• "Transsexuals should cut it out"
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Oh... all of this is because of me? lol [editline]14th January 2013[/editline] Even after I apologized for the way I worded it and said I didn't mean it? Ehhh..
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[QUOTE=thelurker1234;39214983]Oh get your surgery and then put a tampon in. fuck 5 pages, knew this would turn into a debate. Edit: Circlejerk I mean[/QUOTE] You're the stereotype that makes people hate mlp fans.
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;39215494]Can you guys please stop arguing about semantics already Who fucking cares if some dude said a transgender or just transgender or whatever the fuck else, if he's not trying to insult anyone there is no point in arguing about all this shit.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]But they'd rather argue over semantics[/QUOTE] Exactly, the last thing we want to do is prove anything this bigot said
Julie Burchill should 'cut it out' and by it i mean her head she should cut off her fucking putrid head
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;39215494]Can you guys please stop arguing about semantics already Who fucking cares if some dude said a transgender or just transgender or whatever the fuck else, if he's not trying to insult anyone there is no point in arguing about all this shit.[/QUOTE] It really annoys me when people take offense to something that clearly isn't designed to be offensive. Life's too short.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the article (crudely) attacking specifically the vocal minority that got upset over an offhand comment in another article, not all transsexuals?
[QUOTE=catbarf;39217397]Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the article (crudely) attacking specifically the vocal minority that got upset over an offhand comment in another article, not all transsexuals?[/QUOTE] Doesn't matter, it's gone now.
[QUOTE=NeoDement;39217128]It really annoys me when people take offense to something that clearly isn't designed to be offensive. Life's too short.[/QUOTE] what do you mean [I]too short[/I] are you trying to demean short people????!!!!
[QUOTE=kanesenpai~;39217479]what do you mean [I]too short[/I] are you trying to demean short people????!!!![/QUOTE] You can subtly imply that transgender people overreact over small things a lot but we have every right to be angry. We're oppressed as shit.
[QUOTE=kanesenpai~;39217479]what do you mean [I]too short[/I] are you trying to demean short people????!!!![/QUOTE] [IMG]http://media.offbeatempire.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2012/05/social-justice-league.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=T-Sonar.0;39217496]You can subtly imply that transgender people overreact over small things a lot but we have every right to be angry. We're oppressed as shit.[/QUOTE] I'm making a stupid joke from what NeoDement said, and from some of the posts in this thread why do you always assume that I'm trying to put down an entire demographic of people
[QUOTE=kanesenpai~;39217520]I'm making a stupid joke from what NeoDement said, and from some of the posts in this thread why do you always assume that I'm trying to put down an entire demographic of people[/QUOTE] Because you're always an asshole in these threads.
How the christ did this get published in the guardian of all places?
[QUOTE=Skelmech;39217621]Because you're always an asshole in these threads.[/QUOTE] for what posting stupid shrek pictures???
[QUOTE=kanesenpai~;39217661]for what posting stupid shrek pictures???[/QUOTE] no, you make stupid jokes that come at the expense of others
[QUOTE=kanesenpai~;39217661]for what posting stupid shrek pictures???[/QUOTE] Clearly you haven't shrek'd your privilege
[QUOTE=Ownederd;39217674]no, you make stupid jokes that come at the expense of others[/QUOTE] At the expense of the hardcore "die cis scum" tumblr people that are most likely a minority among transgenders? But of course, someone's gonna go and skew this as I'm some sort of Genghis Khan mongering war against all LGBT people and shower me in a mass of boxes that will blot out the sky.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;39217677]Clearly you haven't shrek'd your privilege[/QUOTE] Don't worry, the jokes will be ogre soon enough.
[QUOTE=Skelmech;39215151]you serious this is relatively good for a trans thread on fp.[/QUOTE] Probably because only like 10 people in this thread have any idea if the article agrees with them or not. [editline]14th January 2013[/editline] seriously it's confusing as high fuck
[QUOTE=Simski;39214653]I guess I've also got some social stigma about me for my verbal battles with sanius' crew and like the case with LGBT argument thread, having an unpopular opinion due to logic before emotion. They really do have a terrible tendency of putting a lot of focus on demonizing and mocking their opposition often with exaggerated claims and re-interpretations of arguments rather than focus on actually trying to teach someone how and why their opinion is wrong though, which is really my biggest reason for sometimes flipping the fuck out when trying to reason with them.[/QUOTE] that's because it's often really difficult/pointless trying to teach an ignorant asshole how to not be an ignorant asshole. read any thread relating to transgender issues recently and marvel at the stupidity and bigotry of some people, and you'll see why they mock them.
