• Hatsune Miku - The worlds holographic singer
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[QUOTE=Xenocidebot;28549531]It's not strictly synthesis, they use samples of real singers to do it. It's basically a complex form of granular synthesis, small samples of real vocalists are stitched together to reform new words/phrases/etc. Think what Ebert had done after his throat went out, except to greater detail than that. Grow how? It has no use outside of Japan. Here we have a glut of autotune-type programs that can, more convincingly, allow people to sing tolerably or give them robovoices. It's easier and cheaper for new artists. And even studios have no application for this at present- Vocaloid is actually a huge pain in the ass to work with compared to generic vocalist sample banks and synths for sketching and most places have dirt cheap session vocalists on hand if they can't scrounge up anything better. Other companies make similar stuff for things like choirs, but that's about as far as the rest of the world likes the tech. I don't mean to disparage the Vocaloids but they're not really destined for much beyond popularity over there, and that's only because they have a fairly large fanbase among nerds and got their own little subgenre in the idol-centric world of Jpop. Everywhere else the software is just a toy. At least, that's how I see it, maybe it would pick up in the US and EU if there were non-japanese models that didn't suck and weren't horribly behind the japanese ones, but at the same time, I think if Yamaha thought it had a hope anywhere other than it's current niche they'd work on some english models that weren't terrible.[/QUOTE] Nope, The vocaloid market share is mainly coming from the US, the first vocaloids were American [editline]12th March 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=reywilnc;28563562]Instead of using holograms for a good purpose, they use it for kawaii desu~ shit [editline]12th March 2011[/editline] [img_thumb]http://gyazo.com/6266243894682d6463503ea84c03be6f.png[/img_thumb] holy christ[/QUOTE] do you even know what Kawaii desu means? Cause the way you used it makes no sense, and its their language idiot.
[QUOTE=ducky5;28564718] do you even know what Kawaii desu means? Cause the way you used it makes no sense, and its their language idiot.[/QUOTE] No it's weeaboo shit, obviously :downs:
[QUOTE=darkedone02;28556602]After watching that concert, I feel more like blowing by brains out and screaming "GET A FUCKING LIFE".[/QUOTE] Funny from a guy off the internet [editline]12th March 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=*Freezorg*;28564743]No it's weeaboo shit beside i kie penis :downs:[/QUOTE] it's the Japanese language.....
[QUOTE=darkedone02;28556602]After watching that concert, I feel more like blowing by brains out and screaming "GET A FUCKING LIFE".[/QUOTE] And yet, here you are on Facepunch raging about the tastes of other people Funny, isn't it
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[QUOTE=ducky5;28564718]Nope, The vocaloid market share is mainly coming from the US, the first vocaloids were American[/QUOTE] Citation on the market share claim. The first run being english-speaking doesn't imply it sells well here- I find the idea ridiculous when Japan has a plethora of models available and the software at rev 2.something when we're at 1.1 and stuck with crappy voice banks from 2004.
Facepunch where ignorance is bad and yet it's ok when it's about anime or other stuff japanese.
[QUOTE=johan_sm;28566171]Facepunch where ignorance is bad and yet it's ok when it's about anime or other stuff japanese.[/QUOTE] my thoughts exactly [editline]12th March 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Xenocidebot;28566108]Citation on the market share claim. The first run being english-speaking doesn't imply it sells well here- I find the idea ridiculous when Japan has a plethora of models available and the software at rev 2.something when we're at 1.1 and stuck with crappy voice banks from 2004.[/QUOTE] True, But Lola is a really nice sounding English vocaloid. I have Luka on my computer and her English voice bank is nice but could use some work. She runs on Vocaloid 2
So, uh, what exactly do you guys consider to be a "practical use" for this kind of thing? Because I'm struggling to come up with many others, to be honest.
[QUOTE=BlkDucky;28566305]So, uh, what exactly do you guys consider to be a "practical use" for this kind of thing? Because I'm struggling to come up with many others, to be honest.[/QUOTE] Movies? Tourist attractions? Something in Disney Land? Why not just think its cool to have a 3d image to be projected on a crystal display?
[QUOTE=ducky5;28566425]Movies? Tourist attractions? Something in Disney Land? Why not just think its cool to have a 3d image to be projected on a crystal display?[/QUOTE] Well then Hatsune falls into "practical" too. Because that's as practical as movies or disneyland.
