• German trans girl ‘to be institutionalised’
    892 replies, posted
so did we come to an agreement that this girl is a girl and her father is an asshole cus if im not imma be pretty damn angry
[QUOTE=Skelmech;34569157]so did we come to an agreement that this girl is a girl and her father is an asshole cus if im not imma be pretty damn angry[/QUOTE] Hopefully. Some prick came in here along with a bunch of other pricks saying that we should be men.
[QUOTE=HorizoN;34569398]saying that we should be men.[/QUOTE] Maybe if he thinks everyone born as a male should be a male, he should start acting like a real man himself. A real man would admit when he's wrong rather than tote his opinion around as if it were fact even in face of evidence proving him wrong.
One must keep in mind perhaps he is simply unconvinced...
How can you be unconvinced of something in the face of proven facts? That's just sheer idiocy and refusal to admit when you're wrong.
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;34569606]One must keep in mind perhaps he is simply unconvinced...[/QUOTE] oh good fucking god you better not mean this poor girl
[QUOTE=Skelmech;34569636]oh good fucking god you better not mean this poor girl[/QUOTE] No, as far as I am from being the one to advocated transgenderism, the kid's pretty damn convinced she's a girl so we'll leave her to slice her wang off or whatever. I'm talking about the guy that got banned. What criteria must be met for you to "win" a debate? Must you convince the other side? Or just provide your faultless evidence? If the latter, then both sides often leave without being fully convinced.
[QUOTE=HorizoN;34569398]Hopefully. Some prick came in here along with a bunch of other pricks saying that we should be men.[/QUOTE]The guy was fucking around, maybe even being satirical. It's hurtful, but he was obviously not trying to convince anyone. getting upset is just giving people the satisfaction that they got to you
[QUOTE=Triumph Forks;34569691]The guy was fucking around, maybe even being satirical. It's hurtful, but he was obviously not trying to convince anyone. getting upset is just giving people the satisfaction that they got to you[/QUOTE] Oh he was asking for a ban.
my point exactly. coming into a thread, presenting a faulty argument, to get a rise out of people is easy to do with topics like this. fucking around isn't something I'd like to let myself get upset over, I'd rather take it in stride and continue to have an okay day
[QUOTE=synthiac;34570175]lmao i like how every trans-related thread on facepunch ends up being 20 pages of transphobes trying to push their illogical viewpoints[/QUOTE] Homophobes != transphobes Shit, you corrected yourself.
[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;34570282]Homophobes != transphobes[/QUOTE] He never said they were the same.
[QUOTE=HorizoN;34503764]From what I know your genes messed up and accidentally made you biologically male/female when mentally you are a female/male respectively. From what I've been reading in this thread I'm ashamed of some of you. Reading some posts have infuriated me immensely because of the [I]sheer ignorance[/I] of them. somescriptor. You are nothing but a cruel troll along with acds.[/QUOTE] Isn't mentality just personality though? Don't you attain personality through life?
[QUOTE=Megafanx13;34570303]He never said they were the same.[/QUOTE] He did say homophobes, but he changed it to transphobes as I wrote the reply.
[QUOTE=Coffee;34570316]Isn't mentality just personality though? Don't you attain personality through life?[/QUOTE] It isn't 'attained' the same way one doesn't 'attain' homosexuality or pedophilia.
[QUOTE=Megafanx13;34570395]It isn't 'attained' the same way one doesn't 'attain' homosexuality or pedophilia.[/QUOTE] It's my understanding that personality is affected by environmental factors, not genetic.
[QUOTE=synthiac;34570476]uh i never edited my post[/QUOTE] How strange, I could have sworn it said homophobes.
[QUOTE=synthiac;34570490]lmao holy shit why is conna still allowed to post?[/QUOTE] he should have been stopped as soon as he posted [url=http://www.facepunch.com/threads/551558]this[/url]
[QUOTE=Coffee;34570462]It's my understanding that personality is affected by environmental factors, not genetic.[/QUOTE] Really, so straight people only become straight because of the way their environment affects them and not because of an innate tendency?
[QUOTE=Coffee;34570462]It's my understanding that personality is affected by environmental factors, not genetic.[/QUOTE] Considering how utterly hateful the world is towards homosexuals and transgender people I found it very hard to believe that these traits are developed by environmental factors.
[QUOTE=Coffee;34570462]It's my understanding that personality is affected by environmental factors, not genetic.[/QUOTE] if environmental factors are what create you, then I should be manly as all fuck but instead im quite the girly transgirl
[QUOTE=Skelmech;34571051]if environmental factors are what create you, then I should be manly as all fuck but instead im quite the girly transgirl[/QUOTE] Yeah, if it is environ then I 'should' be a MANLY MAN. Nope, I'm just another girly transgirl.
I should probably wear a tracksuit, and kick peoples head in for not liking the right football team, but i'm quite the opposite, "environmental factors" shouldn't affect people who can think for themselves.
[QUOTE=HorizoN;34571829]Yeah, if it is environ then I 'should' be a MANLY MAN. Nope, I'm just another girly transgirl.[/QUOTE] Lol, Elecbullet looks to be jealous. Edit: Also I should probably contribute more to the thread than just making a joke there. In my experience environment only affects it a little bit. Environment can be the difference between someone hiding how they feel or actually coming out about it but is certainly not the cause.
I don't know what the fuck you are talking about. When I said "he is unconvinced", I was referring to the kid that got banned, who according to the general audience of this site (more transwomen than women it seems) is most likely a gender-happy female. Christ, you think you're so clever.
[QUOTE=Onyx3173;34576597]Lol, Elecbullet looks to be jealous. Edit: Also I should probably contribute more to the thread than just making a joke there. In my experience environment only affects it a little bit. Environment can be the difference between someone hiding how they feel or actually coming out about it but is certainly not the cause.[/QUOTE] Your environment can be, and is a huge influencing factor on a young person's developing mental state. Doesn't have to be directly, but still, it seems a little hasty to dismiss all of it just because there doesn't appear to be a direct link
I'm not really completely dismissing it. I'm just saying that it mostly doesn't seem to affect it. Rather than directly influencing whether or not someone is trans it seems that it's far more likely that environment only affects how likely they are to come out as trans. And I'm pretty sure that currently psychologists more or less agree with that claim as well. (Could be wrong there though admittedly.)
Hey, environment influenced my ability to come out. I live in a very tolerant family, despite some of them being religious. Others aren't so lucky.
I just got an email from the reporter from taz.de who originally brought up the story, It turns out they want to do a piece on the Petition and how much attention it gets. Will post link here when it is out!.
wow!
Sorry, you need to Log In to post a reply to this thread.