• Two US TV journalists shot dead on air
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[QUOTE=Coyoteze;48545250]Man, that video gave me a headache... What a disgusting pile of shit. Don't even bother wasting taxpayer money holding this guy in a cell, please.[/QUOTE] What, you think he should be summarily executed? I agree that what he did was absolutely deplorable but from his actions I'd assume he has some mental issues, what he needs is rehabilitation. Killing him, taking revenge and calling it justice, is not the way to go here, it would only serve to cause grief to his family and wouldn't comfort the victims' loved ones in any way. [editline]26th August 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Coyoteze;48545278]Good.[/QUOTE] Look at what I said above, I don't think we should be celebrating this. 3 families are now grieving instead of 2.
[QUOTE=The Chef;48545259]The suspect just killed himself [url=https://twitter.com/WHSVnews/status/636562781005836288]Source[/url][/QUOTE] Good!
If someone kills two people, posts the videos and motives for him doing it, because he lost his job, I think it's going to be quite a bit of rehabilitation also he's dead so... [editline]26th August 2015[/editline] I think what people mean is that it's good he can't hurt anymore people. It's not good-good
Wouldn't distributing his videos be something along the lines of fucking with evidence?
[QUOTE=heyitsdan;48545282]What, you think he should be summarily executed? I agree that what he did was absolutely deplorable but from his actions I'd assume he has some mental issues, [B]what he needs is rehabilitation.[/B] Killing him, taking revenge and calling it justice, is not the way to go here, it would only serve to cause grief to his family and wouldn't comfort the victims' loved ones in any way.[/QUOTE] Pffthhahah, no. I have absolute zero sympathy for people who commit cold-blooded murder like this. [editline]26th August 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Glitchman;48545294]If someone kills two people, posts the videos and motives for him doing it, because he lost his job, I think it's going to be quite a bit of rehabilitation also he's dead so... [editline]26th August 2015[/editline] I think what people mean is that it's good he can't hurt anymore people. It's not good-good[/QUOTE] No, it's good-good. Good riddance.
[QUOTE=Glitchman;48545294]If someone kills two people, posts the videos and motives for him doing it, because he lost his job, I think it's going to be quite a bit of rehabilitation also he's dead so... [editline]26th August 2015[/editline] I think what people mean is that it's good he can't hurt anymore people. It's not good-good[/QUOTE] I posted that before I knew he'd killed himself. Of course it's a good thing that the threat is gone, but his death isn't the best possible outcome. Someone who clearly has mental issues killing themselves isn't something to celebrate, even if they've just murdered 2 others.
I feel like there isn't going to be that much anti gun backlash... What makes you all think there will be?
[QUOTE=heyitsdan;48545282]What, you think he should be summarily executed? I agree that what he did was absolutely deplorable but from his actions I'd assume he has some mental issues, what he needs is rehabilitation. Killing him, taking revenge and calling it justice, is not the way to go here, it would only serve to cause grief to his family and wouldn't comfort the victims' loved ones in any way. [editline]26th August 2015[/editline] Look at what I said above, I don't think we should be celebrating this.[/QUOTE] How do you know what will or won't comfort the victim's family? While I don't agree with the death penalty this whole pure rehabilitation bullshit you kids got a hard on for is ridiculous. He should be locked up for the rest of his life and he can receive mental health care while in prison, there's should be a line with this 'rehabilitation shit' , for minor offenses and others like armed robbery yeah! Rehabilitation sounds like a good idea, but 1st degree pre meditated murder like this deserves no second chance because of how heinous it is. Yes, I know the guy just killed himself though.
I honestly can't stand the rehabilitation people when the person committing crimes right in front of their faces are literally evil. You can salvage rotting apples, rotten apples just need to be pruned.