[QUOTE=johan_sm;28566611]Well then Hatsune falls into "practical" too. Because that's as practical as movies or disneyland.[/QUOTE] Your forgetting the Synth engine
In my opinion, something like that doesn't warrant a full concert. But if that's what people like, then that's what they like. [QUOTE=Shugo;28536635][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UiYEgBjoKQ[/media] [/QUOTE] Damn, that music sounds really familiar...
no one here complaining about it will see it as 'practical' until it is porn on their desktop
[QUOTE=yuki;28534942]What the flying fuck is wrong with people? Who the hell goes to a concert to watch a giant screen of a fictitious person perform pre-recorded and uninspired garbage? There's no artistry or allure, there's no performance, no excersize of talent and exhibition of practice and hard work, it's pre-rendered. It's fine for a youtube video but what the fuck, people attend "concerts" for this shit? What the hell? I'm [I]dying inside[/I] watching this. I didn't think the world could get any better at destroying everything good about music after Bieber and Boy Bands and BOTDF and Brokencyde, but I was just wrong, so wrong. I think I'm going to go cry.[/QUOTE] lol look at this kid freaking out over a video on the internet
Am I the only one taking issue that it sucks the synthesized voices suck? Everyone seeems to be to stuck up on the animation quality or the fact its anime style when it really doesn't fucking matter? Its the tech doing all the that.
Do you think she's going to do a concert to raise relief funds? :v:
[QUOTE=MIPS;28569840]Do you think she's going to do a concert to raise relief funds? :v:[/QUOTE] I hope not....
Yamaha said there buildings are fine and are preforming data checks on the some of the new vocaloids.
[QUOTE=ducky5;28571424]Yamaha said there buildings are fine and are preforming data checks on the some of the new vocaloids.[/QUOTE] What, are they fearing in the middle of a concert shit will suddenly go missingno on them?
Witchcraft i tells ya.
[QUOTE=MIPS;28572517]What, are they fearing in the middle of a concert shit will suddenly go missingno on them?[/QUOTE] They were working on several new vocaloid programs
It's funny because the singer behind the character wouldn't be half as successful without the anime backing.
Personally I find vocaloid voices really creepy, so creepy they could give me nightmares. It gives me the same uncomfortable uncanny valley-effect as Auto-Tune, just way creepier.
[QUOTE=Swilly;28569799]Am I the only one taking issue that it sucks the synthesized voices suck? Everyone seeems to be to stuck up on the animation quality or the fact its anime style when it really doesn't fucking matter? Its the tech doing all the that.[/QUOTE] Urgh, it does not suck. it's fucking amazing. Basically it's not even far from real voice, it actually is real voice. Just really short snippets of real voice glued together. [editline]13th March 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Eric95;28572963]Personally I find vocaloid voices really creepy, so creepy they could give me nightmares. It gives me the same uncomfortable uncanny valley-effect as Auto-Tune, just way creepier.[/QUOTE] Uncanny valley applies to visual things.
[QUOTE=Croix;28572974]Urgh, it does not suck. it's fucking amazing. Basically it's not even far from real voice, it actually is real voice. Just really short snippets of real voice glued together. [editline]13th March 2011[/editline] Uncanny valley applies to visual things.[/QUOTE] Still the same principle. Fake voices scare me. Even text-to-speech if it's not as obvious as Microsoft Sam. Personally I think humanoid robots all should look like astronaut suits with no faces or maybe some kind of emoticon-style face. With sci-fi robot voices.
[QUOTE=rampageturke 2;28572693]It's funny because the singer behind the character wouldn't be half as successful without the anime backing.[/QUOTE] The voice is entirely synthesized. This is what makes the character so popular as a singer.
[QUOTE=daijitsu;28573733]The voice is entirely synthesized. This is what makes the character so popular as a singer.[/QUOTE] You're expecting a facepunch user to actually read the thread before posting? Who are you and what did you do to dai.
[QUOTE=Croix;28572974]Urgh, it does not suck. it's fucking amazing. Basically it's not even far from real voice, it actually is real voice. Just really short snippets of real voice glued together. And its not a real voice, I don't consider songs using glued together pieces of TF2 jargon a real voice of a song. I may enjoy them for comedic value but other than that it goes no farther. [/QUOTE] Auto-tune sucks and thats just editting the pitch of a voice. How the hell do you think I'd respond to pitching a glued together voice? :v: [editline]12th March 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Eric95;28573055]Still the same principle. Fake voices scare me. Even text-to-speech if it's not as obvious as Microsoft Sam. Personally I think humanoid robots all should look like astronaut suits with no faces or maybe some kind of emoticon-style face. With sci-fi robot voices.[/QUOTE] That'd actually make them 10 times more awesome.
[QUOTE=daijitsu;28573733]The voice is entirely synthesized. This is what makes the character so popular as a singer.[/QUOTE] it doesn't make it sound any better though :\
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