Large Hadron Collider could be world’s first time machine
148 replies, posted
[url=http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1029484-Quantum-Time-Travel-Experimentally-Shown-%28sort-of%29-Grandfather-Paradox-solved-%28sort-of%29?highlight=]Time travel with single particles has been done before, and it's about as useful in this case as it was then.[/url]
I always read it as "hardon" collider.
[QUOTE=JakeIsWin;28638993]I always read it as "hardon" collider.[/QUOTE]
Avatar fits.
All this fuss over a time machine?
I've had one for ages, it wakes me up in the morning.
[QUOTE=acds;28637054]Maybe we'd have a dude inventing shit centuries before everyone else.
Maybe we'd have some guy from the future dividing the waters of the sea making everyone think of divine intervention
Maybe we'd sometimes think we heard voices that aren't there/see things that aren't there but they actually where there, as it was a case of "sending messages" the article is talking about
If someone had come from the future, we wouldn't know. I imagine he'd be smart enough not to go around and tell everyone.
Though if we go by the theory that there is a timeline for every different action (as each time something happens there are infinitely many ways it can go), then there has to be infinitely many that have a time machine that is/has sent people back to our time from the future.
But wouldn't that just end up creating a timeline parallel to ours, exactly identical in every detail except that someone came from the future?[/QUOTE]
Or those damn kids going around abducting people in their fancy VW flying saucers.
This sounds dangerous as shit
no
no
[B]NO[/B]
I don't want this to work
Time travel is one of those things that I get but at the same time am extraordinarily confused by. It essentially takes my brain out of my skull, masturbates with the juice from it, skullfucks my eye sockets, then mashes everything back together somewhat like it once was and calls it gravy.
This, however, I do get. And it is quite frankly nothing short of an astonishing discovery that will undoubtedly influence quantum physics and mechanics for centuries to come.
Shame probably everyone here will have forgotten about it by Friday.
[QUOTE=LunchboxOfDoom;28640236]Time travel is one of those things that I get but at the same time am extraordinarily confused by. It essentially takes my brain out of my skull, masturbates with the juice from it, skullfucks my eye sockets, then mashes everything back together somewhat like it once was and calls it gravy.
This, however, I do get. And it is quite frankly nothing short of an astonishing discovery that will undoubtedly influence quantum physics and mechanics for centuries to come.
Shame probably everyone here will have forgotten about it by Friday.[/QUOTE]
It's hardly a discovery, for now it's just plain theory.
[QUOTE=jaykray;28640276]It's hardly a discovery, for now it's just plain theory.[/QUOTE]
Although, when you're dealing with a field that's for the most part engrossed in "plain theory", it's actually quite a significant emergent one to come forward- thereby making it a discovery in its own right.
[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;28638798][url=http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1029484-Quantum-Time-Travel-Experimentally-Shown-%28sort-of%29-Grandfather-Paradox-solved-%28sort-of%29?highlight=]Time travel with single particles has been done before, and it's about as useful in this case as it was then.[/url][/QUOTE]
So, if these two stories are on the same topic, the reason this supposedly doesn't violate causality because there is no information on whether or not it was sent from the future or past.
I love this kind of stuff. It actually makes me think.
If it works, I wonder how they would experiment with it, go to a certain location and leave a marker maybe? You don't want to just do some huge change without thinking and fuck stuff up.
[QUOTE=J!NX;28636261]Time travel is something we should never get.[/QUOTE]
I think if it made new universes divergent and totally irrelevant to our current it would be fine.
Next Stop - 1985!
[img_thumb]http://www.madwhips.com/upload/images/delorean_done_up_like_the_back_to_the_future_car_1.JPG[/img_thumb]
If it is a new universe, it would be interesting to see how things would have played out, if certain events had never occured or were made worse.
[QUOTE=DinoJesus;28640918]If it is a new universe, it would be interesting to see how things would have played out, if certain events had never occured or were made worse.[/QUOTE]
It would probably be much easier to make universe simulators instead of figuring out how to reach and observe another universe.
[QUOTE=Kinglah Crab;28636079]if time travel ever happened we'd already have seen signs of it (like time traveller dudes walking around 1900 or some shit) so i doubt it[/QUOTE]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZF2T_5L3Z8[/media]
If its another dimension it won't do shit in ours
These Scientists must not have the intelligence most people have. Don't you think if we ever develop time travel that we would know about it? There would be bread crumbs all over our history about things that don't make sense.
[QUOTE=EastBayWilly;28643133]These Scientists must not have the intelligence most people have. Don't you think if we ever develop time travel that we would know about it? There would be bread crumbs all over our history about things that don't make sense.[/QUOTE]
What if only future travel is possible?
