• Incest and necrophilia 'should be legal' according to youth branch of Swedish Liberal People's Party
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Liberals has a history of pushing this kind agenda (Pedophobia/Incest/Necrophilia) for decades. [video=youtube;VjCAz8fPuQQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjCAz8fPuQQ[/video]
[QUOTE=squids_eye;49886822]I don't think risk to your personal health counts as a human rights violation unless it's being forced on you by someone else. You are well within your rights to eat your own shit or drink alcohol until your liver is shot, why do the health risks involved in sex with a corpse matter when they don't?[/QUOTE] In some places healthcare is tax funded, thus I am paying for your stupidity which is not cool.
[QUOTE=Model 101;49886931]Liberals has a history of pushing this kind agenda (Pedophobia/Incest/Necrophilia) for decades. [video=youtube;VjCAz8fPuQQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjCAz8fPuQQ[/video][/QUOTE] Pedophilia though causes harm to children and children themselves cannot consent under the law. Necrophilia other than the obvious health issues associated with a decaying corpse doesn't exploit people, though I can't really see how anyone would consent to it before dying. Incest is trickier though because yes there is technically no logical argument other than we know it can lead to abnormally high chances of health risks, it's a social taboo alright. I think there probably doesn't need to be a law against it today because no court would ever really persue it anyways in the Western legal systems
I don't care what happens to my corpse after I die. I will be physically incapable of caring by definition. If you want to parade it around or shoot it out of a cannon or do whatever you want with it, be my guest. It's a bunch of carbon atoms in a pile, who cares.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;49885098]Aah yes, tackling the important issues in society, like the right to fuck your dead sister[/QUOTE] Wow you're such an un-progressive bigot
[QUOTE=Da Bomb76;49886996]I don't care what happens to my corpse after I die. I will be physically incapable of caring by definition. If you want to parade it around or [B]shoot it out of a cannon[/B] or do whatever you want with it, be my guest. It's a bunch of carbon atoms in a pile, who cares.[/QUOTE] Actually, that sounds pretty fun. Sign me up.
[QUOTE=rndgenerator;49886941]In some places healthcare is tax funded, thus I am paying for your stupidity which is not cool.[/QUOTE] If cost to the taxpayer is your only concern then you have bigger things to worry about than necrophiles and incestuous relationships.
[QUOTE=squids_eye;49887056]If cost to the taxpayer is your only concern then you have bigger things to worry about than necrophiles and incestuous relationships.[/QUOTE] Like alcohol and smoking, because boy do those cost the taxpayer a lot of money.
[QUOTE=ARTICLE;49884953] Cecilia Johnsson, president of LUF Stockholm, told Aftonbladet counter-incest legislation amounted to “morality law”, adding: “These laws protect no one right now”. [/QUOTE] Laws do not protect people, they protect society. The laws that have been proposed by this organization only fuel for the decay of said society.
[QUOTE=Alice_01;49887080]Laws do not protect people, they protect society. The laws that have been proposed by this organization only fuel for the decay of said society.[/QUOTE] How will some woman taking one last ride on her dead husband cause society to decay?
[QUOTE=squids_eye;49887092]How will some woman taking one last ride on her dead husband cause society to decay?[/QUOTE] you cant ride on a flaccid penis... [sp]please don't make me delve into why this doesn't benefit society, or promote healthy psychology among it. If its not obvious then I really fucked up[/sp]
[QUOTE=Alice_01;49887118]you cant ride on a flaccid penis[/QUOTE] You really think female necrophiliacs won't find a way?
[QUOTE=Da Bomb76;49886996]I don't care what happens to my corpse after I die. I will be physically incapable of caring by definition. If you want to parade it around or shoot it out of a cannon or do whatever you want with it, be my guest. It's a bunch of carbon atoms in a pile, who cares.[/QUOTE] Dear fuck you're a retard. [highlight](User was permabanned for this post ("Alt / Gimmick" - Swebonny))[/highlight]
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;49887124]You really think female necrophiliacs won't find a way?[/QUOTE] Rigor mortis is a strange thing...
[QUOTE=Alice_01;49887118]you cant ride on a flaccid penis... [sp]please don't make me delve into why this doesn't benefit society, or promote healthy psychology among it. If its not obvious then I really fucked up[/sp][/QUOTE] Obviously it isn't beneficial to society as a whole but at the same time, how is it detrimental? Something shouldn't be illegal just because it isn't beneficial, it should be illegal because it is actively detrimental. Being in the grey area shouldn't default it to illegal just because it's also really gross or though some other arbitrary decision. [editline]7th March 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Model 101;49887179]Dear fuck you're a retard.[/QUOTE] He's right though? When you're dead you're dead, you don't have any need for your body anymore. I wouldn't personally let people fuck my corpse because I don't want them wasting any time to get my organs out and into someone else, but if that's a choice someone wants to make, why shouldn't they be allowed to consent to their body being used that way?
