Alabama Special Election Senate Thread - Dec. 12, 2017. - DOUG JONES WINS -
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I don't know why I have any shred of optimism left, but in any case... don't let us down Alabama. Please.
Please.
[QUOTE=God of Ashes;52965388]I saw this today on twitter and it made me pretty upset
[media]https://twitter.com/vicenews/status/939305085703561218[/media]
like what the hell. this is alabama[/QUOTE]
What a bunch of absolute fucking monkeys. The sheer ignorance and oblivious nature of their attitudes astounds me.
I’ve seen enough. This is absolutely disgusting. This guy is trying to excuse sexual molestation by saying the parents should be thankful that their 14 year old daughter was getting hit on by a district attorney.
What the fuck...
[QUOTE=Extronic;52966670]if roy moore loses i will make a video of me messily eating a burrito bowl shirtless :toxx:[/QUOTE]
Just don't pussy out and end up eating a burrito cake instead
[editline]11th December 2017[/editline]
[QUOTE=Nukedrabbit95;52965842]I have zero faith in my state. Roy Moore could literally steal an infant child from a mother's arms on a live Fox news broadcast, shove his dick down its throat, then bash its head in with a hammer while proclaiming "I hate America, Stalin is my idol, straight people should be forcibly sterilized, allahu akbar!" and he would still only trail by a couple of points.
You can't win against decades of brainwashing, tribalism, and poor education simply by being a reasonable human being.[/QUOTE]
The layers of elitism and denial we see in politics is pretty fucking hilariously scary, and not in a funny way
[QUOTE=Dan The Man;52966305]Who's Jeb? Don't you mean 'JEB!'?
It is interesting to see Frank Luntz criticising conservatives. Is he not a Republican spin doctor who invented the 'Class Warfare' excuse?
I remember when that Republican Senator who drop kicked a journalist won in, I believe, Montana, so I imagine Roy Moore will win. There's no longer any right for the American right to suggest moral superiority on *anything*.[/QUOTE]
I feel as if these elections are just Jimmy Carr's skit on "what is the most offensive joke". We keep searching for the most offensive candidate to [I]not[/I] elect and we just can't find him
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;52966726]I feel as if these elections are just Jimmy Carr's skit on "what is the most offensive joke". We keep searching for the most offensive candidate to [I]not[/I] elect and we just can't find him[/QUOTE]
We should just cut to the chase and elect Jimmy Carr.
[QUOTE=Intoxicated Spy;52965884]Everyone seems to treat political parties like sports teams. They will vote in Moore since "Hes not a democrat" And nothing more.[/QUOTE]
I don't like Roy Moore or Donald Trump, but I sure as hell wouldn't vote for someone who don't supports my beliefs.
Yes, they should be punished but when the only option that wants what I would want are them, of course I would vote for them. It's not about teams - it's about whose ideas and dreams I support. I am not going to vote for someone who would go against my wants and needs in the government, and I'm sure it's the same way as many of these people.
The fact people are getting mad at people voting for him isn't the people's fault, it's the parties fault.
However just because the party sucks doesn't mean that I won't vote for the party supporting my visions.
You guys don't seem to understand it's not about the person - it's about the person's ideals.
[QUOTE=MeepDarknessM;52966761]I don't like Roy Moore or Donald Trump, but I sure as hell wouldn't vote for someone who don't supports my beliefs.
Yes, they should be punished but when the only option that wants what I would want are them, of course I would vote for them. It's not about teams - it's about whose ideas and dreams I support. I am not going to vote for someone who would go against my wants and needs in the government, and I'm sure it's the same way as many of these people.
The fact people are getting mad at people voting for him isn't the people's fault, it's the parties fault.
However just because the party sucks doesn't mean that I won't vote for the party supporting my visions.
You guys don't seem to understand it's not about the person - it's about the person's ideals.[/QUOTE]
And Moore's ideals are about as pure a form of degeneracy as you're likely to find outside of Neo-Nazi groups. What we're saying is that anyone who would vote for Moore is morally bankrupt and ideologically degenerate.
[QUOTE=archangel125;52966765]And Moore's ideals are about as pure a form of degeneracy as you're likely to find outside of Neo-Nazi groups. What we're saying is that anyone who would vote for Moore is morally bankrupt and ideologically degenerate.[/QUOTE]
I'm not saying they are my ideals, I'm saying they are others' ideals. That's why they are voting for him. Not because of what he has done in his private life.
