Violent Games Legislation Introduced to US Congress
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[QUOTE=rrunyan;39259526]I sincerely hope it passes.
Kids need to stop playing videogames and live their lives.
Dumb me if you want but I wouldn't want my child to end up like you.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, well I'd much rather my kids don't end up like you. It's called responsibility, YOU are responsible for how your kids are raised, not the government. You're the exact kind of parent that is ruining American culture.
[QUOTE=rrunyan;39259526]I sincerely hope it passes.
Kids need to stop playing videogames and live their lives.
Dumb me if you want but I wouldn't want my child to end up like you.[/QUOTE]
While I do agree with the basic contention, you don't seem to understand what makes a child a certain way, it can be a lot of things, video games are something that can shape a person, but at the same time they can very easily NOT shape someone if the parent is active in that child's life or gives them other things to do. That is to say, basically, that playing games in and of itself is not a bad thing, but lazy parents are the main problem in bad/low quality children.
Though, honestly, that isn't to say that kids who play games are even low quality or bad, they're just like any other generation playing games, but their medium is just...well, more in depth overall.
ESRB ratings don't HAVE to be enforced by sellers, it's up to the store policy. Most do follow the ratings and won't sell a rated M game to anyone under 17, but I can see them maybe "slacking off" on teen and under.
I do support them having ratings enforced by law, though. I'm 17 years old, and my generation is on the border line of screwed up and mature. The generations under mine, though, have had too much experience with hip hop, immature behavior, and so on(Not saying this is ALL kids in those generations). Kids that are 14 or under don't need to be playing CoD, BF3, etc. Just my opinion.
So pretty much this guy wants ESRB ratings to become a mandated law like an age limit on tobacco and alcohol?
In america almost every retailer treats ESRB and MPAA ratings as a law anyway. It's rare to fine a shop that doesn't uphold it so seriously it might as well be law.
[QUOTE=wakeboarderCWB;39260031]ESRB ratings don't HAVE to be enforced by sellers, it's up to the store policy. Most do follow the ratings and won't sell a rated M game to anyone under 17, but I can see them maybe "slacking off" on teen and under.
I do support them having ratings enforced by law, though. I'm 17 years old, and my generation is on the border line of screwed up and mature. The generations under mine, though, have had too much experience with hip hop, immature behavior, and so on(Not saying this is ALL kids in those generations). Kids that are 14 or under don't need to be playing CoD, BF3, etc. Just my opinion.[/QUOTE]
This is a ridiculous statement, it is very naive and ignorant to state that your generation is "fuked up", especially because you would have a hard time even having anything to compare it to. Though, in reality, our generation is just about the same level of "fucked up" as any other generation, probably a little better, as is the trend we humans have been having since we started existing (except in like, the dark ages)
too bad parents can just go in and buy it for their kids anyway.
like it's always been.
[QUOTE=Matt-;39259803]lmao, what is wrong with you.
[editline]17th January 2013[/editline]
in fact, what is wrong with ending up like your average Facepunch user, we're not bad; we're generally an intelligent bunch of people who share common interests whether that be gaming or programming or any of the other many topics of discussion here.[/QUOTE]
i don't want my hypothetical kid to be a nerd
[QUOTE=wakeboarderCWB;39260031]ESRB ratings don't HAVE to be enforced by sellers, it's up to the store policy. Most do follow the ratings and won't sell a rated M game to anyone under 17, but I can see them maybe "slacking off" on teen and under.
I do support them having ratings enforced by law, though. I'm 17 years old, and my generation is on the border line of screwed up and mature. The generations under mine, though, have had too much experience with hip hop, immature behavior, and so on(Not saying this is ALL kids in those generations). Kids that are 14 or under don't need to be playing CoD, BF3, etc. Just my opinion.[/QUOTE]
Holy shit, I can't tell if you're racist or have just never stepped outside. Do you really think k that anyone who listens to hip hop is a gangster?
I'm gonna say what everyone else on here has said. Digital Distribution, how will that work? Seriously can someone make a prediction? Because the "Please Enter Your Age" is bypassed easily enough, what would this law make Steam do in the U.S.?
We have movies and TV shows with law enforced ratings, I don't see why video games should be exempt from this
[QUOTE=rrunyan;39259526]I sincerely hope it passes.
Kids need to stop playing videogames and live their lives.
Dumb me if you want but I wouldn't want my child to end up like you.[/QUOTE]
It's called [b] MONITORING YOUR KID[/b].
This would outllaw a bunch of older games that dont have ratings.
I wonder how this applies to arcade games?
The UK had the BBFC rate games, and they did a really good job overall. Simple, familiar as they are same as film certificate and everyone knows what the requirements are to purchase them. Now it's PEGI, which I suppose is a good way to create a universal body, but as it's new it's caused some confusion. We also get away with a lot more content being put on our screens, as long as it's after 9pm, no matter what those who complain to OfCom try to do. No FFC Stalinist approach, and a lot of creative talent.
