• Hatsune Miku - The worlds holographic singer
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seeing that many nerds gather for that stupid shit makes me feel like less of a jobless loser
[QUOTE=ducky5;28534185] In other news. Miku appearance at Shangai concert. Miku is actually wayy bigger then you think. There planing US vocaloid stores. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnIIhygyNs8&feature=player_embedded[/media] [b]All of you rating clocks this happened yesterday : /[/b][/QUOTE] Isn't that the song that was in the background for Ultimate Muscle Roller Legend? [editline]11th March 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=J!NX;28536611]Augh, weeaboo BS.[/QUOTE] ... what? How? [editline]11th March 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=yuki;28534942]What the flying fuck is wrong with people? Who the hell goes to a concert to watch a giant screen of a fictitious person perform pre-recorded and uninspired garbage? There's no artistry or allure, there's no performance, no excersize of talent and exhibition of practice and hard work, it's pre-rendered. It's fine for a youtube video but what the fuck, people attend "concerts" for this shit? What the hell? I'm [i]dying inside[/i] watching this. I didn't think the world could get any better at destroying everything good about music after Bieber and Boy Bands and BOTDF and Brokencyde, but I was just wrong, so wrong. I think I'm going to go cry.[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.tokyohive.com/2011/02/performances-from-anisama-in-shanghai-on-february-19th/[/url] :downs: You sure do know what you're talking about
I don't really get why they'd do cheap on-screen versions, the real cool tech is the dual polarized projectors acting on a glass screen in the middle of the stage [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTXO7KGHtjI&feature=player_embedded[/media] the technology here is almost frightening, to have a full non-entity give a live performance on a stage with a band is just astounding, nomatter if she's anime styled. when these get AI, even so simple as a chatbot, it will just be plain awesome.
[QUOTE=Kuro.;28538179]Sharon Apple anyone?[/QUOTE] It was bound to happen.
I like it
Oh by the way [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgSNldczQG4[/media]
[media]http://gon.cdn.on.net/screenshots/a/0/7543/2010-08-25/iw4.jpg[/media] [B]SOON[/B]
They really should turn the anti-aliasing up.
So this is still purely computer generated voice? They got really good at that.
I may be an utter fool saying this but I didn't see anything particularly special about the video in the OP. I know 3d effects do not translate through videos but I really cannot discern anything special about this. I mean you can tell that this is a hologram. [QUOTE=daijitsu;28541735] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTXO7KGHtjI&feature=player_embedded[/media] [/QUOTE] But the ones posted in the OP don't look in any way special, unless it's based on having a sort of tube of layered images.
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;28548380]So this is still purely computer generated voice? They got really good at that.[/QUOTE] It's not strictly synthesis, they use samples of real singers to do it. It's basically a complex form of granular synthesis, small samples of real vocalists are stitched together to reform new words/phrases/etc. Think what Ebert had done after his throat went out, except to greater detail than that. [QUOTE=ExplodingGuy;28535544]It's bound to grow, not only does the Vocaloid act as a replacement for a singer, it allow people who don't have the voice, or looks to become hit songwriters. [/QUOTE] Grow how? It has no use outside of Japan. Here we have a glut of autotune-type programs that can, more convincingly, allow people to sing tolerably or give them robovoices. It's easier and cheaper for new artists. And even studios have no application for this at present- Vocaloid is actually a huge pain in the ass to work with compared to generic vocalist sample banks and synths for sketching and most places have dirt cheap session vocalists on hand if they can't scrounge up anything better. Other companies make similar stuff for things like choirs, but that's about as far as the rest of the world likes the tech. I don't mean to disparage the Vocaloids but they're not really destined for much beyond popularity over there, and that's only because they have a fairly large fanbase among nerds and got their own little subgenre in the idol-centric world of Jpop. Everywhere else the software is just a toy. At least, that's how I see it, maybe it would pick up in the US and EU if there were non-japanese models that didn't suck and weren't horribly behind the japanese ones, but at the same time, I think if Yamaha thought it had a hope anywhere other than it's current niche they'd work on some english models that weren't terrible.
"The worlds holographic singer" sounds as if it's the only one of it's kind.
[QUOTE=TurbisV2;28549560]"The worlds holographic singer" sounds as if it's the only one of it's kind.[/QUOTE] I think he meant to say "world's first" Whether such a statement is true or not, I don't know.
[QUOTE=daijitsu;28541735]I don't really get why they'd do cheap on-screen versions, the real cool tech is the dual polarized projectors acting on a glass screen in the middle of the stage [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTXO7KGHtjI&feature=player_embedded[/media] the technology here is almost frightening, to have a full non-entity give a live performance on a stage with a band is just astounding, nomatter if she's anime styled. when these get AI, even so simple as a chatbot, it will just be plain awesome.[/QUOTE] I have never raged at youtube comments before watching this video.
Didn't the Gorillaz already do this? Why is it such a big deal?
After watching that concert, I feel more like blowing by brains out and screaming "GET A FUCKING LIFE".
