First time I've been excited for a game in a long time. Can't wait for E3! :v:
[QUOTE=SouthParkMGT;47869086]Hoo-fucking-ray, looks like Beth is using a new engine. About time they ditched Gamebryo.
Also it won't be like F3 where the Wasteland looked like bombs fell yesterday, not 200 years ago. Double win.[/QUOTE]
It's Creation Engine. Which is good. Means they don't have to spend three fourths of the dev cycle on graphics like so many game devs do these days. Frees up resources to make the game good. I'd happily play a game that looked like Skyrim and hooked me the way New Vegas has(Currently 1808 hours played according to Steam).
Well, I'm actually a bit surprised as I expected another "Brown in Brown: The journey through repeating assets" but this seems to offer a much needed variety to the wastelands.
[QUOTE=paul simon;47869499]You'd prefer games to be without LODs?[/QUOTE]
You mean you dont want to play at 2 frames per second?
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;47869341]Might have been impressive ~5 years ago, but Bethesda games have never really been at the forefront technically.[/QUOTE]
I remember Oblivion was mind blowing back then, all those speedtrees.
Well if it actually is Creation Engine again, it looks like it's been combined with some performance ENB config.
[QUOTE=Dr. Evilcop;47869307]Graphics were pretty poor compared to other triple A games that launched this year/last year.[/QUOTE]
yeah but way bigger world! and maybe even vehicles...you have to sacrifice graphics to get more content
[QUOTE=arimi;47869678]yeah but way bigger world! and maybe even vehicles...you have to sacrifice graphics to get more content[/QUOTE]
No, its 2015. We can manage both, just look at GTA V.
[QUOTE=-n3o-;47869695]No, its 2015. We can manage both, just look at GTA V.[/QUOTE]
GTAV isn't a huge RPG though.
Animations look stiff and it looks like gamebryo. Bethesda... Bethesda never changes.
[QUOTE=simkas;47869707]GTAV isn't a huge RPG though.[/QUOTE]
I'd have to disagree, just because GTA V isn't a RPG, doesn't mean anything. Look at the wticher. But, back to Fallout. We've only seen this one trailer, hopefully we can get some live gameplay at E3.
[QUOTE=paul simon;47869499]You'd prefer games to be without LODs?[/QUOTE]
You are doing something terribly wrong if you can notice the LOD's without trying to focus on them
[QUOTE=Sally;47869779]You are doing something terribly wrong if you can notice the LOD's without trying to focus on them[/QUOTE]
And I can't really said I noticed them after watching the trailer the first time.
Maybe I will the second time, but then it's because I am focusing on them.
don't give a shit about graphics or engine, holy shit i'm hyped
[QUOTE=Dr. Evilcop;47869307]Graphics were pretty poor compared to other triple A games that launched this year/last year.[/QUOTE]
Honestly, its still a huge improvement and nice to look at. No need to melt a nigga's gpu.
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;47869341]Might have been impressive ~5 years ago, but Bethesda games have never really been at the forefront technically.[/QUOTE]
ok
but what forefronts have they been at in the past decade exactly?
[QUOTE=AJisAwesome15;47869824]don't give a shit about graphics or engine, holy shit i'm hyped[/QUOTE]
I give a crap about engine because I'd love to see a super-large game world and the inclusion of vehicles that do things.
New Vegas was supposed to have CL riding around on motor chariots and NCR with convoys.
If it wasn't for the power armor and Vault suit, I would have never thought this was a Fallout game.
[QUOTE=UnidentifiedFlyingTard;47869866]If it wasn't for the power armor and Vault suit, I would have never thought this was a Fallout game.[/QUOTE]
Given the location (commowealth, near the institute) I guess it's somewhat excusable. A least bethesda is setting their own canon now rather than messing with Fallout 1/2 lore.
I'll set aside any standing grievances as long as the game has good RPG mechanics. If they pull another skyrim with this game I'll probably just sit it out until it's on sale on steam a year later.
