[QUOTE=Trotsky;19351530]Like a booming economy?
oh, what a negative effect.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://blogs.usd.edu/crepub/entry/fdr_s_new_deal_hurt[/url]
[QUOTE=Splode a Pinga;19350922]Sure, conservatives are a threat. You liberals are only spending money like water falling from the Niagara falls, when we have [I]less[/I] than none to spend. You're robbing the future of those yet born.[/QUOTE]
yeah the conservatives never spend money
certainly not on fruitless wars, either
[QUOTE=Lazor;19351738]yeah the conservatives never spend money
certainly not on fruitless wars, either[/QUOTE]
Terrorists severely weakened, a dictator taken out, two countries freed.
Yes, fruitless.
A BLOG?
NOOOOO
And this article consists of him whining about the tax increases
please, learn to think for yourself.
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[QUOTE=Splode a Pinga;19351765]Terrorists severely weakened, a dictator taken out, two countries freed.
Yes, fruitless.[/QUOTE]
you are one naive little bastard.
[QUOTE=Lazor;19351738]yeah the conservatives never spend money
certainly not on fruitless wars, either[/QUOTE]
I'm not a conservative but this entirely untrue. We MAKE money from war. That is why we war. It's called the military industrial complex. Learn it. Its basically why America is terrible.
[QUOTE=Aaronn;19352831]I'm not a conservative but this entirely untrue. We MAKE money from war. That is why we war. It's called the military industrial complex. Learn it. Its basically why America is terrible.[/QUOTE]
Half true, the government doesn't make money off it.
The "government" definitely makes their fair share. If they didn't, why do you think they would condone the corporatism? I'll give an example: Gays. Do you really believe that democrats and republicans, in office, really give a shit about them or their rights? Like when Bush was in office, he passed legislation against gay marriage. But do you think he really gave a damn? No, he in fact, did not. It is the issues like this that get them votes. They side with certain issues for voters. And whoever is in office, basically decides which faction of the corporate hierarchy gets paid, big time.
Republicans - Backed and supported by the Military Industrial Complex
Democrats - Back and supported by Telecommunications
Whoever is in office, decides the which way the nation leans and spends money. Obama isn't very liberal at all, he's in fact pretty conservative. Right now the MIC and Telecommunications are pretty much in balance. Neither side is a clear winner.
That's all under the table. Not saying you're wrong though.
[QUOTE=Aaronn;19353167]Like when Bush was in office, he passed legislation against gay marriage. But do you think he really gave a damn? No, he in fact, did not.[/quote]
That slaps me on the knee
[quote]Obama isn't very liberal at all, he's in fact pretty conservative[/QUOTE]
...are you serious?
[QUOTE=Splode a Pinga;19353600]That slaps me on the knee
...are you serious?[/QUOTE]
Oh, don't offer a rebuttal or anything
Reaction to title: Who?
Reaction to first word in OP: Good thing he got a heart attack.
[QUOTE=Splode a Pinga;19353600]That slaps me on the knee
...are you serious?[/QUOTE]
You are quite retarded. Obviously an oblivious American conservative.
You are under the delusion that the president of the United States, cares about gay marriage.
You also know nothing of politics if you believe Obama is liberal. By [b]American[/b] standards, yes he is liberal. But that is only because America is one of the most politically conservative nations in the world. Being slightly liberal in America, instantly makes you a communist.
So, get the fuck out.
[QUOTE=Aaronn;19353955]You are quite retarded. Obviously an oblivious American conservative.
You are under the delusion that the president of the United States, cares about gay marriage.
You also know nothing of politics if you believe Obama is liberal. By [b]American[/b] standards, yes he is liberal. But that is only because America is one of the most politically conservative nations in the world. Being slightly liberal in America, instantly makes you a communist.
So, get the fuck out.[/QUOTE]
1) Yes, some people actually care about social issues. I don't see how this is hard to believe.
2) I would hate to see your definition of a true liberal. You seem like a hardline lefty.
3) So I have a dissenting opinion. Does that mean I need to 'get the fuck out'?
[QUOTE=Splode a Pinga;19354052]1) Yes, some people actually care about social issues. I don't see how this is hard to believe.
2) I would hate to see your definition of a true liberal. You seem like a hardline lefty.
3) So I have a dissenting opinion. Does that mean I need to 'get the fuck out'?[/QUOTE]
The issues are for votes as I've already discussed. I'm pretty sure you live in America and you are either very young or didn't pay attention to politics in school, because you lack the definition of a liberal. American standards are absurd. I don't care if you dissent of course. I care if you back up your opinion with absolutely no facts and no knowledge.
[QUOTE=Aaronn;19354124]The issues are for votes as I've already discussed. I'm pretty sure you live in America and you are either very young or didn't pay attention to politics in school, because you lack the definition of a liberal. American standards are absurd. I don't care if you dissent of course. I care if you back up your opinion with absolutely no facts and no knowledge.[/QUOTE]
Indeed, I live in America.
And really, they don't teach that much political stuff in school. We never received the definitions of 'liberal' or 'conservative'.
[QUOTE=Splode a Pinga;19354182]Indeed, I live in America.
And really, they don't teach that much political stuff in school. We never received the definitions of 'liberal' or 'conservative'.[/QUOTE]
Once you reach high school, I'm sure you will
[QUOTE=Splode a Pinga;19354182]IAnd really, they don't teach that much political stuff in school. We never received the definitions of 'liberal' or 'conservative'.[/QUOTE]
Really because there's this thing called US history that teaches you pretty much that, especially if you do what I'm doing and are taking AP.
