[QUOTE=Miskav;34482639]It makes him scum, It makes him trash, it makes him a subhuman piece of shit that needs to be purged.
I have had it with people like him, forcing others in to depression, suicide, suffering all because of their own goddamn ignorance.[/QUOTE]
Just to set things straight and not leave any doubts: No I'm not some kind of neo-Nazi that hates any non-macho Aryan race members (like some seem to think). You can do whatever the fuck you want with your body and life (well unless you damage others).
I was arguing about what someone technically is and isn't, I wouldn't go up to the child in question and tell them "You're not a she".
Just clearing it up because if you leave stuff unanswered someone always gets weird ideas.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;34483349]Privileged in what way?[/QUOTE]
Straight people have straight privilege .... they have the privilege of marriage without trouble, no hate crime for thier sexuality at least etc.
Cisgendered people have cis privilege .... people will always call them by correct pronouns, no hate crimes over gender ... marriage again etc.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;34483289]I think you're being petty but whatever[/QUOTE]
Once again, why is it understandable for someone Christian to be offended by someone calling a Christian a Christ-fag, for a black person to be offended when someone calls a black guy nigger, and for someone with aspergers to be offended when someone makes an aspie joke, yet it's not okay for transgendered people to be offended when someone calls someone by their sex?
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;34483349]Privileged in what way?[/QUOTE]
It's a form of availability bias.
"I don't see prejudice that often in my daily life, therefore prejudice must not be widespread" and variants thereof.
[editline]31st January 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=RobbL;34483383]This might not be completely relevant here, but what are the actual differences between the conditions during the development of a fetus that cause gender dysphoria and homosexuality, assuming both of these originate during the time in the womb because of hormones and stuff?[/QUOTE]
I don't think anyone knows for certain.
[QUOTE=acds;34482073]It's a guy. He can live whatever fairy tale he wants, he was born a guy and will always be.[/QUOTE]
Apparently you're having issues distinguishing the differences between "sex" and "gender".
[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;34483392]Once again, why is it understandable for someone Christian to be offended by someone calling a Christian a Christ-fag, for a black person to be offended when someone calls a black guy nigger, and for someone with aspergers to be offended when someone makes an aspie joke, yet it's not okay for transgendered people to be offended when someone calls someone by their sex?[/QUOTE]
I think it is more like saying "god doesn't exist with a christian around, which quite frankly I'm not offended by at all.
[QUOTE=nekosune;34483223]The suicide threat was after the father caused trouble trying to get the kid forced into a male role, without the fathers interference there would have been no trouble, she was in therapy for transgendered people, and basically working through things.[/QUOTE]
Well then the best therapy is keeping the father away from the child. That or changing the father's opinions but that might be harder.
[QUOTE=Miskav;34482520]Were you born a jackass? Because if you weren't scum when you were a baby you sure as fuck turned in to it later on in your pathetic existence.[/QUOTE]
Harsh. You're speaking as much baseless bullshit as the guy you're criticising
[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;34483392]Once again, why is it understandable for someone Christian to be offended by someone calling a Christian a Christ-fag, for a black person to be offended when someone calls a black guy nigger, and for someone with aspergers to be offended when someone makes an aspie joke, yet it's not okay for transgendered people to be offended when someone calls someone by their sex?[/QUOTE]
The thing that all of those have is, that a black person is actually black, and hating them for being black is wrong. A 'transgender' person is not and never will be what they think they are, and having them a part of society running around in opposite sex's bathrooms and tricking people into having homosexual relationships is disgusting and needs psychiatric help.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;34483414]I think it is more like saying "god doesn't exist with a christian around, which quite frankly I'm not offended by at all.[/QUOTE]
Well you're simply wrong.
One is an insult, the other is an argument.
[QUOTE=RobbL;34483427]Harsh. You're speaking as much baseless bullshit as the guy you're criticising[/QUOTE]
Not to mention ad hominem attacks is a stupid way of arguing.
[QUOTE=AngryChairR;34483458]The thing that all of those have is, that a black person is actually black, and hating them for being black is wrong. A 'transgender' person is not and never will be what they think they are, and having them a part of society running around in opposite sex's bathrooms and tricking people into having homosexual relationships is disgusting and needs psychiatric help.[/QUOTE]
Gender Dysphoria is an actual thing, please at least read a Wiki article about it along with the citations.
[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;34483461]Well you're simply wrong.
One is an insult, the other is an argument.[/QUOTE]
Saying he instead of she is not necessarily an insult either.