[QUOTE=Ccharlton;48545217]Because they can be. Just because you shoot someone charging at you does not mean that they will stop running, it would be amazing if you only had to shoot someone once but alas that is not the case and why a knife within 31 feet of you is a scary thing. Second a knife will never jam or misfire if someone gets within stabbing range they now have an advantage. thirdly Kevlar does not protect against knifes, either you get a stab vest or you wear fuck ton heavy ass steel plates. Not to mention how easy it is to conceal a knife and how much more damage quick multiple thrusts with a knife can do. Also you mention that if a person will chrage or throw a knife, why would a citizen a pull a knife out in front of a police officer for any other reason than to be used as a weapon outside of special circumstances of course. After watching the video I can only stress that you should always be aware of your surroundings.[/QUOTE] keyword is can. they [I]can[/I] be just as lethal, doesn't mean they always will. they have a short range and rely entirely on your strength and skill. i get saying that you should be careful and not underestimate someone with a knife, that's completely understandable, but i've hear people here say that they [I]are[/I] just as lethal as a gun when really, if that was always the case then we'd probably be hearing a lot more about mass stabbings than we do about mass shootings
[QUOTE=Coyoteze;48545307]Pffthhahah, no. I have absolute zero sympathy for people who commit cold-blooded murder like this. [editline]26th August 2015[/editline] No, it's good-good. Good riddance.[/QUOTE] He has a family too.
Honestly, I figured he would. No way after those twitter posts and taking the steps to actually video tape the shootings himself that he probably wanted to live. Instead of sitting in jail for the rest of his life, he figured he would take the easy way out.
[QUOTE=Sir Colton;48545318]I feel like there isn't going to be that much anti gun backlash... What makes you all think there will be?[/QUOTE] Why do you say that?
christ I was listening to WTOP's Ask the Governor this morning, live updates on the police pursuit And I had seen the clip that had aired just before getting in the car heading to work usually I just brush off violent gun crimes, but this one really got me shame the coward offed himself, would have loved to see him taken to justice by the end of a service weapon
[QUOTE=dbk21894;48545334]christ I was listening to WTOP's Ask the Governor this morning, live updates on the police pursuit And I had seen the clip that had aired just before getting in the car heading to work usually I just brush off violent gun crimes, but this one really got me shame the coward offed himself, would have loved to see him taken to justice by the end of a service weapon[/QUOTE] Yeah I'm kinda on the fence about him killing himself. Glad this PoS is dead but I'd rather him have gone through the justice system and have a death sentence.
[QUOTE=Sir Colton;48545318]I feel like there isn't going to be that much anti gun backlash... What makes you all think there will be?[/QUOTE] the Governor all but lost his shit when WTOP asked him about gun regulations the state assembly refuses to touch gun regulations in Virginia, even when shoved down their throats by the Governor
[QUOTE=agentfazexx;48545328]Why do you say that?[/QUOTE] It's a standard disgruntled ex-employee murder case, the only reason this is getting attention is because it was filmed live on the air. It happens more than you think, which is a little depressing. Stabbings, arson, ect. Gun control is a factor but it's more about mental health and anger management
[QUOTE=heyitsdan;48545325]He has a family too.[/QUOTE] And that's a shame. A shame that none of them probably knew about this and now they have to live with the knowledge that the person they knew was actually an evil, disgusting piece of shit. And so we're back to square one: An evil scumbag has died after killing two innocent people and filmed himself doing so. Good. Riddance.
[QUOTE=agentfazexx;48544943]Whelp. In places where CCW is allowed, you're equally matched with the criminal with a gun. And crime stats are lower.[/QUOTE] Alright cowboy, I want to see you quick draw on a criminal who already has your ass at gun point. Hint: life is not an action movie, you're going to get shot. Equally armed? Possibly. Equally matched? Not if you're already fucked. The point of CCW is they aren't meant to know you have the gun after all, you're still likely to be a victim.
[QUOTE=Glitchman;48545349]It's a standard disgruntled ex-employee murder case, the only reason this is getting attention is because it was filmed live on the air. It happens more than you think, which is a little depressing. Stabbings, arson, ect. Gun control is a factor but it's more about mental health and anger management[/QUOTE] That's a good point. There will still be backlash though. I think a lot of people in the US are starting to understand that mental health issues are one of the main causes of this, and banning guns and more "gun control" is just utter bullshit and a waste of time. (In this country) [editline]26th August 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=hexpunK;48545355]Alright cowboy, I want to see you quick draw on a criminal who already has your ass at gun point. Hint: life is not an action movie, you're going to get shot. Equally armed? Possibly. Equally matched? Not if you're already fucked. The point of CCW is they aren't meant to know you have the gun after all, you're still likely to be a victim.[/QUOTE] Well, criminals aren't gonna go after people they know are probably armed. So there's that.
I posted my response to this on Twitter and it took 7 entire minutes for someone to disregard the topic entirely and assume I was celebrating a black persons death. [t]http://i.imgur.com/rVPgMul.png[/t] Stay classy.
