• German trans girl ‘to be institutionalised’
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[QUOTE=strayebyrd;34503454]like I said before, why does that matter? It's just spiteful to bring that up when even you admit it doesn't matter[/QUOTE] So I'm not allowed to disagree with you? I [i]have[/i] to agree with you on everything, otherwise I'm an asshole? No. Fuck your bandwagon.
[QUOTE=somescripter;34503430]I already said I have no problem with transgender people, my friend even has a transgender father whom I get along with. However, that doesn't mean a male who pretends to be a female, actually is a female. Cold potatoes ain't hot, pal.[/QUOTE] What we would consider a cold potato could easily be hot to an organism used to living in constant sub-zero conditions. Temperature is all relative and subjective. We are potatoes. Gender is temperature.
[QUOTE=strayebyrd;34503165]because of your overt contrarian attitude and refusal to leave it alone[/QUOTE] I don't just mean the reactions to what I've said, this thread was exactly the same before I even started posting here. Plus what you think of me hasn't got anything to do with it. Try going back like 10 pages and reading from there before you make stupid conclusions. You're the one who was criticising me for my 'baseless' opinions after all
[QUOTE=somescripter;34503430]However, that doesn't mean a male who pretends to be a female, actually is a female. [/QUOTE] as far as medicine and non-dickheads are concerned, anyone who identifies as female is female. they might have been biologically born male but that doesn't mean anything.
[QUOTE=strayebyrd;34503165]because of your overt contrarian attitude and refusal to leave it alone[/QUOTE] I don't just mean the reactions to what I've said, this thread was exactly the same before I even started posting here. Plus what you think of me hasn't got anything to do with it. Try going back like 10 pages and reading from there before you make stupid conclusions. You're the one who was criticising me for my 'baseless' opinions after all
[QUOTE=RobbL;34503485]I don't just mean the reactions to what I've said, this thread was exactly the same before I even started posting here. Plus what you think of me hasn't got anything to do with it. Try going back like 10 pages and reading from there before you make stupid conclusions. You're the one who was criticising me for my 'baseless' opinions after all[/QUOTE] and you've just been posting the same post ten times over and over.
[QUOTE=somescripter;34503479]So I'm not allowed to disagree with you? I [i]have[/i] to agree with you on everything, otherwise I'm an asshole? [B]No. Fuck your bandwagon.[/B][/QUOTE] wow way to stand out of the crowd by refusing to call transgendered people by their preferred pronoun take that conformists!
[QUOTE=somescripter;34503479]So I'm not allowed to disagree with you? I [i]have[/i] to agree with you on everything, otherwise I'm an asshole? No. Fuck your bandwagon.[/QUOTE] I'm not saying you're an asshole, I'm saying the way you're hammering the point is just spiteful and needlessly adds to the pressures and stress that comes with these sort of issues. If you just said 'okay if you want to be a woman I'll address you as a woman' then you wouldn't be going out of your way to do anything and no one gets hurt. It's not hard
[video=youtube;7KPTASFZ30Y]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KPTASFZ30Y[/video] Is the person in the bar who dundee grabs the crotch of; a man or a woman?
[QUOTE=Kopimi;34503503]wow way to stand out of the crowd by refusing to call transgendered people by their preferred pronoun take that conformists![/QUOTE] So if I one day as a child decided to say, "OI DAD, I'M NOT ACTUALLY A MALE I'M AN OGRE." and then went and got my pigment changed green, you think everybody would listen just because I [i]preferred[/i] to be an Ogre?
[QUOTE=somescripter;34503466]Nope. Let them be happy and do as they wish; everybody deserves to be happy. All I ask is that they don't expect other people to blatently lie to themselves and call them "she" when they are not that.[/QUOTE] You are going to murder me with these cans of worms. "She" and "he" are pronouns that are used to refer to a person. A human being. When you refer to a human being like this, you refer to their gender identity, not their biological sex. The only exception is when you are unaware of their gender identity. There is absolutely no excuse if their gender identity and their body match.
[QUOTE=somescripter;34503466]Nope. Let them be happy and do as they wish; everybody deserves to be happy. All I ask is that they don't expect other people to blatently lie to themselves and call them "she" when they are not that.[/QUOTE] aka stupid shit doesn't know the difference between gender and sex.
[QUOTE=PrusseluskenV2;34503529]If you cannot handle someone isn't 100% similar to you, you obviously have problems[/QUOTE] Aren't you guys the one who can't handle me being 100% similiar to [i]you[/i]. [i][b]Suddenly hypocrites.[/b][/i]
[QUOTE=somescripter;34503533]So if I one day as a child decided to say, "OI DAD, I'M NOT ACTUALLY A MALE I'M AN OGRE." and then went and got my pigment changed green, you think everybody would listen just because I [i]preferred[/i] to be an Ogre?[/QUOTE] if you genuinely felt inside that you were an ogre, that would be the fair and kind thing to do. People don't have that issue in the same way they have gender dysphoria though, so it's not the same at all.
