DIY human cyborg biohacks his own body with circadia implant (without anesthetic)
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[QUOTE=Richardroth;42734205]Fuck the no anesthetics shit. I cringe at the thought of stubbing my toe on a chair leg, but getting your arm slit open and a big ugly box put in just makes me want to puke.[/QUOTE]
Keep in mind that nerves aren't equally distributed throughout the body. Fingers and toes have a ridiculous number of nerve endings, while the arm is relatively low.
Also, there are ways of dealing with pain.
[QUOTE=Sableye;42730118]this is exactly why NASA spends millions on developing biometric measuring devices, so they can tell everything about you and not have to cut you fucking apart. this guy is stupid, the data he is collecting can be gained by simple biometric monitors on your person, or at the very lease, small flat sensors that connect with the main cpu outside the body. imagine if he updates that thing and screws up the code and the CPU gets hot running along there, hell my phone gets hot just leaving it on charge[/QUOTE]
the circadia implant is just a proof of concept that something this large can actually be implanted and work - it's not really meant to have any use apart from showing that yes you can implant pretty large objects with a working circuit board and a reliable-ish power supply without dying
[editline]2nd November 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=ironman17;42733212]True that; even though a DIY implant/augmentation sounds kinda cool, it seems like an awful lot of space just for taking one's temperature. I'd expect that kind of functionality being governed by an implant the size of a grape at the outmost.
Personally, I think a more practical augment in this world of "indie wetware" would be something like a wrist-torch; we already have tiny civilian lights that work via LEDs, so a wrist-torch implant would in theory only be the size of a grape, and would probably fit well inside one's wrist, assuming it's more articulate and flexible than a stonking great block of plastic and electronics.
I think that for this next generation of augmentations, that charging would be performed through conduction patches on the skin, since conducting the energy through the skin to the subdermal charge-point probably wouldn't do much good for the skin. It'd probably be better than having sockets implanted where you insert the appropriate plug, since you gotta keep those things away from moisture, although maybe waterproof cap-plugs could keep moisture out when you're not plugged in to the charger or transferring data to an internal databank.
Another thing I'm a little concerned about is if his body's going to end up rejecting the implant, since it's a foreign object.[/QUOTE]
transdermal implants are possible but v hard to do in a semi-amateur setting without it being a ticking timebomb of infection and biofouling, for the forseeable inductive charging is the way to go
[QUOTE=Psychokitten;42734303]Keep in mind that nerves aren't equally distributed throughout the body. Fingers and toes have a ridiculous number of nerve endings, while the arm is relatively low.
Also, there are ways of dealing with pain.[/QUOTE]
Like swearing, or crying like a bitch
Wouldn't it have been better to put it in his lower chest or someshit? core temp would be more valuable and you don't have a fucking rectangle sticking out of your arm.
[QUOTE=Eltro102;42734326]the circadia implant is just a proof of concept that something this large can actually be implanted and work - it's not really meant to have any use apart from showing that yes you can implant pretty large objects with a working circuit board and a reliable-ish power supply without dying[/QUOTE]
We've had pacemakers for years. That's an electronic device implanted in your heart. We don't need wannabes sticking nigh-useless circuit boards in their limbs to prove what we already know.
[QUOTE=catbarf;42734542]We've had pacemakers for years. That's an electronic device implanted in your heart. We don't need wannabes sticking nigh-useless circuit boards in their limbs to prove what we already know.[/QUOTE]
what we know is that a professionally produced lab-grade industrially sealed device with very, very small power requirements and a simple and basic function can be implanted by a team of highly trained surgeons in a hospital environment
How much of the human body can you actually replace in total?
Say if you gradually changed parts of it here and there (whilst retaining functionality), how much could one replace?
[QUOTE=Eltro102;42734587]what we know is that a professionally produced lab-grade industrially sealed device with very, very small power requirements and a simple and basic function can be implanted by a team of highly trained surgeons in a hospital environment[/QUOTE]
So... we have a pressing need to discover whether or not a bunch of amateurs can cut themselves open, ram smartphones in, sew it up, and not die immediately of sepsis? That's useful research?
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;42734762]How much of the human body can you actually replace in total?
Say if you gradually changed parts of it here and there (whilst retaining functionality), how much could one replace?[/QUOTE]
I suppose that really depends on what you consider functionality to be.
I mean, if you were to keep them bedridden, we have devices that can replace the heart during surgery, ventilators and such that replace the lungs, dialysis to replace the kidneys and so on, you could remove a lot of things if they were willing to be hooked up to machines, with all of the risks that that entails.