The author is entitled to their opinion. I honestly can't make any sense of it. This obsession with trying to stifle "hate speech" is rather scary to me. If the purpose is not to incite violence then I see no reason to wish ill upon the writer. There are radical transgender women out there that do tarnish the image of the majority. It happens with every group of people. If the tone of the article is meant to be hateful then it just seems like a radical calling out other radicals, hardly an important issue to dicsuss or react with such vigor. Agruing over interpretation of sentence structure will get us nowhere and may lead to wrong conclusions.
[QUOTE=SgtCr4zyGunz;39219018]that's because it's often really difficult/pointless trying to teach an ignorant asshole how to not be an ignorant asshole. read any thread relating to transgender issues recently and marvel at the stupidity and bigotry of some people, and you'll see why they mock them.[/QUOTE] Then they should learn to distinguish those that can be reasoned with and those who can not, lest they end up as nothing more than people that can not be reasoned with themselves. If they just travel around calling people idiots, people will just think of them as idiots traveling around calling people idiots. [editline]15th January 2013[/editline] I won't ever feel that something that makes sense to me is wrong simply because some jackass says that if I don't agree with them then I'm an idiot. I want a good explanation why I shouldn't think I'm right, and why I shouldn't think they're the idiots.
[QUOTE=futahorse;39220657]The author is entitled to their opinion. I honestly can't make any sense of it. This obsession with trying to stifle "hate speech" is rather scary to me. If the purpose is not to incite violence then I see no reason to wish ill upon the writer. There are radical transgender women out there that do tarnish the image of the majority. It happens with every group of people. If the tone of the article is meant to be hateful then it just seems like a radical calling out other radicals, hardly an important issue to dicsuss or react with such vigor. Agruing over interpretation of sentence structure will get us nowhere and may lead to wrong conclusions.[/QUOTE] We know that in every group there are radical individuals, but they don't usually get to post their bigoted opinions on the website of a national newspaper.
Going to bed now though, think of me when you touch your naughty bits :3
[QUOTE=Simski;39221119]Then they should learn to distinguish those that can be reasoned with and those who can not, lest they end up as nothing more than people that can not be reasoned with themselves. If they just travel around calling people idiots, people will just think of them as idiots traveling around calling people idiots. [editline]15th January 2013[/editline] I won't ever feel that something that makes sense to me is wrong simply because some jackass says that if I don't agree with them then I'm an idiot. I want a good explanation why I shouldn't think I'm right, and why I shouldn't think they're the idiots.[/QUOTE] There are some good people out there that simply seek to spread awareness of issues and educate people who do a good job of it. Unfortunately there seem to be just as many who just spew out hate and imply that you're an asshole without actually trying to explain what you might have said/done wrong.
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;39215494]Can you guys please stop arguing about semantics already Who fucking cares if some dude said a transgender or just transgender or whatever the fuck else, if he's not trying to insult anyone there is no point in arguing about all this shit.[/QUOTE] well maybe you don't care, but perhaps other people do. and keeping that in mind, wouldn't it be awfully thoughtful of you to refer to other people as they'd like to be referred to? it's not like adding "person" into "transsexual person" is going to kill you. i know it's sounds like dismissive kindergarten stuff, but goodness i imagine we'd all be happier if we just treated others as we'd like to be treated.
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;39214171]"He's a homosexual" - yeah, there's a different vibe, but I'd definitely say that you're going out on limb claiming someone is not supporting a group because of the way something's worded. I just noticed that he actually responded to you, and it seems like we agree. Let's just keep it at that note.[/QUOTE] Yeah he explained it, then we were cool about it You have to keep in mind we're teetering at about 50-70% acceptance of homosexuality overall according to polls, even less for transgender and transsexual people. It's not unreasonable to assume that someone is being purposely mean when you notice little language cues that indicate as such
[QUOTE=Simski;39214653]I guess I've also got some social stigma about me for my verbal battles with sanius' crew and like the case with LGBT argument thread, having an unpopular opinion due to logic before emotion. They really do have a terrible tendency of putting a lot of focus on demonizing and mocking their opposition often with exaggerated claims and re-interpretations of arguments rather than focus on actually trying to teach someone how and why their opinion is wrong though, which is really my biggest reason for sometimes flipping the fuck out when trying to reason with them.[/QUOTE] lmao "my verbal battles with 'sanius crew'" get over yourself seriously we mock the "opposition" because the "opposition" is hilarious and we shake our chubby cheeks with delight every time the "opposition" makes a post any social stigma you've attained is your own damn fault, not anyone else's
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