• Large Hadron Collider could be world’s first time machine
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[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;28636034]Sending messages to the past is still a violation of causality so I don't see how this avoids paradoxes at all.[/QUOTE] Was about to post this. Was a bit confused as to how receiving a message from the future going, "lol we (future you) just used the LHC to send this message back to you (past us)," wouldn't constitute a violation of causality. If that happened you could decide to be a huge douche bag and not run the damn experiment.
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;28636034]Sending messages to the past is still a violation of causality so I don't see how this avoids paradoxes at all.[/QUOTE] This basically says you wouldn't remember the message and anything you brought (ex paper) wouldn't have been made at that point of time yet. It's a nice theory.
[QUOTE=EastBayWilly;28643133]These Scientists must not have the intelligence most people have. Don't you think if we ever develop time travel that we would know about it? There would be bread crumbs all over our history about things that don't make sense.[/QUOTE] too bad they're smarter than the average person that thinks it's that simple, I too thought that, but it turns out time travel is useless to solving past problems [editline]16th March 2011[/editline] in theory
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In theory, if you go back in time to kill Hitler :godwin:, it will fail, no matter what, bring a gun to shoot him, the gun won't fire, go to stab him, some how you miss or something else.
[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;28643362]with time travel it does. it creates a new universe and you get to effect that one any way you please without effecting your own.[/QUOTE] In theory. Who's to say that someone hasn't already done that to effect ours? We may not have been supposed to exist. But how can it be proven. [editline]16th March 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Mr.Dounut;28643461]Please, explain.[/QUOTE] One man in that picture does not belong. Namely the shirt with what appears to be an M on it. Conspiracy theorists believed he was an actual real life time traveler. It was later proven that his clothes aren't that different from the time, in fact, young people were wearing things like that back then.
How can what be proven? that we can time travel? that would be physics.
[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;28644195]How can what be proven? that we can time travel? that would be physics.[/QUOTE] How can it be proven that our universe was created by another universe tampering with Time Travel. Read please.
the flaw here: if the Higgs singlets(or even the Higgs Boson) are as of yet not discovered, then how exactly do they send messages to the past? they wouldn't have a way to detect them and therefore no way to recieve the message.
If they are discovered in a year that would mean we would be able to send messages to anytime up to that, so we could still travel to the past just not very far (I assume). Anyways, I wonder if we are a alternate universe to the real one :tinfoil:.
wait actually the best part of this we could get messages from the future once we build the device to read this shit.
I would go so far back into time and shoot all the first people with an AK47. Then go back fast enough that I can watch the world be eaten by a tear in the universe.
[QUOTE=EastBayWilly;28644218]How can it be proven that our universe was created by another universe tampering with Time Travel. Read please.[/QUOTE] I dont see what it has to do with your original point but I dont know if or how it could be proven.
[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;28644519]I dont see what it has to do with your original point but I dont know if or how it could be proven.[/QUOTE] yeah, you could argue that time didn't exist before our universe and that you can't really go to before the universe.
[QUOTE=Amplar;28636612]if you want a brain melting paradox, imagine that 10 years from now they are able to send messages back in time and send the LHC team in the present a message on how to send messages through time. :psyduck:[/QUOTE] That means we should be getting a message in Higgs-singlets on how to send messages in time any day now :psyboom:
Well if it is true i am expecting some particle to appear over the next few days from no where
[QUOTE=EzioAuditore;28636185]But we already have a time machine. [img_thumb]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_PWa6ZF6gbAc/TC3-Z1XS_xI/AAAAAAAAAAs/NxmpvipIAUM/s1600-R/the_tardis_whoohoo.jpg[/img_thumb][/QUOTE] Did the people who rated dumb not get the reference? [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TARDIS[/url] also, [url]http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096928/[/url]
[QUOTE=Lexinator;28644876]Well if it is true i am expecting some particle to appear over the next few days from no where[/QUOTE] A series of particles :eng101: Yet how would you see them?
If time travel became a reality during my life I'll shit in my hands and clap.
[QUOTE=Kinglah Crab;28636079]if time travel ever happened we'd already have seen signs of it (like time traveller dudes walking around 1900 or some shit) so i doubt it[/QUOTE] You have absolutely no idea how time travel works
[QUOTE=BANNED USER;28636155]Or, what if time travel is plausible, but on a different plane of reality? Perhaps we have time travelers now, but they can only be observers, and not actually take part in history.[/QUOTE] The way I thought of it was like this Dimension A ||| Dimension B x Future ......|||.....x Future o.................|||.....o o.................|||.....o o.................|||.....o x Present ....|||.....x Present o.................|||.....o o.................|||.....o o.................|||.....o x Past .........|||.....x Past To affect the past, you have to move from the future in dimension A to the past in dimension B. Alterations made in one dimension will never be seen in another dimension. People can only move to the future and past between dimensions, in what would look like an X formation. They could never alter their own dimension. FP broke my ascii chart. Hold on lemme fix.
[QUOTE=Treybuchet;28644265]the flaw here: if the Higgs singlets(or even the Higgs Boson) are as of yet not discovered, then how exactly do they send messages to the past? they wouldn't have a way to detect them and therefore no way to recieve the message.[/QUOTE] That's what I was thinking. Unless I'm not understanding this entirely (which I'm probably not, but I think I get the basics), sending a Higgs Singlet back in time would be like sending a letter written in German to your [uni-lingual] French friend. Forward in time, though, and we would [I]probably[/I] know how to read the things we wrote. (of course, this post could just be the reason i'm not a physicist)
Whenever I read a thread on facepunch about time travel I'm dumbstruck by how naive a lot of people's posts are. I don't pretend to know about the physics of it all, but christ...
[img]http://news.vanderbilt.edu/files/timeTravel685px-650x332.jpg[/img] [B]fuck yeah[/B]
honestly i dont like the branes theory. not because i think its wrong, just that its not as eloquent as some of the other theories out there.
What? This happened several years ago. [editline]17th March 2011[/editline] Oh wait...
Sending messages back in the past? Could that then lead to sending amounts of data back in the past? "Tsunami due to happen on xxx evacuate all coastlines"
[quote=OP article]"-- they might be able to send messages [b]to the past[/b] or future.”[/quote] what.. that cant end.. badly or goodly? i..
[QUOTE=Randdalf;28650127]Sending messages back in the past? Could that then lead to sending amounts of data back in the past? "Tsunami due to happen on xxx evacuate all coastlines"[/QUOTE] If they did that and the other universe reacted to save everyones lives and everything changed. How would it work again? T he universe would have become something else entirely different because of that and any disasters we experience may not be the same for them, or possibly, the message may not even get to the same universe. What if the universe was completely random.
Maybe we went back in time and created ourself, then we were god all the time.
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