I brought this question up before in a much older Hatsune Miku thread. What other practical use could we have for holograms? Having a concert showing a holographic computer generated singer is probably one of the most [i]practical[/i] ways to show off the technology to the public. Sure, it may not be the best or coolest way to show off holograms, but it works in the way that it's not put out in the real world where people could easily mess with the hologram and potentially break it. The Hatsune Miku concert is set in a controlled environments where things can be easily looked after. Where as if you put that stuff out in the real world, then you would have to account for weather conditions and anything else mother nature might cause. As well as human interaction with said hologram(s). What I'm trying to say is, I don't think we're ready to put holograms out on the streets yet, but we wanted to show off what we have now to the public, and that the best way to do this was to have a concert.
[QUOTE=slayer20;28556770]I brought this question up before in a much older Hatsune Miku thread. What other practical use could we have for holograms? Having a concert showing a holographic computer generated singer is probably one of the most [i]practical[/i] ways to show off the technology to the public. Sure, it may not be the best or coolest way to show off holograms, but it works in the way that it's not put out in the real world where people could easily mess with the hologram and potentially break it. The Hatsune Miku concert is set in a controlled environments where things can be easily looked after. Where as if you put that stuff out in the real world, then you would have to account for weather conditions and anything else mother nature might cause. As well as human interaction with said hologram(s). What I'm trying to say is, I don't think we're ready to put holograms out on the streets yet, but we wanted to show off what we have now to the public, and that the best way to do this was to have a concert.[/QUOTE] I can imagine this stuff can be released to the public in about 6 more years possibly, by that time we have Virtual Reality Tech under the making.
I can't believe they're showing this animation to people and didn't even fix the clipping issues on the skirt
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTXO7KGHtjI[/media] Agreeing with Perfumly's post, I would also like to point out her hair in this video. I don't like how it acts like water.
Yeh, the whole concert is ripe with clipping in costume bits but damn if it isn't still awesome. Also, practical application is going to be 95% entertainment. I await it all being ruined by Disney whoring it out.
Saw recording of the concert. I swear that concert was so bad it could cause a tsunami or something.
So why aren't we using this technology for teleconferencing yet? I'm sure you can hook a modded Kinect to it to make it work.
[url]http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2011/0228/travel-teleconferencing-polycom-john-medina-being-there.html[/url] Tl:dr shit's expensive, people still tend to favor meeting in person even if they can afford it. The "there-but-not" gimmick isn't holding up too well.
[QUOTE=slayer20;28556770]I brought this question up before in a much older Hatsune Miku thread. What other practical use could we have for holograms? Having a concert showing a holographic computer generated singer is probably one of the most [i]practical[/i] ways to show off the technology to the public. Sure, it may not be the best or coolest way to show off holograms, but it works in the way that it's not put out in the real world where people could easily mess with the hologram and potentially break it. The Hatsune Miku concert is set in a controlled environments where things can be easily looked after. Where as if you put that stuff out in the real world, then you would have to account for weather conditions and anything else mother nature might cause. As well as human interaction with said hologram(s). What I'm trying to say is, I don't think we're ready to put holograms out on the streets yet, but we wanted to show off what we have now to the public, and that the best way to do this was to have a concert.[/QUOTE] Again, it's not a hologram. It's just projected video on a transparent screen. It's not like her image is actually hanging there in thin air; there's a huge solid pane of glass going across that part of the stage. So the practical applications of this technology have been realized for...quite a while now. Most of my teachers in college have projectors in their classrooms. You're severely overestimating what's actually going on in that concert.
[QUOTE=Shugo;28558908]Again, it's not a hologram. It's just projected video on a transparent screen. It's not like her image is actually hanging there in thin air; there's a huge solid pane of glass going across that part of the stage. So the practical applications of this technology have been realized for...quite a while now. Most of my teachers in college have projectors in their classrooms. You're severely overestimating what's actually going on in that concert.[/QUOTE] it's dual polarized projection, basically what you see in 3D movies these days. Everyone in the audience wears those big 3D glasses to watch. Polarized [or restrictive perspective] stereoscopic vision is the only working form of holography right now, and presenting it as an object in 3d space on a stage rather than against a wall on a traditional projection screen is one of the more innovative methods of getting towards true holography.
[QUOTE=daijitsu;28559266]it's dual polarized projection, basically what you see in 3D movies these days. Everyone in the audience wears those big 3D glasses to watch. Polarized [or restrictive perspective] stereoscopic vision is the only working form of holography right now, and presenting it as an object in 3d space on a stage rather than against a wall on a traditional projection screen is one of the more innovative methods of getting towards true holography.[/QUOTE] This. The technology is being presented in a nerdy form that you may or may not like, but that doesn't change the fact that they're using cutting edge stuff. We'll be seeing a lot more of this in the future, and most people won't even remember the original venues of entertainment that it came from.
Instead of using holograms for a good purpose, they use it for kawaii desu~ shit [editline]12th March 2011[/editline] [img]http://gyazo.com/6266243894682d6463503ea84c03be6f.png[/img] holy christ
60% of the thread is "hurr durr weaboos", "this is the stupid shit I see all the time" and "we could do so much with this yet it's being wasted on aneemaay sheet" Never change, Facepunch
[QUOTE=reywilnc;28563562]Instead of using holograms for a good purpose, they use it for kawaii desu~ shit holy christ[/QUOTE] I bet you would be ok with it if they showed kawaii kittens instead of kawaii 3d models
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