[QUOTE=Big Bang;48545836]bro.
you live in a country where one deranged psycho walked into a kindergarden and shot up 20 kids. and these events happen regularly.[/QUOTE]
Ah yes, Adam Lanza, the guy who stole his moms guns and did this.
Lets make all reasonable gun owners look bad because of him. That's a valid argument right?
[QUOTE=Big Bang;48545868]and even then we don't have spree killings! do you not see what's wrong with that statement?[/QUOTE]
Yeah, America doesn't have enough facism and thought crime.
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;48545857]Bro, you live in a country where your people supported facist regimes and where people are being imprisoned for thinking of voting wrong.[/QUOTE]
this hasnt got shit to do with the argument
how petty
[url=http://www.twitter.com/Reuters/status/636581316100784128]@Reuters: [B]"BREAKING: Suspected shooter of TV journalists apprehended, being transported to hospital with life-threatening injuries: VA police"[/B][/url]
Good. But hey, he gets free courtesy protection because the whole nation wants his head on a stick now!
[QUOTE=Perfumly;48545874]The great American Revolution was fought with hugs and peaceful protesting
Without armed revolution u bongs wouldn't even have light bulbs ffs[/QUOTE]
for the record perfumly isn't joking he's actually this crazy
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;48544995]This. This is something which is what almost is universally agreed will put a fairly decent dent in crime.
I personally believe a system should be set in place so that the cheaper the firearm, the longer the wait time. Up to about five days waiting period. That way any form of background that needs to be established can be done, and no problems arise from it.[/QUOTE]
Why do you hate poor people??
[QUOTE=Kommodore;48545530]just want to say not all americans are dented in the head about guns, it's always just the same 15 obsessives on FP[/QUOTE]
I just want to say not all europeans are "lol silly murricans and their stupid guns xD" too, it's always just the same 15 obsessives on FP
[QUOTE=Big Bang;48545868]and even then we don't have spree killings! do you not see what's wrong with that statement?[/QUOTE]
"They're not killing sprees if they're state sponsored" is all I get from this.
[QUOTE=BazzBerry;48545879]No, but banning guns will save more lives in the long run. How can you be so ignorant to not recognize this fact?
Most mass shootings are done in a blind fury. I sincerely doubt that Sandy Hook would have happened if the shooter hadn't been able to grab his parent's gun. Do you sincerely think that he would have taken the time and effort to go out and find a gun to continue doing it, or do you think he would have realized after waiting a little while and spending the effort to get it that "hey, this is fucked up". Yes, people will still find other ways to do it - knives, cars, etc. But the mortality rate would be [B]much[/B] lower and more lives would be spared.
I seriously don't understand how incredibly dense Americans are when it comes to their "[I]conshtitushiuonal [/I]right". If guns were not so easily and readily available (e.g in their fucking parents lockup) then half of these mass shootings would not occur.[/QUOTE]
It's impossible to ban guns in the United States, as I mentioned on another thread, registering guns in the US is damn near impossible. Over 300 million firearms in the US. Close to 100 million gun owners.
[QUOTE=BazzBerry;48545879]No, but banning guns will save more lives in the long run. How can you be so ignorant to not recognize this fact?
Most mass shootings are done in a blind fury. I sincerely doubt that Sandy Hook would have happened if the shooter hadn't been able to grab his parent's gun. Do you sincerely think that he would have taken the time and effort to go out and find a gun to continue doing it, or do you think he would have realized after waiting a little while and spending the effort to get it that "hey, this is fucked up". Yes, people will still find other ways to do it - knives, cars, etc. But the mortality rate would be [B]much[/B] lower and more lives would be spared.
I seriously don't understand how incredibly dense Americans are when it comes to their "[I]conshtitushiuonal [/I]right". If guns were not so easily and readily available (e.g in their fucking parents lockup) then half of these mass shootings would not occur.[/QUOTE]
Australia's change in gun policy had literally zero effect on its violent crime rates. No extra lives were saved because of their efforts to remove firearms.
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;48545905]Australia's change in gun policy had literally zero effect on its violent crime rates. No extra lives were saved because of their efforts to remove firearms.[/QUOTE]
It had been decreasing at a steady rate prior to the ban and continued to decrease at the same rate afterward. But they ignore that when I bring it up so I didn't bother this time.
[QUOTE=MisterMooth;48545881]Even with the best checks in place there's going to be crazy people who want to kill others. Easy access to guns doesn't help that at all.[/QUOTE]
So we both agree that guns themselves are not the problem and we both agree that more can be done to keep them out of criminal hands. I don't think a blanket ban on all firearms is the solution because it will punish a fuck ton of people for a crime most could never imagine themselves committing.
[QUOTE=purvisdavid1;48545902]"They're not killing sprees if they're state sponsored" is all I get from this.[/QUOTE]
how did you even assume this from what I said lol?
what the fuck?
I'm done with this thread holy shit there are some real fucking paranoid people here.
