• Rockstar: "future updates may not be possible on last generation hardware"
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[QUOTE=Wootman;46761548]Use your brain and guess what I'm hinting at[/QUOTE] So we should pirate the operating system and use the money we saved to buy a component that will make the system consume more power and in turn run warmer while not providing any actual benefits, great idea I wouldn't have used the money to add anything to it, instead it would just be a really good 200 dollar system [editline]21st December 2014[/editline] you're right though, why pay for anything? Let's just steal the machine instead [editline]21st December 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=J!NX;46763552] I'm actually kind of surprised it isn't backwards compatible. I'm guessing it's hardware? [/QUOTE] Yes, the 360 isn't based on X86-64 And the reason why the early revisions of the PS3 were backwards-compatible was because they had Playstation 2's integrated into them
[QUOTE=Moustacheman;46758826]Not all of us are greasy, fat NEETs sitting in mum's basement saving up all of our birthday money from nan to spend it on video games. Some of us have jobs, and girlfriends, and pets, and adopted children, and other such things that we need to take care of. [editline]20th December 2014[/editline] That's my excuse.[/QUOTE] To be fair, for 8 years all you'd need is like 5 dollars a month saved away. v:v:v [editline]21st December 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Wootman;46761219]I only use Linux :)[/QUOTE] [t]http://i.imgur.com/eAQ7lVf.png[/t] ?
The first few pages of this thread are pretty much the equivalent of r/pcmasterrace
[QUOTE=Rixxz2;46763587]So we should pirate the operating system and use the money we saved to buy a component that will make the system consume more power and in turn run warmer while not providing any actual benefits, great idea I wouldn't have used the money to add anything to it, instead it would just be a really good 200 dollar system[/QUOTE] I think he is hinting at Linux.
[QUOTE=gokiyono;46763995]I think he is hinting at Linux.[/QUOTE] If you want to use the Office products, you're fucked, though. Open Office isn't all that great (I'm also fairly certain he's hinting at piracy, huhuhuh linux distributions)
[QUOTE=Rixxz2;46764308]If you want to use the Office products, you're fucked, though. Open Office isn't all that great (I'm also fairly certain he's hinting at piracy, huhuhuh linux distributions)[/QUOTE] What do you mean with that it isn't all that great? I have used it the last couple of months with no problems. (Doing math stuff was certainly pretty pleasant in Libre Office, though I am not much a fan of the icons.) There are also Google's office products that works well. If someone wants a cheap desktop non gaming computer, then something like Kubuntu is pretty good for that.
[QUOTE=itisjuly;46759368]You play hardcore games on your console if you buy this pc.[/QUOTE] Why are you guys rating this post dumb, by the way? Is it really that hard to put things into context? Most people using consoles still need a PC to do other things. They play games on their XB1/PS4, and use a system like that to pay their bills/do work/school related stuff/etc. etc. [editline]21st December 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=gokiyono;46764460]What do you mean with that it isn't all that great? I have used it the last couple of months with no problems. (Doing math stuff was certainly pretty pleasant in Libre Office, though I am not much a fan of the icons.) There are also Google's office products that works well. If someone wants a cheap desktop non gaming computer, then something like Kubuntu is pretty good for that.[/QUOTE] Yeah, you're right, for a simple home system something like Mint/Ubuntu/Elementary OS would work just fine. The company I used to work for tried to use Open Office instead of Office 365 to save some money, though, and it resulted in complete chaos
[QUOTE=Rixxz2;46765860]Yeah, you're right, for a simple home system something like Mint/Ubuntu/Elementary OS would work just fine. The company I used to work for tried to use Open Office instead of Office 365 to save some money, though, and it resulted in complete chaos[/QUOTE] That I would be able to understand considering that there are some annoying differences between the two. And switching from familiar software to something you have to learn could end up taking a bit of time to get used to.
[QUOTE=Sableye;46761761]Pretty clear from this and past slip ups that they got paid massively to 1) release on the last gen, and 2) keep the wraps on the release of the next gen versions as well as the PC one. Basically got paid to release an unfinished game on old hardware before Xmas to sell the consoles[/QUOTE] If you mean "got paid massively" from the huge sales then sure. I really doubt they were being paid by Microsoft or Sony for it, especially since it's pretty obvious them selling on last-gen would have had much more sales anyway thanks to the huge userbase. Them just not announcing next-gen yet just encouraged people to double-dip. They might have gotten pressured by 2k to do it, but it'd be a pretty obvious move anyway I don't think they'd have passed up the chance to do it themselves, especially with all the effort they out into the last-gen versions.