[QUOTE=MeepDarknessM;52966767]I'm not saying they are my ideals, I'm saying they are others' ideals. That's why they are voting for him. Not because of what he has done in his private life.[/QUOTE]
Okay but his ideals are just as disgusting as his actions in his "private life" so~
Can we stop acting like being a sexual predator is something akin to being discovered to have a foot fetish or a deviant art account?, why the fuck would you hand any sort of power to someone morally bankrupt enough to molest young girls?
I get what you are saying, If my local labour MP turned out to be a paedophile I wouldn't instantly go out and vote for the Tories instead- but tbh I'd probably spoil my ballot instead of voting for either, not just blindly vote along party lines.
[QUOTE=MeepDarknessM;52966767]I'm not saying they are my ideals, I'm saying they are others' ideals. That's why they are voting for him. Not because of what he has done in his private life.[/QUOTE]
If child molestation won't dissuade you from voting for someone, you're a fucking awful person. Let alone if you start making excuses for it, like a lot of people have done.
[QUOTE=MeepDarknessM;52966767]I'm not saying they are my ideals, I'm saying they are others' ideals. That's why they are voting for him. Not because of what he has done in his private life.[/QUOTE]
Then protest the vote, demand the party to give another candidate.
Well, at the time of this posting, the poll is perfectly split 50/50. I think that probably sums things up pretty well.
[QUOTE=MeepDarknessM;52966767]I'm not saying they are my ideals, I'm saying they are others' ideals. That's why they are voting for him. Not because of what he has done in his private life.[/QUOTE]
Private ideals influence public ones.
[QUOTE=MeepDarknessM;52966761]I don't like Roy Moore or Donald Trump, but I sure as hell wouldn't vote for someone who don't supports my beliefs.
Yes, they should be punished but when the only option that wants what I would want are them, of course I would vote for them. It's not about teams - it's about whose ideas and dreams I support. I am not going to vote for someone who would go against my wants and needs in the government, and I'm sure it's the same way as many of these people.
The fact people are getting mad at people voting for him isn't the people's fault, it's the parties fault.
However just because the party sucks doesn't mean that I won't vote for the party supporting my visions.
You guys don't seem to understand it's not about the person - it's about the person's ideals.[/QUOTE]
So the fact said person is a child molester who supports the return of fucking slavery is irrelevant to you?
[QUOTE=BuffaloBill;52966827]So the fact said person is a child molester who supports the return of fucking slavery is irrelevant to you?[/QUOTE]
I never said I support anything of his.
You guys act like people who support most of his ideals have a choice in candidates other than him. The only other person they could vote for doesn't support nearly as many ideas they want to see done.
[QUOTE=MeepDarknessM;52966761]I don't like Roy Moore or Donald Trump, but I sure as hell wouldn't vote for someone who don't supports my beliefs.
Yes, they should be punished but when the only option that wants what I would want are them, of course I would vote for them. It's not about teams - it's about whose ideas and dreams I support. I am not going to vote for someone who would go against my wants and needs in the government, and I'm sure it's the same way as many of these people.
The fact people are getting mad at people voting for him isn't the people's fault, it's the parties fault.
However just because the party sucks doesn't mean that I won't vote for the party supporting my visions.
You guys don't seem to understand it's not about the person - it's about the person's ideals.[/QUOTE]
The ideals of sleeping with underaged girls... your logic is not great, mate.
Claiming slavery was good are acceptable ideals?
[QUOTE=MeepDarknessM;52966859]I never said I support anything of his.
You guys act like people who support most of his ideals have a choice in candidates other than him. The only other person they could vote for doesn't support nearly as many ideas they want to see done.[/QUOTE]
One's a child molester, one isn't and tht's the only fucking choice they need to make right now.
[QUOTE=MeepDarknessM;52966859]I never said I support anything of his.
You guys act like people who support most of his ideals have a choice in candidates other than him. The only other person they could vote for doesn't support nearly as many ideas they want to see done.[/QUOTE]
then just don't vote. normally you get bitched when you complain about a representative but didn't vote against them, but i think people would make the exception if your only other choice was a child molester? after all a bad senator might last for years, but your moral lapses will last forever.
[QUOTE=The Rifleman;52966882]One's a child molester, one isn't and tht's the only fucking choice they need to make right now.[/QUOTE]
But the one who isn't is a [i][b]DEMOCRAT[/b][/i] and we all know that's worse than molesting young girls.
