• German trans girl ‘to be institutionalised’
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[QUOTE=ChilColdCoolaid;34503183]What makes a female a female? Before you say the ability to reproduce as a female keep in mind that not all women are capable of that. It would imply that a woman who becomes barren is no longer a woman.[/QUOTE] In my view, your physical gender is the sex you were born as. You can however, identify as whatever you like.
[QUOTE=Bawbag;34503149]Yes, but to what level are they that gender? For example, they were physically born male, identified as a female, and had a sex change operation. Are they female in all aspects? Or simply a transgendered male who identifies as female?[/QUOTE] For all intents and purposes that person is female. They identify as one and their sexual organs are lined up the same in all but reproductive function. In the strictest biological sense, they're an infertile female.
[QUOTE=somescripter;34503205]They will never be a female unless they: have legitimate breasts (that can milk), have a vagina, have periods, and can have children. [i]Never.[/i][/QUOTE] even if that may be factually true, do you really need to state that? What do you gain from informing them that they will never be what the feel they should be? It just seems spiteful to me
[QUOTE=somescripter;34503205]They will never be a female unless they: have legitimate breasts (that can milk), have a vagina, have periods, and can have children. [i]Never.[/i][/QUOTE] heh what about people on birth control who can't have children or periods?
[QUOTE=Miskav;34482639]It makes him scum, It makes him trash, it makes him a subhuman piece of shit that needs to be purged. I have had it with people like him, forcing others in to depression, suicide, suffering all because of their own goddamn ignorance.[/QUOTE] You're the epitome of hypocrisy if you truly believe such awful thoughts you nut.
[QUOTE=somescripter;34503205]They will never be a female unless they: have legitimate breasts (that can milk), have a vagina, [B]have periods, and can have children.[/B] [i]Never.[/i][/QUOTE] Oh my god you just opened the can of worms. Worms are everywhere now. You are implying that women who lose the ability to have periods or reproduce are no longer female. By the way it is possible to develop functional breasts with therapy.
[QUOTE=thisispain;34503247]heh what about people on birth control who can't have children or periods?[/QUOTE] Some birth control pills have a 7 day period where you have your period. And you can still become pregnant while on the pill, it's just a lowered chance.
[QUOTE=ChilColdCoolaid;34503256]Oh my god you just opened the can of worms. Worms are everywhere now. You are implying that women who lose the ability to have periods or reproduce are no longer female.[/QUOTE] apparently women reach an age where they turn into men
[QUOTE=thisispain;34503247]heh what about people on birth control who can't have children or periods?[/QUOTE] Heh, I re-phrase to: to at least have once carried the ability to get pregnant.
[QUOTE=somescripter;34503205]They will never be a female unless they: have legitimate breasts (that can milk), have a vagina, have periods, and can have children. [i]Never.[/i][/QUOTE] All of that is possible sans the having periods and having children part, and even then there are people who are female from birth who can't do the latter two. By this logic, infertile females are not actually women, women past their menstrual cycle are not actually women, and women without breasts (whether cut off in surgery or just too small to function) are not actually women. [editline]1st February 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=somescripter;34503276]I re-phrase to: to at least have once carried the ability to get pregnant.[/QUOTE] It is possible to be born infertile, is it not? Are these women not actually women?
[QUOTE=Lolkork;34502947]Didn't know that. [IMG]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_b8suo6dUxRw/TOrdYKH1yyI/AAAAAAAAAoU/Yaa2G_-poN4/s1600/the_more_you_know2.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] how old are you for not knowing that. I'm pretty sure all the people I know, know that its all genetics. a lot of gays/bi/trans repress it due to their anti-LGBT surroundings. I was like that in school, then I met more gay and bi people after school and found that I was. I mean i kinda knew i was, but i didn't want to express let alone tell people about it.
[QUOTE=somescripter;34503276]Heh, I re-phrase to: to at least have once carried the ability to get pregnant.[/QUOTE] What about women who never carried the ability to get pregnant. My god I am drowning in worms.