[QUOTE=Jamie1992GSC;46763419]I've never had problems running RDR or GTA V on my PS3. Never played Max Payne 3 on PS3 as I grabbed it on PC. Either way. I'm done with this argument.[/QUOTE] This isn't a matter of opinion and it's not relative to your experiences with the games, RDR/GTAV struggle to maintain 30FPS at 720P Really the only time you're going to be seeing GTAV at 30FPS is when you're in a low density area not doing anything.
[QUOTE=Jamie1992GSC;46763419]I've never had problems running RDR or GTA V on my PS3. Never played Max Payne 3 on PS3 as I grabbed it on PC. Either way. I'm done with this argument.[/QUOTE] You did actually. Your perception is different than others peoples.
[QUOTE=J!NX;46755192]people still use last gen outside of not being able to afford current gen?[/QUOTE] believe it or not people actually play last gen because they have games for it, their friends have it, or they don't want to buy next gen
[QUOTE=Crash155;46782140]believe it or not people actually play last gen because they have games for it, their friends have it, or they don't want to buy next gen[/QUOTE] And that's why people need to be pushed by publishers instead of allowing this "we'll gently ease you off for the next two years with cross generation ports" bullshit that is happening now. It didn't happen with the PS2/Xbox and the PS3/Xbox 360, this is entirely new. From now on, we're going to be having 9/10 year console long generations versus the standard 5-6 that it used to be. I suppose that's a good thing since the first year of this console generation has been a complete waste. Let the reality sink in, we're having AAA titles being developed RIGHT NOW for hardware that Microsoft/Sony chose to work with and manufacture in 2004/2005. The Xbox 360 is the highest selling last generation console and that has 512mb of memory. At some level, the game that you play on your PS4 and your PC is bogged down due to the limitations of the worst platform that is available on.
[QUOTE=Korova;46782539]And that's why people need to be pushed by publishers instead of allowing this "we'll gently ease you off for the next two years with cross generation ports" bullshit that is happening now. It didn't happen with the PS2/Xbox and the PS3/Xbox 360, this is entirely new. From now on, we're going to be having 9/10 year console long generations versus the standard 5-6 that it used to be. I suppose that's a good thing since the first year of this console generation has been a complete waste. Let the reality sink in, we're having AAA titles being developed RIGHT NOW for hardware that Microsoft/Sony chose to work with and manufacture in 2004/2005. The Xbox 360 is the highest selling last generation console and that has 512mb of memory. At some level, the game that you play on your PS4 and your PC is bogged down due to the limitations of the worst platform that is available on.[/QUOTE] Like, I get where you're coming from but maybe the reason there are more cross generation ports is because game devs and publishers acknowledge that people have a lot less money than they did in 2005, and maybe a generation exclusive release wouldn't actually motivate people to buy a whole new console? I know that myself and all of the people I know who play games definitely wouldn't have dropped all that money on a new console just for Ground Zeroes/GTA V or whatever. I've played Ground Zeroes next gen and I don't really give a shit about the difference in performance because I'm not super hardcore into gaming.
[QUOTE=Crash155;46782140]believe it or not people actually play last gen because they have games for it, their friends have it, or they don't want to buy next gen[/QUOTE] I personally don't have it because fuck paying for online when all I play are fighting games every once in a while.
[QUOTE=Coyoteze;46757379]Exclusives. Or in the case of GTA, being able to play it immediately instead of waiting over a year for a PC release.[/QUOTE] Pretty sad that the few legitimate reasons to buy a console over a PC are completely fabricated marketing ploys by the console manufacturers. I'd rather wait and play the mountain of pc exclusive games anybody can release and play daily then cave in to being forced to buy something because of some artificial block. The reason so many shitty practices are getting by in the 'gaming world' is because people can't wait and have zero integrity.
[QUOTE=Del91;46761587]I bought a console so I could game from my couch more comfortably. Yes I know Steam BPM exists, I use it, but it's not perfect yet and some games can be a little awkward[/QUOTE] Hook up your PC to a TV, use a controller, WHOA! Look at that! I can game from my couch as well!
if the new consoles had honest to goodness BC then i would buy one
Being angry that the old consoles MIGHT not get certain updates in the future is ridiculous. The 360 and PS3 are lucky to have had GTA5 at all, and even luckier still that it packs so much in and is able to still work like it's supposed to Producing content for last gen consoles is now either A) A disservice to those with new consoles, since they may as well not have forked out the money for them and/or B) detrimental to the progression of video games since they'll be tailored to work on hardware a decade old Obviously not everyone can afford the new consoles or the new and greatest anything when it first comes out all the time, I know I can't, but why should the industry wait for those who can't. They had a good run. One that lasted too long in my opinion
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[QUOTE=Parakon;46785667]Pretty sad that the few legitimate reasons to buy a console over a PC are completely fabricated marketing ploys by the console manufacturers. I'd rather wait and play the mountain of pc exclusive games anybody can release and play daily then cave in to being forced to buy something because of some artificial block. The reason so many shitty practices are getting by in the 'gaming world' is because people can't wait and have zero integrity.[/QUOTE] Who said console over PC? I have both. I get the best of both worlds.
