[QUOTE=Canary;48545647]Love how gun nuts come swarming in trying to rationalize owning god knows how many guns they have and all they do is spew the same old garbage.
Maybe actually come up with some fresh valid point other than selfishly thinking you have the right to stock up on weapons because they help you justify being some crazy outcast. Lol[/QUOTE]
Why do you have such a hateboner for guns.
Again, you do realize that if people want to kill people, they'll find ways to kill them, right?
You realize people are killed in your country too, right?
[QUOTE=Big Bang;48545658]8000+ gun homicides doesn't seem fucking strange to you? like, 3/4ths of all murders registered in America are performed with a gun doesn't that strike you as strange?
seems like America's violent, paranoid and overzealous society and its gun culture are a bad combination![/QUOTE]
The massive gang and drug issues we have are counted in that.
[QUOTE=PiX06;48545632]All those people that are saying that not allowing people to have guns in the first place wouldn't work:
[URL]https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/298435/Police_use_of_firearms_Commons.pdf[/URL]
Just look at the first page of that document. It states "The Police discharged a conventional firearm in 3 incidents (down from 5 incidents in
2011-12)."
That's a pretty impressive statistic. You're not telling me that the Police in America actually fire their weapons so infrequently.[/QUOTE]
As always, your country is a small, isolated island with a vastly different set of demographics, economy, culture, and host of other differences.
[QUOTE=Big Bang;48545658]8000+ gun homicides doesn't seem fucking strange to you? like, 3/4ths of all murders registered in America are performed with a gun doesn't that strike you as strange?
seems like America's violent, paranoid and overzealous society and its gun culture are a bad combination![/QUOTE]
10000 homicides in a year out of 360 million people?
Must be a violent society.
[QUOTE=agentfazexx;48545617]Okay now you're trolling.
[url]https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-11[/url]
Over 1600 knife homicides in the US in 2011. Yup, people don't use knives to kill.[/QUOTE]
it's still a shit-ton less than 8,583
[QUOTE=agentfazexx;48545617]Okay now you're trolling.
[url]https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-11[/url]
Over 1600 knife homicides in the US in 2011. Yup, people don't use knives to kill.[/QUOTE]
So your answer to having no good valid point to an argument is to advise I'm trolling? If knives are just as effective why do you not have those instead then?
Guns are far far more effective and deadly than knives, doesn't take any statistics to know that.
[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;48545633][B]point out the post where i insulted you for being american, or made any reference to your american origin[/B][/QUOTE]
where is it grenadiac
[QUOTE=Canary;48545647]Love how gun nuts come swarming in trying to rationalize owning god knows how many guns they have and all they do is spew the same old garbage.
[B]Maybe actually come up with some fresh valid point other than selfishly thinking you have the right to stock up on weapons because they help you justify being some crazy outcast. Lol[/B][/QUOTE]
I love foreigners commenting on my country, saying we rationalize owning these things because we're "crazy outcasts".
There is a pair of words for people like you.
Generalizing Prick.
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[QUOTE=AaronM202;48545579]Sport and hunting.
Two perfectly mundane uses for them.
What next, ban knives?[/QUOTE]
Don't forget bows, arrows, javelins, and throwing axes.
[QUOTE=Canary;48545594]No, knives are tools he wouldn't have done this with a knife.[/QUOTE]
The fuck are you talking about? I can pull hypotheticals out of my ass too. Did you see his video? He had the perfect opportunity to assault them with a knife.
[QUOTE=Canary;48545647]Love how gun nuts come swarming in trying to rationalize owning god knows how many guns they have and all they do is spew the same old garbage.
Maybe actually come up with some fresh valid point other than selfishly thinking you have the right to stock up on weapons because they help you justify being some crazy outcast. Lol[/QUOTE]
Most people who own guns are perfectly functional members of society and their communities. The argument you keep falling back to is "You're all crazy baby murdering mass murderers looking to kill everyone and their dogs!"
I beg britcucks to reason: the United States is not like European countries. We have crime, poverty, and racial tensions in this country on unimaginable scales to the average Euro. In some areas it's basically the Wild West in comparison. We have generally more corrupt laws, generally have our labor more abused by corporations and faulty legislation, and still do not have adequate government programs to help the needy. We also have trigger happy cops
The U.S. government has not represented its people for a long time, and I would be happy to give up my guns if I knew that our country was in good hands, but it isn't.
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;48545638]Cool sociopathy. Callous disregard for the rights and thoughts of others.[/QUOTE]
That's quite ironic considering you're trying to justify owning something for your own 'right' above the safety of the general population
[QUOTE=Canary;48545594]No, knives are tools he wouldn't have done this with a knife.[/QUOTE]
Actually he probably would have. Guns are also tools, they provide meat for my dinner table, protection, and enjoyment.
[QUOTE=Canary;48545647]Love how gun nuts come swarming in trying to rationalize owning god knows how many guns they have and all they do is spew the same old garbage.