[QUOTE=MeepDarknessM;52966767]I'm not saying they are my ideals, I'm saying they are others' ideals. That's why they are voting for him. Not because of what he has done in his private life.[/QUOTE]
Then their ideals are shit that they needed a child molester to be their vanguard.
[QUOTE=SunsetTable;52966924]Then their ideals are shit that they needed a child molester to be their vanguard.[/QUOTE]
They wouldn't vote for a child molester if there was someone who wasn't a child molester supporting their ideas better or the same.
[QUOTE=MeepDarknessM;52966859]I never said I support anything of his.
You guys act like people who support most of his ideals have a choice in candidates other than him. The only other person they could vote for doesn't support nearly as many ideas they want to see done.[/QUOTE]
I didn't say you support it either. The conclusion that can be drawn from your statements is that being a child molester who supports slavery is (largely) irrelevant if several other ideals are the same as yours. That is all I'm saying.
[QUOTE=Craigewan;52966912]But the one who isn't is a [i][b]DEMOCRAT[/b][/i] and we all know that's worse than molesting young girls.[/QUOTE]
So let me ask you a question: What is it about Democrats and their policies that make a child molester more appealing to these people? And I'm not talking about the racist strawman low hanging fruit. Why will the normal everyday people vote for him?
[QUOTE=MeepDarknessM;52966931]They wouldn't vote for a child molester if there was someone who wasn't a child molester supporting their ideas better or the same.[/QUOTE]
Except their ideals are pick and choose, at the very core level they would have to not only accept that Roy Moore could possibly have done all those things and thus is unjustly getting rewards.
These are not people of God, hell in the one video its pointed out many of them don't even go to church regularly. They use their religion and ignorance as a shield so they can avoid voting for [I]the other[/I]. Because the Other doesn't fully believe in what they believe, because the other is not of their kind because the other could do things.
Note the could, which is important, could do things that I don't agree with. I'm putting my own personal morals above the good of the nation, the respect of it and the health of it.
That is what they are seeking and doing, they don't care for this country. They don't even care for God. They're using this all as a poorly thought out defense to avoid voting [B]Democrat.[/B]
[editline]11th December 2017[/editline]
[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;52966940]So let me ask you a question: What is it about Democrats and their policies that make a child molester more appealing to these people? And I'm not talking about the racist strawman low hanging fruit. Why will the normal everyday people vote for him?[/QUOTE]
Best answer I can say is look at the Southern Strategy that Nixon used, and is still used today. I know you want to avoid the racist strawman, but that is the Southern Strategy.
Riling up the closeted racists to vote Republican. Its actually something that Nixon's old election team have repeatedly said sorry for or cited as their biggest regret.
[url]http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/11/fox-news-poll-enthused-democrats-give-jones-lead-over-moore-in-alabama.html[/url]
[quote]Democrat Doug Jones holds a 10-point lead over Republican Roy Moore among likely voters in deep red Alabama.
Greater party loyalty plus higher interest in the election among Democrats combined with more enthusiasm among Jones supporters gives him the advantage in the race to fill the U.S. Senate seat previously held by U.S. Attorney General Jeff Sessions.
That’s according to a Fox News Poll of Alabama voters conducted Thursday through Sunday using traditional polling techniques, including a list-based probability sample with both landlines and cellphones.
Jones receives 50 percent to Moore’s 40 percent, with 1-in-10 undecided (8 percent) or supporting another candidate (2 percent) -- which could make a difference Tuesday. That’s even truer with such an unconventional election with unconventional candidates. [/quote]
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[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;52966940]So let me ask you a question: What is it about Democrats and their policies that make a child molester more appealing to these people? And I'm not talking about the racist strawman low hanging fruit. Why will the normal everyday people vote for him?[/QUOTE]
yeah racists most definitely aren't a thing in the deep south. what a crazy strawman that'd be
I wish the GOP ran that one Marine/Army guy, can’t remember his name. Would just let the nation sleep easy if either won
[QUOTE=Judas;52967011][url]http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/11/fox-news-poll-enthused-democrats-give-jones-lead-over-moore-in-alabama.html[/url]
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I'm wondering if Fox is deliberately skewing their polls towards Jones, to try to energize GOP voters who might otherwise skip, "since of course the Republican is going to win in Alabama". Their results seem to be consistently bluer than everyone else.
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