[QUOTE=Korova;46782539]And that's why people need to be pushed by publishers instead of allowing this "we'll gently ease you off for the next two years with cross generation ports" bullshit that is happening now. [B]It didn't happen with the PS2/Xbox and the PS3/Xbox 360, this is entirely new.[/B] [/QUOTE] Yeah right, PS2 did this a fuckton.
[QUOTE=Bokito;46794270]Yeah right, PS2 did this a fuckton.[/QUOTE] This. It was stupid normal to have PS2 ports of games way into the 360/PS3 generation. Usually it was games that could port well to older hardware, but it happened all the time. Guitar Hero and Rock Band are notable specific examples. All those movie cash in titles. Sports games. There is a reason PS2 games were made up until roughly 2010 ish.
[QUOTE=Telecaster;46757227]why spend $900 on upgrades and a new pc when you can spend $400 on brand new xbox and gta v[/QUOTE] Because: - You can save up big time on games/films/software by pirating and buying at promo(on steam, GOG, humblebundle,desura etc.) instead of premium price. - You can upgrade the hardware cheaply with SSD Harddrives, RAM, adding another Video card etc. as the years go by and game sys specs change - You can make it smaller than a console with a mini-atx case&motherboard, so that you can take it around on vacations or w/e - bigger resolutions, higher AA, fanmade mods for games - If you choose to scrap your old sistem you can still reuse the PSU, case, DVD-R etc. - Easier to fool around with than a console. You can also get into 3dmoddeling, programming, animating etc. perhaps even release a game, all that's needed is a man and a machine. - You don't pay 50$ a month to play multiplayer with PC games(unless they're WOW or other niche games)
[QUOTE=Telecaster;46757227]why spend $900 on upgrades and a new pc when you can spend $400 on brand new xbox and gta v[/QUOTE] Well if all you want to do is GTA then I don't see a problem with your logic But since you can spend $650 for a pretty good PC that you can upgrade when you want with what you want, keeping it up to date and ready to play the latest and greatest, or replace a single part that eventually goes bust, that also does more than just play games, I don't know why you wouldn't go the PC route
[QUOTE=TheTalon;46804705]Well if all you want to do is GTA then I don't see a problem with your logic But since you can spend $650 for a pretty good PC that you can upgrade when you want with what you want, keeping it up to date and ready to play the latest and greatest, or replace a single part that eventually goes bust, that also does more than just play games, I don't know why you wouldn't go the PC route[/QUOTE] A console can also do more than merely play games.
[QUOTE=Demache;46801328]This. It was stupid normal to have PS2 ports of games way into the 360/PS3 generation. Usually it was games that could port well to older hardware, but it happened all the time. Guitar Hero and Rock Band are notable specific examples. All those movie cash in titles. Sports games. There is a reason PS2 games were made up until roughly 2010 ish.[/QUOTE] I agree with your point but not your examples. Can't really compare GTAV coming out for PS3 to Guitar Hero, movie cash ins and sports games.
[QUOTE=Bokito;46794270]Yeah right, PS2 did this a fuckton.[/QUOTE] What AAA title came to previous generation platforms and next generation consoles in 2006? I guess there was King Kong, GUN, Blood Money and Double Agent but the previous generation versions were dumbed down significantly and in some extreme cases (Double Agent) was almost a completely different game.
[QUOTE=TheTalon;46804705]Well if all you want to do is GTA then I don't see a problem with your logic But since you can spend $650 for a pretty good PC that you can upgrade when you want with what you want, keeping it up to date and ready to play the latest and greatest, or replace a single part that eventually goes bust, that also does more than just play games, I don't know why you wouldn't go the PC route[/QUOTE] People like to hook their shit up to the TV and just play on the couch also console exclusives.
Money aside, the last gen consoles have been stretched to their limits, It's a wonder that games like GTAV and The Last of Us run as well as they do and look decent.
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