• Is this Russia's first gay wedding? Legal loophole allows lesbian couple to marry because one of the
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[QUOTE=gudman;46502944] Not being recognized in a legal field sucks ass. All the legal benefits and access to justice system - just poof!, gone. Why people marry :downs:[/QUOTE] So it's mostly about resolving quarrels about valuebles and who gets to keep the kids?
[QUOTE=MuffinZerg;46503021]So it's mostly about resolving quarrels about valuebles and who gets to keep the kids?[/QUOTE] [b]Even if[/b] it's just that - is there any reason for gays to be denied access to those rights? Like, seriously, it's such a stupid question to ask "why they want to marry". Some of them want, period. And there's no reason to deny them. I may sound hostile, but I'm pretty sure you understand what kind of stupid questions you ask here.
[QUOTE=MuffinZerg;46502723]I don't get why it's so important for gay people to get married. Can't they just live together without telling it to everyone and kicking the hornets nest?[/QUOTE] You mean apart from the vast amount of benefits it provides, and other such reasons? Why is it so important for some people to make sure certain people can't do things, going as far as physically and mentally abusing them simply because they're "~different~ weird and icky" ? Must be pretty interesting to look at the world with the mentality of a 10 year old your entire life
[QUOTE=MuffinZerg;46503021]So it's mostly about resolving quarrels about valuebles and who gets to keep the kids?[/QUOTE] it's about being able to get married if you want to get married. it's the principle of the thing. why should homosexual people be barred from doing something that everyone else can, etc, etc.
[QUOTE=gudman;46503059][b]Even if[/b] it's just that - is there any reason for gays to be denied access to those rights? Like, seriously, it's such a stupid question to ask "why they want to marry". Some of them want, period. And there's no reason to deny them. I may sound hostile, but I'm pretty sure you understand what kind of stupid questions you ask here.[/QUOTE] I see. I was just wondering why would anyone try to find loopholes and make a gay marriage in Russia. I doubt it will help them in any way apart from feeling important (probably).
[QUOTE=MuffinZerg;46503073]I see. I was just wondering why would anyone try to find loopholes and make a gay marriage in Russia. I doubt it will help them in any way apart from feeling important (probably).[/QUOTE] how can someone actually be this ignorant
[QUOTE=Rixxz2;46503067] Must be pretty interesting to look at the world with the mentality of a 10 year old your entire life[/QUOTE] Aren't you showing the 10 year old mentality when assuming that only your position is right and the oposite position is objectively wrong, and assuming I take the oposite position, and insulting me?
[QUOTE=MuffinZerg;46503073]I see. I was just wondering why would anyone try to find loopholes and make a gay marriage in Russia. I doubt it will help them in any way apart from feeling important (probably).[/QUOTE] lmao what the fuck. is the only reason u think they're trying to delude themselves is because they're lgbt individuals?
[QUOTE=MuffinZerg;46502723]I don't get why it's so important for gay people to get married. Can't they just live together without telling it to everyone and kicking the hornets nest?[/QUOTE] man, this mentality is so unbelievable ignorant and stupid So gays should just not tell anyone they're gay, and just hide it? Or how about maybe we recognize them and stop ignorant people from crying foul "BECAUSE ITS EVIL!!!!" imagine being something and having to lie about what you are to people you know on the basis of fear of being harassed and beaten to death. You can't tell anyone your gay or you might be called "[B]FAGGOT[/B]" and told to die, and told that your lifestyle is a disgrace, you're worthless, you're nothing, "KILL YOUSELF YOU FAGGOT", and even the fear of being arrested. That isn't OK at all. No one should have to hide that or be denied rights because they want to blow other dudes. What does that harm? [QUOTE=MuffinZerg;46503073]I see. I was just wondering why would anyone try to find loopholes and make a gay marriage in Russia. I doubt it will help them in any way apart from feeling important (probably).[/QUOTE] you're the reason it's important for gay people to get married. people don't marry to feel important, they marry because they love eachother and also, tax reasons, and being able to visit their loved one in the hospital, and being able to be officially recognized as a couple.
[QUOTE=MuffinZerg;46503084]Aren't you showing the 10 year old mentality when assuming that only your position is right and the oposite position is objectively wrong, and assuming I take the oposite position, and insulting me?[/QUOTE] You're instantly wrong if you think there's any difference between a straight couple and a homosexual couple getting married. Homophobia is ignorance and has no logic whatsoever.