God bless Facepunch for having members openly defending incest and necrophilia. I'm not sure if there are genuine beliefs are just stupid "I'm so smart and open-minded" edgelord bullshit, but it is still utterly insane.
[QUOTE=Ziron;49887254]God bless Facepunch for having members openly defending incest and necrophilia. I'm not sure if there are genuine beliefs are just stupid "I'm so smart and open-minded" edgelord bullshit, but it is still utterly insane.[/QUOTE] It's uncomfortable to defend, I'm morally against both but at the same time I'm against morals being used as a basis for law. If someone can come in here and give a solid reason beyond morality or personal health I'd be more than happy to accept it.
[QUOTE=Ziron;49887254]God bless Facepunch for having members openly defending incest and necrophilia. I'm not sure if there are genuine beliefs are just stupid "I'm so smart and open-minded" edgelord bullshit, but it is still utterly insane.[/QUOTE] there's someone that openly defends torture too, don't forget about that defending incest and necrophilia is so pseudo open minded
[QUOTE=squids_eye;49887204]but if that's a choice someone wants to make, why shouldn't they be allowed to consent to their body being used that way?[/QUOTE] ahahahahahaha fuck off you idiot.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;49886777]You'd have to ban dwarfs from ever having sex with anyone so obviously it's difficult to deal with that without infringing on human rights. Incest on the other hand is quite easily bannable while still allowing the person to have sex with other people. Overall there's no reason to legalise it, it'll only cause more harm than good.[/QUOTE] Neither are easily bannable really. An incestuous couple knowing that what they're doing is against the law will just go about their business in secret, as would a dwarf engage in sexual activities covertly if their ability to have sex was impeded. Besides that, that other options exist being the reason why something should be kept illegal isn't really a good argument at all. You could argue a lot of things into illegality by saying "well instead of doing that, you could just do this." Why engage in sodomy, considering the prevalence of HIV among the gay community, when you could just frot for life? Why have sex as a dwarf and risk having a deformed child when you could just masturbate? Why fuck men when you could just fuck women? Why masturbate to facesitting porn when you could just masturbate to the normal stuff? Why smoke dank weed when you could just chug whiskey? The issue is, what is the reason for banning it between consenting adults. The core reason seems to be the idea of the increased risk of harmful genes being homozygous that comes from incestuous coupling. Considering that your average incestuous couple almost assuredly is less likely to produce a child with issues than a couple who are carriers for certain harmful genes (dwarf couples, carriers of the faulty CFTR allele) and that the latter is not restricted from having a child despite the demonstrable risk they are taking with their offspring, it seems odd to me that the former would be banned from merely having sex while the latter are not only allowed to have sex but also have children. As far as I am aware, they're not advocating for incestuous childbearing are they? Just legalisation of incestuous sex. We live in an age of birth control, condoms, IUDs, birth control pills and abortion, among other methods. Even if pregnancy did occur it could be easily resolved, even though the risks are much lower than you probably think, why not ban having children from incest but make incestuous sex legal if you're so worried about the risk of defects? On the issue of necrophilia, I'm not opposed to people being able to donate their body for people to have sex with it strictly speaking, but the logistics of it are too awkward to be realistic. It probably should be legal but as for how it's handled I have no idea how it would work. If I recall correctly, I think this same party was also advocating for other stuff in the thing where this incest and necrophilia shit comes from, such as a "male abortion", i.e the ability for men to give up all parental rights and responsibility of a child up to 16 weeks into a pregnancy, but the talk of incest and necrophilia totally overshadowed the other stuff.
[QUOTE=Ziron;49887254]God bless Facepunch for having members openly defending incest and necrophilia. I'm not sure if there are genuine beliefs are just stupid "I'm so smart and open-minded" edgelord bullshit, but it is still utterly insane.[/QUOTE] God bless facepunch for not reading a thread six pages in and not knowing what the argument is even about. Not one here said they wanted to fuck their dead sister, it's just pointless to make incest illegal and there's better arguments against consenting necrophilia than "ew, it's gross".
[QUOTE=Ziron;49887254]God bless Facepunch for having members openly defending incest and necrophilia. I'm not sure if there are genuine beliefs are just stupid "I'm so smart and open-minded" edgelord bullshit, but it is still utterly insane.[/QUOTE] Honestly, the edgiest belief is that someone should be imprisoned for doing something consensual and / or generally harmless (provided the right conditions are met).