If I hear the phrase "SPECIAL was redundant..." :tinfoil:
i really did wish they went back to the fallout 1/2 lore though, i mean they kinda did in new vegas but
Bethesda would butcher it
I mean they managed to fuck up and retcon the Fallout canon from the other side of the united states, without even setting foot anywhere near the southwest
(posted this in the other thread. why do we have two?)
So obviously gamebryo engine it's not even funny
That said (and I had this opinion about Skyrim too) they've got some top notch artists working for them at least. The art direction is supurb and really saves the game from looking completely dated.
Almost everything though looks exactly on the same technical bar as Skyrim. This makes me worried that we are basically just going to get Fallout 3 in boston. I don't really think that is a good thing when games like Witcher 3 exist now (and to a lesser extent Dragon Age Inquisition and GTAV).
All of the massive issues and 2000-era technology constraints gamebryo brings just makes for a bug filled, awkwardly animating, and highly constrained open world experience that IMO isn't nearly as excusable in this day and age. Bethesda always got away with it before because nobody were making games like they were so there was nobody doing anything better. That isn't the case anymore. They've gotten lazy in that their games really haven't been improving all that much as time goes on and at the same time still insist on sticking with (essentially) a 13-year old engine. Not even valve has gone that long with Source (which was designed in-house to be modular and easy to improve) and Source 2 is right around the corner.
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;47869341]Might have been impressive ~5 years ago, but Bethesda games have never really been at the forefront technically.[/QUOTE]
Oblivion looked pretty damn good for its time. And it was a launch title for the 360/ps3
Another Bethesda game to be disappointed in.
[QUOTE=LegndNikko;47869428]People raved about Skyrim and how good it was able to look when it came out.[/QUOTE]
Not entirely accurate, but Skyrim did look pretty decent for its time. It was still dated compared to games like Witcher 2 though, and it had all the classic gamebryo constraints (tiny towns, tiny NPC counts, crash heavy under any kind of load, etc).
The problem is that Fallout 4 looks basically on the same technical bar as Skyrim. That isn't a good thing when Skyrim is almost 4 years old now, and people were [I]really[/I] starting to get annoyed by all the limitations and quirks of their engine at that point.
One good thing about Gamebryo is that my shitty ass PC will be able to run it! Hooray!
[QUOTE=AJisAwesome15;47869824]don't give a shit about graphics or engine, holy shit i'm hyped[/QUOTE]
Visually I think it looks good enough.
I care about the engine though (and the visuals heavily imply it is the same engine at 2011's Skyrim), because that is gonna limit things so much if they are still stuck on the same engine. I'm looking forward repeating tileset dungeons, interiors still having separate load screens, small towns with tiny NPC counts (at least this makes much more sense in Fallout than it does elderscrolls), a ton of crashes and other odd bugs, poor animations, etc.
I just don't think that is really gonna be that excusable anymore now that they (finally) actually have people doing open world games better than them.
[QUOTE=hypno-toad;47869956]Bethesda would butcher it
I mean they managed to fuck up and retcon the Fallout canon from the other side of the united states, without even setting foot anywhere near the southwest[/QUOTE]
I haven't played the original games, what did they ruin?
It looks fantastic imo, a nice consistent visual style with an actual color palette goes much farther than stuff like ubersampling and hbao+ imo.
[QUOTE=AJisAwesome15;47869824]don't give a shit about graphics or engine, holy shit i'm hyped[/QUOTE]
[img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/vEYUozV.png[/img_thumb]
Sums it up for me.
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/8bBIfFal.jpg[/IMG]
People are so in denial, they're comparing it to a 90's CGI cutscene as if that's a good thing.
[QUOTE=Grindigo;47870043][img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/vEYUozV.png[/img_thumb]
Sums it up for me.[/QUOTE]
because everyone represents everyone else
[editline]3rd June 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=Dr. Evilcop;47870063][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/8bBIfFal.jpg[/IMG]
People are so in denial, they're comparing it to a 90's CGI cutscene as if that's a good thing.[/QUOTE]
you're missing the point being made
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