To put it quite it simply, I'll be laughing so hard the day all the rich people leave this country when insane tax laws get imposed and the majority of complainers and anarchists thought it would be a great idea because they think all rich are greedy or something.
[QUOTE=ItchyBarracuda;19354433]To put it quite it simply, I'll be laughing so hard the day all the rich people leave this country when insane tax laws get imposed and the majority thought it would be a great idea because they're greedy or something.[/QUOTE]
Which rich are you talking about? The actual wealthy people who inherited or worked for their money, or the corporate executives who give themselves million dollar bonuses?
[QUOTE=Aaronn;19354514]Which rich are you talking about? The actual wealthy people who inherited or worked for their money, or the corporate executives who give themselves million dollar bonuses?[/QUOTE]
Both.
[QUOTE=ItchyBarracuda;19354433]To put it quite it simply, I'll be laughing so hard the day all the rich people leave this country when insane tax laws get imposed and the majority of complainers and anarchists thought it would be a great idea because they think all rich are greedy or something.[/QUOTE]
Listen, Ms. Rand... The rich people won't be leaving, and if they do, nothing of value would be lost.
oh you silly libertarians
Technically, most of their money isn't even kept within America. Most of it is in offshore and international interests. The corporate executives can of course leave, but if their corporation goes with them, they lose money because not all countries are as tolerant of their hierarchy as America is. The working/inherited wealthy could leave without upsetting the balance as well, despite being wealthy, they don't hold a significant amount of the USA's interests and currency to upset the balance.
Swiss banks anyone?
[QUOTE=ItchyBarracuda;19354433]To put it quite it simply, I'll be laughing so hard the day all the rich people leave this country when insane tax laws get imposed and the majority of complainers and anarchists thought it would be a great idea because they think all rich are greedy or something.[/QUOTE]
Yes, when they leave, they will go to...
Costa Rica? Somalia?
Name a country with less economic restrictions and lower taxes on the super-rich than the U.S. that also isn't a terrible, terrible place to live.
[QUOTE=Trotsky;19354670]Listen, Ms. Rand... The rich people won't be leaving, and if they do, nothing of value would be lost.
oh you silly libertarians[/QUOTE]
What is this with the labeling game? It's like you can't comprehend that there are people that don't have any political affiliation whatsoever. You live in a world where everyone [i]has[/i] to be labeled something because that's the only way you can make sense of what someone is saying.
No entrepreneurs = No jobs. Good luck with that
[QUOTE=ItchyBarracuda;19355274]What is this with the labeling game? It's like you can't comprehend that there are people that don't have any political affiliation whatsoever. You live in a world where everyone [i]has[/i] to be labeled something because that's the only way you can make sense of what someone is saying.
No entrepreneurs = No jobs. Good luck with that[/QUOTE]
Name a country with less economic restrictions and lower taxes on the super-rich than the U.S. that also isn't a terrible, terrible place to live.
When the wealthy leave the U.S., they'll have to go somewhere. Tell me where.
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and don't mention Dubai because that city is going bankrupt
[QUOTE=Sigma-Lambda;19355291]Name a country with less economic restrictions and lower taxes on the super-rich than the U.S. that also isn't a terrible, terrible place to live.
When the wealthy leave the U.S., they'll have to go somewhere. Tell me where.[/QUOTE]
Monaco (more commonly known as Monte Carlo). No taxes. No murders, nothing. Wonderful place, I consider moving there someday myself.
[QUOTE=ItchyBarracuda;19355274]What is this with the labeling game? It's like you can't comprehend that there are people that don't have any political affiliation whatsoever. You live in a world where everyone [i]has[/i] to be labeled something because that's the only way you can make sense of what someone is saying.
No entrepreneurs = No jobs. Good luck with that[/QUOTE]
It's just a way to organize stuff. And uh, honestly, a label isn't going to kill you.
By that logic, only rich people make up the working force of countries
NO DON'T LEAVE
[img]http://www.thesunblog.com/frosting/paris-hilton.jpg[/img]
NO
NO
[QUOTE=Trotsky;19355393]It's just a way to organize stuff. And uh, honestly, a label isn't going to kill you.
By that logic, only rich people make up the working force of countries
NO DON'T LEAVE
[img]http://www.thesunblog.com/frosting/paris-hilton.jpg[/img]
NO
NO[/QUOTE]
You're lumping together people "famous for being famous" inheriting daddy's money with hard working individuals that build an empire from nothing.
I don't need to justify myself. Just wait for the day to come and you'll see how wonderful your life won't be.
[QUOTE=ItchyBarracuda;19355370]Monaco (more commonly known as Monte Carlo). No taxes. No murders, nothing. Wonderful place, I consider moving there someday myself.[/QUOTE]
Except that place is tiny and runs on tobacco and tourism
and uh
those are hot commodities. When you have money rolling into a small area with very few people, you can expect the people who live there to not be a source of profit.
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[QUOTE=ItchyBarracuda;19355444]You're lumping together people "famous for being famous" inheriting daddy's money with hard working individuals that build an empire from nothing.
I don't need to justify myself. Just wait for the day to come and you'll see how wonderful your life won't be.[/QUOTE]
MY life isn't wonderful anyway.
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