And saying God doesn't exist to a person who is obviously a christian is very much like saying you're a man not a woman to a transgender
[QUOTE=AngryChairR;34483458] A 'transgender' person is not and never will be what they think they are, and having them a part of society running around in opposite sex's bathrooms and tricking people into having homosexual relationships is disgusting and needs psychiatric help.[/QUOTE]
Once again, says who and why not
[QUOTE=acds;34483417]Well then the best therapy is keeping the father away from the child. That or changing the father's opinions but that might be harder.[/QUOTE]
The problem is, as I stated earlier, Berlin is home to the only place that still tries to 'cure' transgender people with stuff like pushing them away from anything feminine.
Also the funny part is that most psychiatrists will support transgender part so
Dammit, was attempting to automerge
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;34483494]Saying he instead of she is not necessarily an insult either.[/QUOTE]
[quote=I]not in the strict sense, no.
but calling them that after
a) they've made it explicit that that's how they want to be referred to
b) being called out on it multiple times
is derogatory.[/quote]
[QUOTE=AngryChairR;34483458]The thing that all of those have is, that a black person is actually black, and hating them for being black is wrong. A 'transgender' person is not and never will be what they think they are, and having them a part of society running around in opposite sex's bathrooms and tricking people into having homosexual relationships is disgusting and needs psychiatric help.[/QUOTE]
Wow, you just managed to piss off not only transgendered people, but homosexuals and bi-sexuals as well. Congratulations, you are a massive cunt.
[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;34483392]Once again, why is it understandable for someone Christian to be offended by someone calling a Christian a Christ-fag, for a black person to be offended when someone calls a black guy nigger, and for someone with aspergers to be offended when someone makes an aspie joke, yet it's not okay for transgendered people to be offended when someone calls someone by their sex?[/QUOTE]
I'd say it's mostly lack of understanding, willful or innocent ignorance.
Like the thread a while back about a Trans girl being suspended for using the Girls room, and basically everyone was trying to equate the situation to this:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iPJlp0TvY8[/media]
But that's just how I see it
[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;34483242]I'm on here. It's offensive to me as a transgender person to see other transgendered people referred to by their biological sex.
Good enough for ya?[/QUOTE]
I think you're too easily offended. There's worse things people can do
[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;34483520][/QUOTE]
I guess I can sympathise, it's just one of those little prejudices that I have that take a while to iron out.
[QUOTE=Uber|nooB;34483091]well, we're getting there, however slowly that may be[/QUOTE]
Get 2 'transgendered' people "one male and one female" and switch bodies.
[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;34483392]Once again, why is it understandable for someone Christian to be offended by someone calling a Christian a Christ-fag, for a black person to be offended when someone calls a black guy nigger, and for someone with aspergers to be offended when someone makes an aspie joke, yet it's not okay for transgendered people to be offended when someone calls someone by their sex?[/QUOTE]
Because they [I]are[/I] their sex? Last time I checked male and female aren't derogatory terms, whereas nigger is
[QUOTE=RobbL;34483549]I think you're too easily offended. There's worse things people can do[/QUOTE]
I don't think anyone can reasonably make such a claim until they've been on the receiving end of it.
[QUOTE=AngryChairR;34483458]The thing that all of those have is, that a black person is actually black, and hating them for being black is wrong. A 'transgender' person is not and never will be what they think they are, and having them a part of society running around in opposite sex's bathrooms and tricking people into having homosexual relationships is disgusting and needs psychiatric help.[/QUOTE]
Thank goodness you got banned, because I dont know much more fucking retarded shit you could pump out in one day.
[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;34483474]Gender Dysphoria is an actual thing, please at least read a Wiki article about it along with the citations.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;34483496]Once again, says who and why not[/QUOTE]
it's ok, he does this in every thread he posts in
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;34483349]Privileged in what way?[/QUOTE]
Never having to see your entire group marginalized with a single word and not understanding what it feels like to see such a thing
There's white privilege, cisgender privilege, heterosexual privilege, christian privilege, male privilege, etc
[QUOTE=RobbL;34483574]Because they [I]are[/I] their sex? Last time I checked male and female aren't derogatory terms, whereas nigger is[/QUOTE]
Depends on context.
Insults aren't designed to fit into your neat little categories, they're designed to insult people.
[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;34483049]Maybe someone could invent a device that can change someone's "sex" to match their "gender".[/QUOTE]
Such a "device" exists, it is commonly called "gender reassignment surgery" or "sex-change surgery" or something like that.
Yes, I am transgender myself, and I DO feel offended if someone calls me, or any other person, "he" despite knowing better.
[QUOTE=N-12_Aden;34483596]Thank goodness you got banned, because I dont know much more fucking retarded shit you could pump out in one day.[/QUOTE]
Banned for similar stuff in a similar thread too.
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