[QUOTE=J!NX;46503093] people don't marry to feel important, they marry because they love eachother and also, tax reasons, and being able to visit their loved one in the hospital, and being able to be officially recognized as a couple.[/QUOTE] It really should be legalised there is no secular reason to carry on denying that.
yes hello i want to get married because i am a special snowflake not because of a symbolic expression of love, not because of the legal benefits and definitely not because i want to stand up for the rights of oppressed minorities, but simply because i want to feel important and get all the attention [editline]yea[/editline] ^insight into the mind of muffinzerg
[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;46503118]It really should be legalised there is no secular reason to carry on denying that.[/QUOTE] yeah but it does make it all the more official not that you have to marry to love someone
[QUOTE=Dr. Gestapo;46503120]yes [b]hello i want to get married because i am a special snowflake not because of a symbolic expression of love, not because of the legal benefits and definitely not because [b]i want to stand up for the rights oppressed minorities[/b], but simply because i want to feel important and get all the attention [editline]yea[/editline] ^insight into the mind of muffinzerg[/QUOTE] Wait you want to get married because you want to stand up for the rights of oppressed minorities? That's misguided :v:
[QUOTE=MuffinZerg;46502723]I don't get why it's so important for gay people to get married. Can't they just live together without telling it to everyone and kicking the hornets nest?[/QUOTE] here's your answer [IMG]https://i.imgur.com/bReDgfo.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=Verzerker34;46503203]here's your answer [IMG]https://i.imgur.com/bReDgfo.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] I'm lost hetrosexual awareness month? Wat
[QUOTE=MuffinZerg;46502723]I don't get why it's so important for gay people to get married. Can't they just live together without telling it to everyone and kicking the hornets nest?[/QUOTE] Not really. A government should officially recognize and register homosexual relationships, for that probably brings more productivity as well.. for your nation. I mean, a country benefits from its homosexual citizens too. When you oppress them by denying certain rights for example, it just makes your country that much less functional.
[QUOTE=MuffinZerg;46503084]assuming that only your position is right and the oposite position is objectively wrong, and assuming I take the oposite position, and insulting me?[/QUOTE] If you assault/discriminate people simply because they're different to you, while not being a threat in any way, you're objectively wrong, sorry. I also never even talked about you in my post [editline]16th November 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=J!NX;46503263]I'm lost hetrosexual awareness month? Wat[/QUOTE] Isn't it self-explanatory? If you're against discrimination, you're obviously a mean mafioso bully. Think about the delicate feelings of the homophobes, they're the real victims here, you're trying to strip them of one of their most beloved rights; to deliver hate and pain to people Not to mention the poor heterosexuals who constantly get murdered by sexual deviants all around the globe
[QUOTE=MuffinZerg;46502723]I don't get why it's so important for gay people to get married. Can't they just live together without telling it to everyone and kicking the hornets nest?[/QUOTE] It's legal stuff and also human rights thing. While I share your opinion, the fact that same sex marriages are banned is wrong. [editline]16th November 2014[/editline] Thing is, my country and its general public won't change its opinions about LGBT in at LEAST 10 years, so anyone LGBT who lives in it needs to either accept it or move out. [editline]16th November 2014[/editline] I want to get off mr. Putin's wild ride
[QUOTE=damnatus;46503522] Thing is, my country and its general public won't change its opinions about LGBT in at LEAST 10 years, so anyone LGBT who lives in it needs to either accept it or move out. [/QUOTE] While I agree with the overall sentiment (public opinion doesn't change in an instant), if concerned people will just accept it - nothing will happen at all. It's a [b]very long[/b] road, but someone have to walk it.
I want to maryy my chair! Why I am denied in my right to be happy?
[QUOTE=DrAkcel;46503635]I want to maryy my chair! Why I am denied in my right to be happy?[/QUOTE] Because your chair isn't a fucking person?
[QUOTE=millan;46502404]You are a really good poster[/QUOTE] says the guy who couldnt read and interpret the facts infront of him muffinzerg and you would make a great couple
[QUOTE=ilikecorn;46503699]Because your chair is an inanimate object. Seriously, is this even an argument? Do people really think this is a reason gays shouldn't get married?[/QUOTE] It's opposite. I want to marry whoever I want, that shouldn't bother others. Woman, man, transgender, dog, chair, AppleID - that's my business, not yours.
[QUOTE=DrAkcel;46503743]dog[/QUOTE] Oh no not again...
[QUOTE=DrAkcel;46503743]It's opposite. I want to marry whoever I want, that shouldn't bother others. Woman, man, transgender, dog, chair, AppleID - that's my business, not yours.[/QUOTE] You can't marry someone or something without consent. [editline]16th November 2014[/editline] So no, you can't marry whoever and whatever you want and why would you want to marry an object or an animal, you probably should be with a therapist. [editline]16th November 2014[/editline] I feel sorry for homosexuals in Russia if this is the mentality you and MuffinZerg hold.
[QUOTE=DrAkcel;46503743]It's opposite. I want to marry whoever I want, that shouldn't bother others. Woman, man, transgender, dog, chair, AppleID - that's my business, not yours.[/QUOTE] lets play "spot the oblivious"
[QUOTE=gudman;46503605]While I agree with the overall sentiment (public opinion doesn't change in an instant), if concerned people will just accept it - nothing will happen at all. It's a [b]very long[/b] road, but someone have to walk it.[/QUOTE] I think its a bigger risk for politicians. Like here, they care more about votes, so they'll get worried If they voice out and then the people don't vote for them.
[QUOTE=DrAkcel;46503743]It's opposite. I want to marry whoever I want, that shouldn't bother others. Woman, man, transgender, dog, chair, AppleID - that's my business, not yours.[/QUOTE] get real - no one will seriously care about your opinions related to stuff like this until you stop making insane comparisons.
in other news, a newly married couple disappeared from their home over night after the front door was hacheted down, nobody knows where they went and the investigation is closed
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