• NHTSA considering all cars required to have a "blackbox" that record all events
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[QUOTE=Mastotron;30116206]And there were no hints of hypotheticals or theoreticals in that statement, just so you know, the terms used illustrate that you're pretty pissed and think I just bend over for the government. [/QUOTE] It was implied when I chose to say that you're actively doing it because you believe that's the only way as opposed to saying that you should do it or enjoy doing it. [editline]29th May 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Mastotron;30116206] [editline]29th May 2011[/editline] 10/10 would derp again. You just confirmed my point knuckle dragger. Well now that I have firmly won this argument in every sense I will take my leave :tiphat:[/QUOTE] How does that prove ANYTHING that you said? The only way you've "won" is by continuing to dismiss points without shooting them down and then saying you won out of nowhere.
[QUOTE=CjienX;30116216]It was implied when I chose to say that you're actively doing it because you believe that's the only way as opposed to saying that you should do it or enjoy doing it.[/QUOTE] in·sult/inˈsəlt/ Verb: Speak to or treat with disrespect or scornful abuse. Noun: A disrespectful or scornfully abusive remark or action. i can't believe the argument has degraded into this. at least Mastotron tried to avoid it. [editline]29th May 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=CjienX;30116216]How does that prove ANYTHING that you said? The only way you've "won" is by continuing to dismiss points without shooting them down and then saying you won out of nowhere.[/QUOTE] Everytime we've provided you with substantial replies to your "points", you've done the same.
[quote]I never said that you could let the government shove a dildo up your ass. I said you allow them to[/quote] [quote]Oh please, stop acting like you're a fucking model person, you're the one that needed to throw direct insults into your argument. [/quote] Oh Gee wiz! Oh God Oh Man :derp:
[QUOTE=DogGunn;30116228]in·sult/inˈsəlt/ Verb: Speak to or treat with disrespect or scornful abuse. Noun: A disrespectful or scornfully abusive remark or action. i can't believe the argument has degraded into this. at least Mastotron tried to avoid it. .[/QUOTE] There's a difference between disrespecting and directly insulting somebody.
[QUOTE=CjienX;30116298]There's a difference between disrespecting and directly insulting somebody.[/QUOTE] So not only do you dispute the NHTSA's expertise and other authorities on this subject, but you dispute the meaning of a dictionary? Am I being trolled?
[QUOTE=DogGunn;30116317]So not only do you dispute the NHTSA's expertise and other authorities on this subject, but you dispute the meaning of a dictionary? Am I being trolled?[/QUOTE] No. There is a difference between this: [quote]Oh please, stop acting like you're a fucking model person, you're the one that needed to throw direct insults into your argument. [/quote] and: [quote]And I'm the one wearing my tinfoil hat operating a pirate radio station talking bout how the man is making pacts with the reptilians to gain superior knowledge on how to control the sheep like masses. I'm done here, if you're gonna be as retarded as a redneck then there's no hope for convincing you that all this is going to do is help people.[/quote] The difference is one is just using a curse to emphasize a point, while the other is directly and blatantly mocking for no reason relevant to the argument other than to just be an asshole.
[QUOTE=CjienX;30116298]There's a difference between disrespecting and directly insulting somebody.[/QUOTE] Yeah there is, and you saying in no uncertain terms, and I quote you here [quote=CjienX][b]I never said that you could let the government shove a dildo up your ass. I said you allow them to[/b] and argue that there's no point in fighting for change because it's hopeless. Way to selectively read[/quote] You are actually abyssmal at debating, I advise you to avoid it at all costs in the future, lest you make yourself look like a tit again.
Even if you're right (which you're not), you've achieved nothing this whole thread. Since page 2, you've been side lining from the contention.
When it comes to a car crash its a rarity not to know all the details within the first 24 hours. There really is no need for this, especially because it will probably increase the cost of the cars and increase the weight added to these cars and give the police another reason to pull you over.
[QUOTE=Mastotron;30116332]Yeah there is, and you saying in no uncertain terms, and I quote you here You are actually abyssmal at debating, I advise you to avoid it at all costs in the future, lest you make yourself look like a tit again.[/QUOTE] And I already countered that. [quote]I never said that you could let the government shove a dildo up your ass. I said you allow them to and argue that there's no point in fighting for change because it's hopeless. Way to selectively read[/quote] [quote]It was implied when I chose to say that you're actively doing it because you believe that's the only way as opposed to saying that you should do it or enjoy doing it.[/quote] Twice. Here, for a third time. Had I been trying to insult you with that, I would have said that you should go shove a government branded dildo up your ass because you're so fucking ignorant that you believe that there's no other way. But I didn't. I worded it in a way that wasn't directly insulting you.
[QUOTE=CjienX;30116329]No. There is a difference between this: and: The difference is one is just using a curse to emphasize a point, while the other is directly and blatantly mocking for no reason relevant to the argument other than to just be an asshole.[/QUOTE] Oh cool! out of context posts I love them! Here's the context. Your government dildo post, post #47 My retaliatory post, post #64 You know, sometimes I just stop debating, and let the good lord work through my finger tips.
