• Former Polish President Wants Union with Germany
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[QUOTE=Azaz3l;42305992]It was taken in the context of World War not SU directly invading it. War victors always take up few territories from their defeated enemies.[/QUOTE] It was unjustified occupation just how Germany unjustly occupied Poland, it does not matter if it was taken through the spoils of war. A piece of paper does not automatically make it legitimate.
[QUOTE=Azaz3l;42305992]It was taken in the context of World War not SU directly invading it. War victors always take up few territories from their defeated enemies.[/QUOTE] What the Soviet Union did in Eastern Europe after ww2 was completely unacceptable.
[QUOTE=Azaz3l;42305992]It was taken in the context of World War not SU directly invading it. War victors always take up few territories from their defeated enemies.[/QUOTE] So by force. [QUOTE=Sobotnik;42306038]What the Soviet Union did in Eastern Europe after ww2 was completely unacceptable.[/QUOTE] It could have been worse.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;42306048]So by force. It could have been worse.[/QUOTE] Replacing entire populations, Rape and Pillage, Converting Concentration Camps to Gulags and Imprisioning Political figures. Could've been much worse :v:
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;42306038]What the Soviet Union did in Eastern Europe after ww2 was completely unacceptable.[/QUOTE] Don't start that speech again how Soviet Union was an Evil Empire etc etc
[QUOTE=Azaz3l;42306072]Don't start that speech again how Soviet Union was an Evil Empire etc etc[/QUOTE] Well given that they stamped on the balls of non-Russian slavs and crushed any attempt by the Polish/Ukrainians/Hungarians/etc to declare independence I would say they weren't too keen in letting their puppets go. In fact, I'd strongly argue that the Soviet Union was a parasitic leech upon Eastern Europe.
[QUOTE=Azaz3l;42306072]Don't start that speech again how Soviet Union was an Evil Empire etc etc[/QUOTE]But it was just as bad as Third Reich, and there's no arguing about that.
[QUOTE=Azaz3l;42306072]Don't start that speech again how Soviet Union was an Evil Empire etc etc[/QUOTE] Its hard to deny that they were an empire. The whole evil thing is kind of obvious.
I would enjoy to live in Germland.
I wonder how my Polish ancestors would feel about this. I mean, it would be interesting.
[QUOTE=bdd458;42306453]I wonder how my Polish ancestors would feel about this. I mean, it would be interesting.[/QUOTE] If they werent naive as to think that all German=evil, then maybe they would be all for it. I mean, we had unions in the past. But Lithuanians and Ukrainians seem to really dislike us now.
[QUOTE=BananaMed;42306835]If they werent naive as to think that all German=evil, then maybe they would be all for it. I mean, we had unions in the past. But Lithuanians and Ukrainians seem to really dislike us now.[/QUOTE] Only Hungarians seems to stay with us. Bros 4 lyfe.
[QUOTE=Joz;42306854]Only Hungarians seems to stay with us. Bros 4 lyfe.[/QUOTE] Remember that time when Poland saved Europe from the Turks?
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;42306888]Remember that time when Poland saved Europe from the Turks?[/QUOTE] And remember that time during 18th century when Poland was a prominent power in Europe? Yeah, me neither ;_;
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;42306888]Remember that time when Poland saved Europe from the Turks?[/QUOTE] This motherfucker right here. [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cd/John_III_Sobieski_of_Poland.PNG[/img] Largest Cavalry charge in history with 38,000 men on horseback, 20,000 of them being Polish-Lithuanian. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Vienna[/url]
[QUOTE=Hellduck;42305945]yeah and america should sell it canada so maps look nicer[/QUOTE] On the contrary, Canada ought to sell Canada to America to make the map look better. [editline]25th September 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=gonedead0;42305942]Germany should restore the monarchy and reclaim all its land it lost during WWI.[/QUOTE] Isn't there a small monarchist party in Germany that wants to restore the monarchies, whether they be the old independent kingdoms or the emperorship as a whole? [editline]25th September 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Azaz3l;42305868]It was captured by SU during WW2 and now belongs to Russia. There is no reason why Germany should get it back.[/QUOTE] Right of conquest is really dumb.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;42308673]On the contrary, Canada ought to sell Canada to America to make the map look better. [editline]25th September 2013[/editline] Isn't there a small monarchist party in Germany that wants to restore the monarchies, whether they be the old independent kingdoms or the emperorship as a whole? [editline]25th September 2013[/editline] Right of conquest is really dumb.[/QUOTE] My father claims that Israel has rights to occupied Palestine because of conquest :v:. I can't debate the issue with him since it's just like, what. The one advantage and disadvantage of having a monarch as a head of state is the fact that they can just dismiss idiots or appoint geniuses. Goes both ways.
[QUOTE=bdd458;42306453]I wonder how my Polish ancestors would feel about this. I mean, it would be interesting.[/QUOTE] They would get mad and call Walesa an idiot then swear in long chain of words.
[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;42308721]The one advantage and disadvantage of having a monarch as a head of state is the fact that they can just dismiss idiots or appoint geniuses. Goes both ways.[/QUOTE] European-style monarchies are designed for efficiency in war. American-style democracies are designed for the prevention of tyranny.
[QUOTE=Psychokitten;42308909]European-style monarchies are designed for efficiency in war. American-style democracies are designed for the prevention of tyranny.[/QUOTE] They both failed at their job.
[QUOTE=uzikus;42305738]He actually wants that because we've got shit roads, I'm pretty sure of it.[/QUOTE] I remember this feeling when crossing German border with Poland, the smooth silky roads of Germany and suddenly the message was clear that I made it into my home country because holes in the road used to massage my butt and kept me from falling asleep.
Everyone should give their land to America so maps are easier
Bring back Prussia. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/Eg4RI6d.png[/IMG]
Prussia was such a badass country in the day.
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[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;42309930]Prussia was such a badass country in the day.[/QUOTE] Not to mention asshole-ish. Seriously man. It was like the America of its time.
[QUOTE=Psychokitten;42310138]Not to mention asshole-ish. Seriously man. It was like the America of its time.[/QUOTE] Eh. Eh. It depends. Are we talking early Brandenburg-Prussia, or Fred the Great Prussia, or Napoleonic , or late kingdom-NGF-Empire prussia under Bismarck? Since early and Frederick the Great Prussia were pretty cool and held out against impossible odds just to survive and managed to prosper out of a combination of military innovation and sheer luck. Like. They were a week from being completely fucked over in the seven years war, when Austria and Russia had fucked up communicating and didn't assault his weak armies before they could reinforce and muster at Berlin. The death of Elizabeth of Russia knocking them out of the war. Seriously lucky country.
Frederick the Great is one of my heroes. He was an amazing man.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;42308673] Right of conquest is really dumb.[/QUOTE] You're right, we should give that land back to Germany even though they don't want it. While we're at it, why don't we return Anatolia to the Greeks? And Iberia to the Muslims.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;42310291]Frederick the Great is one of my heroes. He was an amazing man.[/QUOTE] Wasn't there also one referred to behind his back as "the Loopy"? Or is that the same guy?
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