The main issue is parents being negligent and irresponsible. If they buy an 18+ game for a 16 year old, okay. That's discretion, and good on the parents if you trust you kids.
But if you're getting one for a 12 year old, it's just wrong.
I don't think that playing violent games or watching Tarantino movies (once again a scapegoat now he's got a film on release) affects rational, sensible adults.
But children and the mentally imbalanced are like sponges. They absorb everything and just can't differentiate.
Plus with politicians, video games are the current rock and roll, much like The Rolling Stones turned everyone in the 60's and 70's into rampaging serial killers.
Oh, what..
[QUOTE=Ericson666;39260180]Holy shit, I can't tell if you're racist or have just never stepped outside. Do you really think k that anyone who listens to hip hop is a gangster?[/QUOTE]
Like I said, my opinion was not pointed to all kids. Compared to my brother's/sister's generation(They're 25 and 22), my generation is a lot different. Sure, all generations are different, but a lot of my generation(From what I have experienced) focuses on partying, drugs, and sex. Again, this is just from my area and I am from a nice suburban area in Michigan.
it's not like anyone under the age of 16 would be buying it with their own money anyways, just get the mom to buy it or the tonnes of kiddies who use steam.
[QUOTE=rrunyan;39259526]I sincerely hope it passes.
Kids need to stop playing videogames and live their lives.
Dumb me if you want but I wouldn't want my child to end up like you.[/QUOTE]
end up like you? Who's 'you'? Are you this retarded or did a traumatic anguishing experience happen to you that made you just plain out dumb.
these dang kids blowin on their mortal kombat cartridges.
The ESRB has done quite well without government intervention. Violent crime has steadily decreased as video games have risen.
People are such bitches. You might die the next time you leave your house in a variety of fashions. Get the fuck over it. Stop trying to fuck up the time we do have by passing a bunch of bullshit laws that accomplish absolutely nothing.
Can we go back to blaming D&D for America's problems?
[QUOTE=TurtleeyFP;39259538]I thought you already couldn't sell AO/M games to people under 18 without a fine.[/QUOTE]
It's allowed in the US, but no one stocks AO games which is one of the reasons why just about every game in the US tries to go below AO. Since anything else would kill of it's chances of getting enough sales.
An ESRB reinforcement would actually not be that bad. This piece of legislation doesn't seem really bad tbh.
[QUOTE=Reds;39260649]Can we go back to blaming D&D for America's problems?[/QUOTE]
ground your children if you find an abundance of pencils and paper in their room
[QUOTE=Reds;39260649]Can we go back to blaming D&D for America's problems?[/QUOTE]
D&D was harmless. It was the goddamn kids making it bad.
Well it looks like this probably only effects PHYSICAL copies only, and start decreasing the casual gamer base.
[QUOTE=lolo;39261477]Well it looks like this probably only effects PHYSICAL copies only, and start decreasing the casual gamer base.[/QUOTE]
actual you can expect it to have an impact on digital sales very quickly. With age verification over debit and or CCs to show up very quickly to enforce it.
The only AO title I've ever heard of is GTA:SA when it was rated that during the Hot Coffee controversy.
Being an adult, this doesn't really affect me that much.
[QUOTE=JesterUK;39259581]RIP Activision[/QUOTE]
It's not like Activision is the only one that sells M rated games to people under 17. This would impact most large publishers.
[QUOTE=wakeboarderCWB;39260524]Like I said, my opinion was not pointed to all kids. Compared to my brother's/sister's generation(They're 25 and 22), my generation is a lot different. Sure, all generations are different, but a lot of my generation(From what I have experienced) focuses on partying, drugs, and sex. Again, this is just from my area and I am from a nice suburban area in Michigan.[/QUOTE]
Hey man, remember the Hippy Generation, peace, love (sex), and drugs?
Yeah. I wonder if those are our parents.
There is seriously no way I can really word the amazement I feel at this new law.
[QUOTE=Persecution;39259533]I expected a republican would've done something this retarded.
Surprised.[/QUOTE]
YEAH
PRAISE OBAMA
[QUOTE=wakeboarderCWB;39260031]ESRB ratings don't HAVE to be enforced by sellers, it's up to the store policy. Most do follow the ratings and won't sell a rated M game to anyone under 17, but I can see them maybe "slacking off" on teen and under.
I do support them having ratings enforced by law, though. I'm 17 years old, and my generation is on the border line of screwed up and mature. The generations under mine, though, have had too much experience with hip hop, immature behavior, and so on(Not saying this is ALL kids in those generations). Kids that are 14 or under don't need to be playing CoD, BF3, etc. Just my opinion.[/QUOTE]
I started playing halo when I was 6 and I'm fine
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