[QUOTE=Rombishead;30116351]When it comes to a car crash its a rarity not to know all the details within the first 24 hours.[/QUOTE] However, it is currently a rarity to have exact details like the EDR provides, unless there is an EDR present. [QUOTE=Rombishead;30116351]There really is no need for this, especially because it will probably increase the cost of the cars and increase the weight added[/quote] Nope. It's a device that weighs about 300g max, as all it is a box with a bit of memory. As for cost, you've been absorbing it happily if you bought pretty much any car except for an Audi or Merc in the past 10+ years. This is an EDR. You car probably already has one. [img]http://www.njlawman.com/images/eventdatarecorder.jpg[/img] [QUOTE=Rombishead;30116351]to these cars and give the police another reason to pull you over.[/QUOTE] Restrict access to it if the public believes this will be a problem. Legislate against it. However most modern EDR devices are probably overwritten unless there is a crash triggered.
[QUOTE=CjienX;30116373]And I already countered that. Twice.[/QUOTE] An implication can still be insulting, I could imply that I was inside your mother last night, although I'm pretty awesome so that's not really insulting v:v:v
[QUOTE=Mastotron;30116383]An implication can still be insulting, I could imply that I was inside your mother last night, although I'm pretty awesome so that's not really insulting v:v:v[/QUOTE] don't bother replying.
[QUOTE=DogGunn;30116390]don't bother replying.[/QUOTE] Not sure if you're insinuating I'm a bad poster or that he's not worth the time :raise:
[QUOTE=Mastotron;30116430]Not sure if you're insinuating I'm a bad poster or that he's not worth the time :raise:[/QUOTE] both
[QUOTE=Mastotron;30116430]Not sure if you're insinuating I'm a bad poster or that he's not worth the time :raise:[/QUOTE] Haha, nah, don't bother replying to CjienX. Nothing they've said in the past couple of pages has any relevance. They're just trying to defend their indefensible point haha [editline]29th May 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=CjienX;30116436]both[/QUOTE] :v:
[QUOTE=DogGunn;30116448]Haha, nah, don't bother replying to CjienX. Nothing they've said in the past couple of pages has any relevance. They're just trying to defend their indefensible point haha [editline]29th May 2011[/editline] :v:[/QUOTE] Yeah his last post there was quite interesting, self defammatory now :v: Debating autopilot engaged :pcgaming:
Make it record the last 30 seconds of only "mechanical" data (speed, brake state, etc), make it stop recording data in case of a crash (though that would require some sort of reset mechanism for slight bumps that don't really do any damage. Perhaps resetting it at a local mechanic with a tool that saves reset date and such to prevent data tampering). And allow removal with either owner's consent, warrant or in case of a major or suspicious crash. I really can't see anything wrong with this, except maybe the inconvenience of having to reset the recorder in case of minor events.
[QUOTE=DogGunn;30116448]Haha, nah, don't bother replying to CjienX. Nothing they've said in the past couple of pages has any relevance. They're just trying to defend their indefensible point haha [editline]29th May 2011[/editline] :v:[/QUOTE] Technically if he disagrees with me, he's saying that I'm worth replying to [editline]29th May 2011[/editline] And why am I a plural? Do I have split personalities?
[QUOTE=Murkrow;30116489]Make it record the last 30 seconds of only "mechanical" data (speed, brake state, etc), make it stop recording data in case of a crash (though that would require some sort of reset mechanism for slight bumps that don't really do any damage. Perhaps resetting it at a local mechanic with a tool that saves reset date and such to prevent data tampering). And allow removal with either owner's consent, warrant or in case of a major or suspicious crash. I really can't see anything wrong with this, except maybe the inconvenience of having to reset the recorder in case of minor events.[/QUOTE] No need to reset it just give it a theshold force, for example if it experiences a sharp upward jerk then make sure the threshold is high enough to not stop recording every time you hit a pot hole but low enough that it'll register a crash, or just make it keep all data within a ime frame, including the pot holes and the like, so it can tell if the brakes fail a little way down a road for example.
[QUOTE=CjienX;30116152]Because using the government shoving a theoretic dildo up a theoretical ass as a theoretic argument is directly insulting you.[/QUOTE] This seems to be a recurring theme with you. Do you have something against men sticking dildos up their asses?
I prefer to have an XBOX 360 in my car though
[QUOTE=CjienX;30115343]I don't want to have a blackbox in my new car. I'm paying for my car, it's going to have a negative effect because I'm going to constantly know that it's there even though it doesn't need to be because some asshole with power wants to stick his nose in my business. You seem to forget that it's possible to determine pretty much everything needed to see how fast a car was going etc. based purely on skid mark analyzation.[/QUOTE] Most modern cars already have things like this built into the ECU for the manufacturer to be able to view when it goes into a garage. This isn't some crazy new invention purely for this purpose. [editline]29th May 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Murkrow;30116489]Make it record the last 30 seconds of only "mechanical" data (speed, brake state, etc), make it stop recording data in case of a crash (though that would require some sort of reset mechanism for slight bumps that don't really do any damage. Perhaps resetting it at a local mechanic with a tool that saves reset date and such to prevent data tampering). And allow removal with either owner's consent, warrant or in case of a major or suspicious crash. I really can't see anything wrong with this, except maybe the inconvenience of having to reset the recorder in case of minor events.[/QUOTE] This is pretty much all they do, they only save when a crash is detected (from the limited reading on the internet I have done about them it seems to just be a g sensor)
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