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;48545886]this hasnt got shit to do with the argument
how petty[/QUOTE]
He made a stupid argument, I found a good way to take the piss out of it. You want to try to do his job and make a decent one, it'd be impressive if you managed to.
[QUOTE=Kommodore;48545890]for the record perfumly isn't joking he's actually this crazy[/QUOTE]
I'm joking and crazy to be fair
[QUOTE=Big Bang;48545916]how did you even assume this from what I said lol?
what the fuck?
I'm done with this thread holy shit there are some real fucking paranoid people here.[/QUOTE]
:thisthread:
[QUOTE=purvisdavid1;48545628]Holy shit, pot calling the kettle black quite literally.
Weren't you deriding us because of where we come from?[/QUOTE]
[B]where did i make a post deriding an american because he was american[/B]
[QUOTE=Big Bang;48545916]
I'm done with this thread holy shit there are some real fucking paranoid people here.[/QUOTE]
The ones who think perfectly sane, normal gun owners will one day just snap and go on shooting sprees? Yeah, i agree.
[QUOTE=Big Bang;48545916]how did you even assume this from what I said lol?
what the fuck?
I'm done with this thread holy shit there are some real fucking paranoid people here.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, the people saying that anyone with a gun is likely to snap and shoot up a school are pretty damn paranoid.
[QUOTE=Big Bang;48545916]how did you even assume this from what I said lol?
what the fuck?
I'm done with this thread holy shit there are some real fucking paranoid people here.[/QUOTE]
The paranoiacs are the ones who genuinely believe every other human being around them is a stark mad raving lunatic just waiting to get their hands on an evil gun so they can go on a spree - the ones like you.
[QUOTE=kila58;48545810]Not sure if this was posted yet but NSFW:
[video=youtube;M_ZtCP8ncwY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_ZtCP8ncwY[/video][/QUOTE]
wait what the fuck he filmed it and uploaded it?
[QUOTE=Big Bang;48545916]how did you even assume this from what I said lol?
what the fuck?
I'm done with this thread holy shit there are some real fucking paranoid people here.[/QUOTE]
The only paranoid people are you foreigners saying how we should conduct our lives.
i'm gonna assume the reason grenadiac never responded was because he couldn't find it, and it was just him massively projecting, and that you two kneejerked into thinking 'america' was under attack because of a discussion over guns.
[editline]26th August 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=purvisdavid1;48545936]The only paranoid people are you foreigners saying how we should conduct our lives.[/QUOTE]
'you foreigners'
noticing a theme here
[QUOTE=Grenadiac;48545932]The paranoiacs are the ones who genuinely believe every other human being around them is a stark mad raving lunatic just waiting to get their hands on an evil gun so they can go on a spree - the ones like you.[/QUOTE]
isn't that one of the reasons gun owners cite for owning a gun?? isn't it??
[QUOTE=Canary;48545647]Love how gun nuts come swarming in trying to rationalize owning god knows how many guns they have and all they do is spew the same old garbage.
Maybe actually come up with some fresh valid point other than selfishly thinking you have the right to stock up on weapons because they help you justify being some crazy outcast. Lol[/QUOTE]
Do you know how much of an idiot you sound like?
If you think people who own guns are all possible raving lunatics who could snap at any minute, you are paranoid. There are over 100 million gun owners in the US. if even a percent of us were as bad as you think, the US would be much more violent.
[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;48545937]i'm gonna assume the reason grenadiac never responded was because he couldn't find it, and it was just him massively projecting, and that you two kneejerked into thinking 'america' was under attack because of a discussion over guns.[/QUOTE]
I never responded because you think that you can agree with someone who says that without accepting any responsibility for the opinion you obviously hold. You didn't say those exact words but you've been constantly agreeing with multiple others who have in this thread.
[editline]26th August 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=Kommodore;48545940]isn't that one of the reasons gun owners cite for owning a gun?? isn't it??[/QUOTE]
No??? Defense against the odd maniac who might try to pull something isn't the same thing as believing no human being can be trusted with a firearm because everybody's out to get you. And self defense is not even the reason I or most Americans own guns.
[QUOTE=wickedplayer494;48545889][url=http://www.twitter.com/Reuters/status/636581316100784128]@Reuters: [B]"BREAKING: Suspected shooter of TV journalists apprehended, being transported to hospital with life-threatening injuries: VA police"[/B][/url]
Good. But hey, he gets free courtesy protection because the whole nation wants his head on a stick now![/QUOTE]
I hope he survives so we can find out what the hell went wrong with him
[QUOTE=purvisdavid1;48545936]The only paranoid people are you foreigners saying how we should conduct our lives.[/QUOTE]
I wanna empty post this but, here you have it guys! this is what I mean by paranoid, overzealous Americans. here's a prime specimen. this is EXACTLY what I meant.
a complete gun ban would be a logistical nightmare and also would cause revolution too
[QUOTE=Scot;48545933]wait what the fuck he filmed it and uploaded it?[/QUOTE]
Yeah he uploaded the videos to his twitter feed before it was suspended.
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