[QUOTE=InvaderNouga;48545319]How do you know what will or won't comfort the victim's family? While I don't agree with the death penalty this whole pure rehabilitation bullshit you kids got a hard on for is ridiculous. He should be locked up for the rest of his life and he can receive mental health care while in prison, there's should be a line with this 'rehabilitation shit' , for minor offenses and others like armed robbery yeah! Rehabilitation sounds like a good idea, but 1st degree pre meditated murder like this deserves no second chance because of how heinous it is. Yes, I know the guy just killed himself though.[/QUOTE] I don't, that's a fair point. I also don't have a 'hard-on' for rehabilitation, I just think that judging from the evidence we have, it seems that the shooter may have had mental issues. Yes, he SHOULD be locked up, but whilst imprisoned he could be given help. In many ways I agree with you, I just feel a great deal of pity for everyone involved and wish that the immediate reaction of so many wasn't "more death! kill him too!" when there's the possibility of helping rehabilitate the killer. But yes, he's killed himself now, the decision is out of our hands.
[QUOTE=Coyoteze;48545370]I posted my response to this on Twitter and it took 7 entire minutes for someone to disregard the topic entirely and assume I was celebrating a black persons death. [t]http://i.imgur.com/rVPgMul.png[/t] Stay classy.[/QUOTE] Yeah, that happens. I've been called a racist more times than I can count for not liking Obama. Guess what, I hated Bush too. And Clinton.
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[QUOTE=Coyoteze;48545370]I posted my response to this on Twitter and it took 7 entire minutes for someone to disregard the topic entirely and assume I was celebrating a black persons death. [t]http://i.imgur.com/rVPgMul.png[/t] Stay classy.[/QUOTE] This is all becoming too much.
[QUOTE=dbk21894;48545334] shame the coward offed himself, would have loved to see him taken to justice by the end of a service weapon[/QUOTE] if police killed him he woulda become the next martyr for blacklivesmatter
[QUOTE=heyitsdan;48545373]I don't, that's a fair point. I also don't have a 'hard-on' for rehabilitation, I just think that judging from the evidence we have, it seems that the shooter may have had mental issues. Yes, he SHOULD be locked up, but whilst imprisoned he could be given help. In many ways I agree with you, I just feel a great deal of pity for everyone involved and wish that the immediate reaction of so many wasn't "more death! kill him too!" when there's the possibility of helping rehabilitate the killer. But yes, he's killed himself now, the decision is out of our hands.[/QUOTE] I'm not really one for killing people but the more I think about stuff like this the more I realize the resources spent trying to get a murderer to not murder again, would be much better spent assisting poverty stricken and starving innocents, in our country and in others. When you kill someone else you are consciously signing your life away, and if we lived in ultimate abundance I would support full rehabilitation but there are simply more morally sound things to use our resources on.
[QUOTE=Coyoteze;48545354]And that's a shame. A shame that none of them probably knew about this and now they have to live with the knowledge that the person they knew was actually an evil, disgusting piece of shit. And so we're back to square one: An evil scumbag has died after killing two innocent people and filmed himself doing so. Good. Riddance.[/QUOTE] Labelling someone as 'evil' when we know nothing about their mental state or life at all isn't something I'd be quick to do. What he did was evil, absolutely, but imagine what kind of horrible, twisted mindset you'd have to have to go through with something like that - and then willingly kill yourself. It just makes me pity him, he must have been in a dark place. Of course this does absolutely not mean I condone what he did, I'm just trying to say that it's terribly unfortunate that his personal problems led to the deaths of himself and those other 2 innocent people. That doesn't mean he was in essence 'evil'
[QUOTE=-nesto-;48545408]if police killed him he woulda become the next martyr for blacklivesmatter[/QUOTE] He probably killed himself because he was afraid of the evil racist pig bolicemen Blacks would rather die than face prosecution, do you get it now America?!
[QUOTE=Perfumly;48545409]I'm not really one for killing people but the more I think about stuff like this the more I realize the resources spent trying to get a murderer to not murder again, would be much better spent assisting poverty stricken and starving innocents, in our country and in others. When you kill someone else you are consciously signing your life away, and if we lived in ultimate abundance I would support full rehabilitation but there are simply more morally sound things to use our resources on.[/QUOTE] I agree, in an ideal world we'd have the resources to handle all of these things. You're right though, I'm just musing really. It's a shame that we don't have the option to do what's best in every circumstance.
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