[QUOTE=EastBayWilly;28643133]These Scientists must not have the intelligence most people have. Don't you think if we ever develop time travel that we would know about it? There would be bread crumbs all over our history about things that don't make sense.[/QUOTE]
Learn about the multiple universe theories.
[QUOTE=orcywoo6;28643175]What if only future travel is possible?[/QUOTE]
In that case it would be an entirely different story of course. However the scientists seem to believe they may be able to send messages back in time.
Does anyone remember this picture?
[img]http://also.kottke.org/misc/images/time-travel-photo.jpg[/img]
You should also remember how easily it was dismissed.
[editline]16th March 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;28643198]Learn about the multiple universe theories.[/QUOTE]
Doesn't excuse our universe from ever being effected.
[QUOTE=EastBayWilly;28643201]Doesn't excuse our universe from ever being effected.[/QUOTE]
with time travel it does. it creates a new universe and you get to effect that one any way you please without effecting your own.
[QUOTE=OvB;28637145]Even if we can't use this message attachment idea for time travel, could we perhaps use it to send messages to other planets in the Universe instantly? An Intergalactic text message if you will?[/QUOTE]
No answer?
Oh dear god...I had the worst thought imaginable, we must do everything in our power to keep hipsters away from this information. If it gets into their hands just think of the damage they will cause...Historical icons such as Hitler would become ghastly things. Just imagine, reading a history book to read about 'Hipler' and his incredibly tight trousers and how he punished all those who opposed his fashion in concentration camps where they were forced to wear big glasses and pointy shoes all day long! :byodood:
[QUOTE=EastBayWilly;28643201]
Does anyone remember this picture?
[img_thumb]http://also.kottke.org/misc/images/time-travel-photo.jpg[/img_thumb]
You should also remember how easily it was dismissed.
[/QUOTE]
Please, explain.
[QUOTE=Mr.Dounut;28643461]Please, explain.[/QUOTE]
Time-Travelling Bro. The guy with the W shirt.
A person cannot change the past if they found a viable way to time travel.
e.g if a time traveller went back and killed his parents then he would never had existed so he cannot kill his parents as he wouldn't have existed to go back in time to kill them. Therefore when he returns to the future nothing would have changed. That is why if you went back in time you cannot kill Hitler or save the people in the WTC. To put simply if you went back in time you would simply create a branch in time, that would be separate from our time, therefore you would have to go back to when you created the branch in time to return to our time. To make it even more simple, just watch back to the future part II and listen to what doc says to Marty when they're in his abandoned house in the alternate future. So you are not changing our time, your simply making a different time line.
If time travel exists in the future then why have we not seen signs of its existence? Surely they would've gone back to the turning point in technology, unless in our future there is a apocalyptic event that is preventing the future of us from moving forward, meaning the human race no longer exist or all technology as been wiped out.
Of course most likely if time travel exists in the future is hidden form the public and only used by the government.
Unfortunately I've confused myself and I think I've made several contradictions in this post, well at least I tried.
Now to go back in time and stop myself from being born
[editline]17th March 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=geoface;28643617]A person cannot change the past if they found a viable way to time travel.
e.g if a time traveller went back and killed his parents then he would never had existed so he cannot kill his parents as he wouldn't have existed to go back in time to kill them. Therefore when he returns to the future nothing would have changed. That is why if you went back in time you cannot kill Hitler or save the people in the WTC. To put simply if you went back in time you would simply create a branch in time, that would be separate from our time, therefore you would have to go back to when you created the branch in time to return to our time. To make it even more simple, just watch back to the future part II and listen to what doc says to Marty when they're in his abandoned house in the alternate future. So you are not changing our time, your simply making a different time line.
If time travel exists in the future then why have we not seen signs of its existence? Surely they would've gone back to the turning point in technology, unless in our future there is a apocalyptic event that is preventing the future of us from moving forward, meaning the human race no longer exist or all technology as been wiped out.
Of course most likely if time travel exists in the future is hidden form the public and only used by the government.
Unfortunately I've confused myself and I think I've made several contradictions in this post, well at least I tried.[/QUOTE]
That's only under the assumption that past and future events continuously affect each other. The reality is that you'd create an alternate dimension by simply going back to that time period. Thus, if we were to assume time travel in a linear manner, changing anything in the alternate past in which you've travelled to, you would simply go to the (alternate) future that's based on your actions in the past.
So killing your parents in the past would basically let you travel to a future where you never existed.
Sorry, you need to Log In to post a reply to this thread.