[QUOTE=catbarf;42734793]So... we have a pressing need to discover whether or not a bunch of amateurs can cut themselves open, ram smartphones in, sew it up, and not die immediately of sepsis? That's useful research?[/QUOTE]
yes
[QUOTE=Empty_Shadow;42726601]That actually sounds really cool.[/QUOTE]
being able to sense magnetic fields and alternating currents sounds neat, though they need to have some way to stop the magnet from flipping in your skin (both over time and quickly when they rotate poles)
maybe a halbach array magnet would work better
either way, seems very silly.
also, [B]absolutely not for the squeamish[/B] (contains loadsa blood and such) [URL="http://vimeo.com/23836862"]http://vimeo.com/23836862[/URL] someone.. uh.. implanting one of these fingertip magnets
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;42734762]How much of the human body can you actually replace in total?
Say if you gradually changed parts of it here and there (whilst retaining functionality), how much could one replace?[/QUOTE]
Not a lot, prosthetic limbs, some joints, major blood vessels, the heart and the kidneys is about all we can do, and the last two require a lot of machinery and supervision.
[QUOTE=Em See;42734931]being able to sense magnetic fields and alternating currents sounds neat, though they need to have some way to stop the magnet from flipping in your skin (both over time and quickly when they rotate poles)
maybe a halbach array magnet would work better
either way, seems very silly.
also, [B]absolutely not for the squeamish[/B] (contains loadsa blood and such) [URL="http://vimeo.com/23836862"]http://vimeo.com/23836862[/URL] someone.. uh.. implanting one of these fingertip magnets[/QUOTE]
i know a bunch of people who have them implanted, when the magnet flips (e.g. in a powerful field) it's not so much painful as weird and uncomfortable for a second or two
That's kind of awesome.
so how often does he have to take neuropozyne?
[sp]how has someone not made a deus ex joke yet?[/sp]
In all seriousness, I think this is pretty cool, although it is a very "i built it in my shed" kind of device. Although it looks ugly, and will cause problems, I think it's an interesting proof of concept. I'd quite happily test a device like this further down the line, when it's a little more refined, and I can be under anesthetic for it.
Also, having little magnets in the tips of your finger/s doesn't seem like such a bad idea, until you think about the potential infections, and ruining p much any piece of tech you touch.
[QUOTE=absolalone111;42735991]so ho often does he have to take neuropozyne?
[sp]how has someone not made a deus ex joke yet?[/sp]
In all seriousness, I think this is pretty cool, although it is a very "i built it in my shed" kind of device. Although it looks ugly, and will cause problems, I think it's an interesting proof of concept. I'd quite happily test a device like this further down the line, when it's a little more refined, and I can be under anesthetic for it.
Also, having little magnets in the tips of your finger/s doesn't seem like such a bad idea, until you think about the potential infections, and ruining p much any piece of tech you touch.[/QUOTE]
the magnets are parylene c coated (for bioproofing) with an extra dental resin coat (to stop the bioproof coating from scratching away when you try to insert it) so they're very bio-safe
the fields they make are tiny, unlikely to have any effect on tech and not nearly strong enough to wipe your credit card/ break your hardrive
i have seen someone do some cool tricks with a crt though, messing with the coaxial input
[QUOTE=absolalone111;42735991]so how often does he have to take neuropozyne?
[sp]how has someone not made a deus ex joke yet?[/sp]
In all seriousness, I think this is pretty cool, although it is a very "i built it in my shed" kind of device. Although it looks ugly, and will cause problems, I think it's an interesting proof of concept. I'd quite happily test a device like this further down the line, when it's a little more refined, and I can be under anesthetic for it.
Also, having little magnets in the tips of your finger/s doesn't seem like such a bad idea, until you think about the potential infections, and ruining p much any piece of tech you touch.[/QUOTE]
not to condone cutting open you fingertips to insert magnets into them, but only a select few types of electronics are actually adversely effected by magnets - unless you routinely still use floppy disks or something
its a tiiiiiny magnet, to even bother a HDD you'd need something much larger, the same applies to credit cards
[QUOTE=SwizzChees;42724520][video=youtube;clIiP1H3Opw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clIiP1H3Opw[/video]
crazy guy[/QUOTE]
look at the fucking skin around it it's all bruised and gross
further proof that transhumanists are the brilliant minds that will lead us into the future
[QUOTE=Eltro102;42734587]what we know is that a professionally produced lab-grade industrially sealed device with very, very small power requirements and a simple and basic function can be implanted by a team of highly trained surgeons in a hospital environment[/QUOTE]
pacemakers are outpatient procedures these days, my neighbor a few years ago had one put in and he was out in a day, probably just one doctor and a couple of trained technicians. its really not as hard as you think, it just has to rest ontop of the heart muscle and they are small enough to be just slipped right into the chest and secured
I want a magnet in my finger now. I know the fields are weak but could you pick up a paperclip with it?
[QUOTE=Leestons;42740279]I want a magnet in my finger now. I know the fields are weak but could you pick up a paperclip with it?[/QUOTE]
ye, but you'd usually want it in deeper to get better sensations from other fields
Eww
What a fucking dumbass.
wow so badass and cool i wish i could have a pointless block under my skin
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