[QUOTE=somescripter;34503533]So if I one day as a child decided to say, "OI DAD, I'M NOT ACTUALLY A MALE I'M AN OGRE." and then went and got my pigment changed green, you think everybody would listen just because I [i]preferred[/i] to be an Ogre?[/QUOTE] WOOOO YEAH SLIPPERY SLOPES! You are using the same argument some people use to oppose gay marriage btw. Man if we let those silly gays marry next thing you know people are going to marry dogs and windows.
[QUOTE=somescripter;34503533]So if I one day as a child decided to say, "OI DAD, I'M NOT ACTUALLY A MALE I'M AN OGRE." and then went and got my pigment changed green, you think everybody would listen just because I [i]preferred[/i] to be an Ogre?[/QUOTE] no because that's something stupid you made up. comparing being transgender to being an ogre betrays your useless bigotry
[QUOTE=ChilColdCoolaid;34503537]The only exception is when you are unaware of their gender identity[/QUOTE] Oh God I've had these moments... long curly blonde haired person with big breasts... stubble, a hefty jaw line and about 6'2''. Almost fell for it :v:
[QUOTE=somescripter;34503533]So if I one day as a child decided to say, "OI DAD, I'M NOT ACTUALLY A MALE I'M AN OGRE." and then went and got my pigment changed green, you think everybody would listen just because I [i]preferred[/i] to be an Ogre?[/QUOTE] I don't think Species Identity Disorder exists, nor do ogres, but as long as referring to you as an ogre didn't feed any kind of dangerous delusion that resulted in the eating of children's bones I'd do it
[QUOTE=somescripter;34503593]Oh God I've had these moments... big, tall, long blonde curly haired person with stubble and a big-ass jaw. Almost fell for it. :v:[/QUOTE] This one time, at band camp, I thought i was a train.
[QUOTE=somescripter;34503593]Oh God I've had these moments... big, tall, long blonde curly haired person with stubble and a big-ass jaw. Almost fell for it. :v:[/QUOTE] Gender identity has nothing to do with appearance or biological sex. Gender identity is what the person identifies themselves as.
[QUOTE=somescripter;34503533]So if I one day as a child decided to say, "OI DAD, I'M NOT ACTUALLY A MALE I'M AN OGRE." and then went and got my pigment changed green, you think everybody would listen just because I [i]preferred[/i] to be an Ogre?[/QUOTE] Now you're just being ridiculous. Ogre not only isn't a real thing, it's not even relatable to gender.
[QUOTE=somescripter;34503533]So if I one day as a child decided to say, "OI DAD, I'M NOT ACTUALLY A MALE I'M AN OGRE." and then went and got my pigment changed green, you think everybody would listen just because I [i]preferred[/i] to be an Ogre?[/QUOTE] haha oh wow i hope this wasn't really your attempt to sway people to your side of the argument, comparing gender confusion/preference with "im an ogreeeee!!" thats the same bigoted line of thinking as "oh so what just because a nigger says hes human im supposed to treat him like he is? YEAH RIGHT", it's not even close to being a valid comparison what are you even doing, you're just showing how bigoted you are
I think it does, actually. Not in a 'it's in the DSM' way, but in terms of actual people doing it
[QUOTE=somescripter;34503533]So if I one day as a child decided to say, "OI DAD, I'M NOT ACTUALLY A MALE I'M AN OGRE." and then went and got my pigment changed green, you think everybody would listen just because I [i]preferred[/i] to be an Ogre?[/QUOTE] Again with one of these stupid analogies. its not that they prefer it, its that they are it. its a real thing and you should man up and stop being a ignorant ass and just deal with it. Not one trans person i know actually went "I want to be a girl/boy right now." all of it happened at a very early age and they hate themselves for being that opposite sex. i bet you a dollar that any trans person would wish they were born their correct sex, rather than born in the wrong one and be tortured by it.
Just out of curiosity... What causes GID?
[QUOTE=Laferio;34503656]Just out of curiosity... What causes GID?[/QUOTE] humans being humans
[QUOTE=Laferio;34503656]Just out of curiosity... What causes GID?[/QUOTE] It's essentially caused by the same thing that makes a man identify himself as a man or a woman identify herself as a woman.
I'M A GUY THAT WANTS TO BE A GIRL GIVE ME ATTENTION NOW! [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Troll" - Lithifold))[/highlight]
This is who I am on the inside. [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ed/Bullet_train.jpg[/img] [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Troll" - Lithifold))[/highlight]
What.. Nobody can tell me what causes GID?
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