Maybe actually come up with some fresh valid point other than selfishly thinking you have the right to stock up on weapons because they help you justify being some crazy outcast. Lol[/QUOTE]
maybe the same old garbage that they're spewing is the reason
just because you don't like it doesn't mean you're right
you are entitled to your opinion, and we are entitled to ours
give us a good reason to sacrifice a right granted to us by our Founding Fathers instead of demanding reasons why we should be able to keep them
[QUOTE=Canary;48545686]That's quite ironic considering you're trying to justify owning something for your own 'right' above the safety of the general population[/QUOTE]
Explain how me owning a gun safely locked up in my home puts anybody at risk
[QUOTE=Perfumly;48545685]I beg britcucks to reason: the United States is not like European countries. We have crime, poverty, and racial tensions in this country on unimaginable scales to the average Euro. In some areas it's basically the Wild West in comparison. We have generally more corrupt laws, generally have our labor more abused by corporations and faulty legislation, and still do not have adequate government programs to help the needy. We also have trigger happy cops
The U.S. government has not represented its people for a long time, and I would be happy to give up my guns if I knew that our country was in good hands, but it isn't.[/QUOTE]
Too bad, we're taking your guns then we're taking back the country.
[QUOTE=Toro;48545666]10000 homicides in a year out of 360 million people?
Must be a violent society.[/QUOTE]
it's HORRIBLY violent! that's more murders a year than Pakistan. China has the same amount of murders per year while having 5 times as many people.
[QUOTE=Canary;48545686]That's quite ironic considering you're trying to justify owning something for your own 'right' above the safety of the general population[/QUOTE]
So why exactly is it you feel so superior to us, anyway.
Hey, look at that, im looking outside my window, nothings happening.
According to you it should be World War Three over here because we're so CrAzY aNd ZaNy enough to own the dreaded GUNS, as if that somehow reflects on the owner.
[QUOTE=dbk21894;48545696]maybe the same old garbage that they're spewing is the reason
just because you don't like it doesn't mean you're right
you are entitled to your opinion, and we are entitled to ours
give us a good reason to sacrifice a right granted to us by our Founding Fathers instead of demanding reasons why we should be able to keep them[/QUOTE]
You don't even need to use the Constitution as an argument. The numbers are solid enough - out of [B]300,000,000[/B] documented firearms (many more undocumented) an exceedingly small percentage of them, most undocumented or illegal, are used in violent crimes.
[QUOTE=Perfumly;48545685]I beg britcucks to reason: the United States is not like European countries. We have crime, poverty, and racial tensions in this country on unimaginable scales to the average Euro. In some areas it's basically the Wild West in comparison. We have generally more corrupt laws, generally have our labor more abused by corporations and faulty legislation, and still do not have adequate government programs to help the needy. We also have trigger happy cops
The U.S. government has not represented its people for a long time, and I would be happy to give up my guns if I knew that our country was in good hands, but it isn't.[/QUOTE]
See I'm glad this guy has bothered to make an actual original reason and thought out justification for the legality of firearms in the US rather than the standard "I have 20 guns I'm safe trust me", "Guns don't kill people" and "Knives are weapons too"
Saw footage the shooter himself recorded. He held his phone to record with one hand and used another to point the gun at the reporter.
He posted it on his FB account right after shooter the two, this is really fucked up.
[QUOTE=Canary;48545686]That's quite ironic considering you're trying to justify owning something for your own 'right' above the safety of the general population[/QUOTE]
You'd better turn in your cricket bats m8, they could be used as weapons and are therefore a menace to the population at large
[QUOTE=Riutet;48545710]Too bad, we're taking your guns then we're taking back the country.[/QUOTE]
Pls no daddybritbong
[QUOTE=Canary;48545718]See I'm glad this guy has bothered to make an actual original reason and thought out justification for the legality of firearms in the US rather than the standard "I have 20 guns I'm safe trust me", "Guns don't kill people" and "Knives are weapons too"[/QUOTE]
Or maybe people shouldnt have to justify owning something because some nut did something crazy.
Maybe thats kind of, y'know, dumb.
[QUOTE=Canary;48545718]See I'm glad this guy has bothered to make an actual original reason and thought out justification for the legality of firearms in the US rather than the standard "I have 20 guns I'm safe trust me", "Guns don't kill people" and "Knives are weapons too"[/QUOTE]
Guns are tools, That's it. Knives are tools, That's it.
[QUOTE=Canary;48545686]That's quite ironic considering you're trying to justify owning something for your own 'right' above the safety of the general population[/QUOTE]
Owning a gun poses no threat to anyone. The general populace is in no more danger for someone owning a gun. Rationalizing the banning of something because of its potential use for a crime is entirely irrational.
[QUOTE=Canary;48545718]See I'm glad this guy has bothered to make an actual original reason and thought out justification for the legality of firearms in the US rather than the standard "I have 20 guns I'm safe trust me", "Guns don't kill people" and "Knives are weapons too"[/QUOTE]
You like his argument because it includes "I would be happy to give up my guns". You ignore anyone who suggests that guns may not be the cause of violence, that there is a larger problem, etc. and continue to spew bullshit.
[editline]26th August 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=Alan Ninja!;48545724]You'd better turn in your cricket bats m8, they could be used as weapons and are therefore a menace to the population at large[/QUOTE]
This is actually a thing in Britain and it's a thing that people there are okay with.
[QUOTE=Pilot1215;48545731]Guns are tools, That's it. Knives are tools, That's it.[/QUOTE]
Everything can be a tool. Anything can be a weapon.
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