[QUOTE=Bawbag;34503265]Some birth control pills have a 7 day period where you have your period. And you can still become pregnant while on the pill, it's just a lowered chance.[/QUOTE] some, not all
[QUOTE=Megafanx13;34503277]All of that is possible sans the having periods and having children part, and even then there are people who are female from birth who can't do the latter two. By this logic, infertile females are not actually women, women past their menstrual cycle are not actually women, and women without breasts (whether cut off in surgery or just too small to function) are not actually women.[/QUOTE] Okay then, I add "to not have a Y chromosome" to my list.
[QUOTE=somescripter;34503276]Heh, I re-phrase to: to at least have once carried the ability to get pregnant.[/QUOTE] what the fuck do you know about sex anyway? yes that is a double entendre.
[QUOTE=thisispain;34503339]what the fuck do you know about sex anyway? yes that is a double entendre.[/QUOTE] How do you know so much about my sex-life? Stalker.
[QUOTE=somescripter;34503323]Okay then, I add "to not have a Y chromosome" to my list.[/QUOTE] seriously, what consequence or authority do you don in order to have a list? medical terminology not good enough for you?
[QUOTE=thisispain;34503366][b]U[/b]seriously, what consequence or auth[b]MAD[/b]ority do you don in or[b]BRO?[/b]der to have a list? medical terminology not good enough for you?[/QUOTE] I believe Y chromosome is scientific terminology, is it not? Females don't have one, transgender males do.
nothing like a trans* thread to bring out the transphobia
[QUOTE=Contag;34503396]nothing like a trans* thread to bring out the transphobia[/QUOTE] whats wrong with having phobias.
[QUOTE=Contag;34503396]nothing like a trans* thread to bring out the transphobia[/QUOTE] Well generally there won't be transphobic comments in a thread about cars don't get me started on crossover SUVs though, freaks
[QUOTE=somescripter;34503384]I believe Y chromosome is scientific terminology, is it not? Females don't have one, transgender males do.[/QUOTE] So a chromosome that can basically be defied by therapy and surgery somehow locks someone into the title of male or female for eternity?
kuro shouldn't you be hacking your underage garrysmod customers instead of insulting transgendered people
[QUOTE=Contag;34503396]nothing like a trans* thread to bring out the transphobia[/QUOTE] I already said I have no problem with transgender people, my friend even has a transgender father whom I get along with. However, that doesn't mean a male who pretends to be a female, actually is a female. Cold potatoes ain't hot, pal.
[QUOTE=Contag;34503396]nothing like a trans* thread to bring out the transphobia[/QUOTE] Siderodromophobia, the fear of trains.
[QUOTE=somescripter;34503323]Okay then, I add "to not have a Y chromosome" to my list.[/QUOTE] So what exactly is your solution to this apparently trans problem? Just prevent them from being happy and basically torture them by calling them their wrong gender? You sir should run for american politics for being such an ass backwards asshole that just thinks about some stupid logic and not about the person's feelings.
[QUOTE=somescripter;34503384]I believe Y chromosome is scientific terminology, is it not? Females don't have one, transgender males do.[/QUOTE] no just saying Y chromosome isn't scientific terminology. we have quite properly defined gender and are able to differentiate between biological sex and gender. this concept of "UH YOU'RE NOT A WOMAN UNLESS: LIST" is something stupid you came up with, not science.
[QUOTE=somescripter;34503430]I already said I have no problem with transgender people, my friend even has a transgender father whom I get along with. However, that doesn't mean a male who pretends to be a female, actually is a female. Cold potatoes ain't hot, pal.[/QUOTE] like I said before, why does that matter? It's just spiteful to bring that up when even you admit it doesn't matter
[QUOTE=Zeke129;34503427]Well generally there won't be transphobic comments in a thread about cars don't get me started on crossover SUVs though, freaks[/QUOTE] you can't just change your model just by changing your bodykit why won't these vehicles realize it!?
[QUOTE=codemaster85;34503434]So what exactly is your solution to this apparently trans problem? Just prevent them from being happy and basically torture them by calling them their wrong gender? You sir should run for american politics for being such an ass backwards asshole that just thinks about some stupid logic and not about the person's feelings.[/QUOTE] Nope. Let them be happy and do as they wish; everybody deserves to be happy. All I ask is that they don't expect other people to blatently lie to themselves and call them "she" when they are not that.
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