[QUOTE=honestfam;49887392]God bless facepunch for not reading a thread six pages in and not knowing what the argument is even about. Not one here said they wanted to fuck their dead sister, it's just pointless to make incest illegal and there's better arguments against consenting necrophilia than "ew, it's gross".[/QUOTE] That's still defending necrophilia and incest you nitwit.
Reminds me of that image with the staircases and Necorphilia being legal was one of them :V
I'm glad to see FP proving the quote "I believe in an open mind, but not so open that your brains fall out." is true.
[QUOTE=J!NX;49886874]am I missing something or were people actually comparing homosexuality with incest in this thread? is this thread satire :v:[/QUOTE] It's full of stupidity. Someone else compared the restrictions to being borderline-Fascism. There's no compelling argument why this shit should be legal, and thankfully for Sweden, the LPP are [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberals_%28Sweden%29]hilariously insignificant[/url] and won't get anywhere with this.
[QUOTE=Riutet;49887360]Neither are easily bannable really. An incestuous couple knowing that what they're doing is against the law will just go about their business in secret, as would a dwarf engage in sexual activities covertly if their ability to have sex was impeded. Besides that, that other options exist being the reason why something should be kept illegal isn't really a good argument at all. You could argue a lot of things into illegality by saying "well instead of doing that, you could just do this." Why engage in sodomy, considering the prevalence of HIV among the gay community, when you could just frot for life? Why have sex as a dwarf and risk having a deformed child when you could just masturbate? Why fuck men when you could just fuck women? Why masturbate to facesitting porn when you could just masturbate to the normal stuff? Why smoke dank weed when you could just chug whiskey? The issue is, what is the reason for banning it between consenting adults. The core reason seems to be the idea of the increased risk of harmful genes being homozygous that comes from incestuous coupling. Considering that your average incestuous couple almost assuredly is less likely to produce a child with issues than a couple who are carriers for certain harmful genes (dwarf couples, carriers of the faulty CFTR allele) and that the latter is not restricted from having a child despite the demonstrable risk they are taking with their offspring, it seems odd to me that the former would be banned from merely having sex while the latter are not only allowed to have sex but also have children. As far as I am aware, they're not advocating for incestuous childbearing are they? Just legalisation of incestuous sex. We live in an age of birth control, condoms, IUDs, birth control pills and abortion, among other methods. Even if pregnancy did occur it could be easily resolved, even though the risks are much lower than you probably think, why not ban having children from incest but make incestuous sex legal if you're so worried about the risk of defects? On the issue of necrophilia, I'm not opposed to people being able to donate their body for people to have sex with it strictly speaking, but the logistics of it are too awkward to be realistic. It probably should be legal but as for how it's handled I have no idea how it would work. If I recall correctly, I think this same party was also advocating for other stuff in the thing where this incest and necrophilia shit comes from, such as a "male abortion", i.e the ability for men to give up all parental rights and responsibility of a child up to 16 weeks into a pregnancy, but the talk of incest and necrophilia totally overshadowed the other stuff.[/QUOTE] Dwarfs and other people with genetic problems is a grey area. It's mostly not bannable because you can't really ban it without putting in some naziesque policies so it's not really doable. Incest can be banned without any great infringement upon peoples lives and overall is a net positive for society at large, as you don't end up with as many fucked up children without massive human rights infringement and since it's already in place it might as well stay there. I still think it's rather irresponsible to have kids when you know you have a disease that could seriously leave them in a terrible condition, but again there isn't much you can do without genetically screening every single person so we tend to leave it. Siblings on the other hand is something easily pointed out and dealt with. Yes you probably won't stop all of them, but it being illegal will make people think twice and also keep it as a taboo. There's just no real positives to allowing incest, it's just a complete net negative overall to unban it.
[QUOTE=Govna;49887464]It's full of stupidity. Someone else compared the restrictions to being borderline-Fascism. There's no compelling argument why this shit should be legal, and thankfully for Sweden, the LPP are [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberals_%28Sweden%29]hilariously insignificant[/url] and won't get anywhere with this.[/QUOTE] how can anyone compare it to fascism :v: oh my god what, I had to double take that I'm very glad necrophilia has a huge negative response because fuck that :v:
[QUOTE=Ziron;49887254]God bless Facepunch for having members openly defending incest and necrophilia. I'm not sure if there are genuine beliefs are just stupid "I'm so smart and open-minded" edgelord bullshit, but it is still utterly insane.[/QUOTE] They're no different than Reddit if you ask me.
[QUOTE=Ziron;49887401]That's still defending necrophilia and incest you nitwit.[/QUOTE] If you actually went back and read the thread you'd understand how it's not. There's logical and practical reasons for thinking it shouldn't be illegal besides the desire to fuck your dead sister, mostly because people wouldn't fuck their sisters any more than they already do if it was legal to do so.
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