• The End Is Nigh! Stephen Hawkings says mankind won't survive another 1000 years on earth
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[QUOTE=Pierrewithahat;40259506]Ask for volunteers to live on Mars and you'll get them, it's not gonna be difficult to find people who want to be in the vanguard for humanities future. Mars is a shit hole but you can change it, build a small area that can act as a city , shut it off from the outside and start changing the local atmosphere and environment. And no it's not like they can't come back, we're developing better and better methods of getting to Mars every month, it's nothing more than a particularly long cruise, it's completely doable.[/QUOTE] I think the future of the first steps in Martian colonization will include heavy drilling and tunneling. Why spend money to build huge, sealed buildings on Mars when the simple solution of drilling out a home is easy and ever expansive? Just burrow on Mars until the surface is habitable in a few thousand years. (Or sooner, if the tech comes around) [editline]12th April 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=johnsten;40259562]and now we're sacrificing brown people to bank of america, mcdonalds, and dick cheney. and also with more efficiency then those mayans could ever muster up[/QUOTE] Better than a fictitious deity and to make sure the sun will rise tomorrow?
[QUOTE=BrainDeath;40259564]No, it's impossible for the time being - there literally isn't enough money on the entire planet.[/QUOTE]Didn't people say almost the same thing about flying to the Moon and landing on it?
[QUOTE=BrainDeath;40259564]No, it's impossible for the time being - there literally isn't enough money on the entire planet.[/QUOTE] Money is not a finite resource.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;40259573]I think the future of the first steps in Martian colonization will include heavy drilling and tunneling. Why spend money to build huge, sealed buildings on Mars when the simple solution of drilling out a home is easy and ever expansive? Just burrow on Mars until the surface is habitable in a few thousand years. (Or sooner, if the tech comes around) [editline]12th April 2013[/editline] Better than a fictitious deity and to make sure the sun will rise tomorrow?[/QUOTE] I'd argue that making sure the sun rose was a more just cause than any of the above.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;40259508]I'm pretty sure that makes it all the more stupid. [/QUOTE] My point is I would be content dying knowing I was one of the last human beings. Sorry for offending you.
[QUOTE=Killer900;40259587]Didn't people say almost the same thing about flying to the Moon and landing on it?[/QUOTE] No.
[QUOTE=Killer900;40259487]Yeah but the dinosaurs also didn't have nuclear weapons and dirty industry.[/QUOTE] Maybe I'm too optimistic, but it feels to me that we're moving towards a much more safe and brighter future. We've definitely passed the Cold War "nuclear war" behind the corner situation in my opinion. And I think our focus on environment is pretty big. And even if we consider a possible nuclear war, loads of places on this planet is still going to be untouched.
I like how you guys are talking like shipping a million people to Mars is easy.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;40259614]I like how you guys are talking like shipping a million people to Mars is easy.[/QUOTE] One day, it will be.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;40259573]I think the future of the first steps in Martian colonization will include heavy drilling and tunneling. Why spend money to build huge, sealed buildings on Mars when the simple solution of drilling out a home is easy and ever expansive? Just burrow on Mars until the surface is habitable in a few thousand years. (Or sooner, if the tech comes around) [editline]12th April 2013[/editline] Better than a fictitious deity and to make sure the sun will rise tomorrow?[/QUOTE] no because we kill more people for worse reasons not because there's an almighty god that will blow us up but because someone might not get his big fat fuckin' paycheck if those "dirty subhumans" in the middle east don't give up their oil. mayan's didn't kill people for money, they did because they thought they'd all fuckin die. who are the real mongoloids here?
[QUOTE=BrainDeath;40259602]No.[/QUOTE]I'm not to sure about that.
[QUOTE=Swebonny;40259606]Maybe I'm too optimistic, but it feels to me that we're moving towards a much more safe and brighter future. We've definitely passed the Cold War "nuclear war" behind the corner situation in my opinion. And I think our focus on environment is pretty big. And even if we consider a possible nuclear war, loads of places on this planet is still going to be untouched.[/QUOTE] Plenty of places wouldn't get glassed sure. But the atmosphere would be full of invisible radioactive decay products that would probably render most animals incapable of producing fertile offspring. And that's ignoring the possibility of nuclear winter (which may be more fiction than fact)
[QUOTE=-n3o-;40259006]Would be interesting to see what Earth and Human kind is like in 1000 years, even just 100 would be awesome to see.[/QUOTE] Children are just raised and taught to sit at a desk in front of a computer for their whole life
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;40259147]Stephen Hawkings ought to rename himself Hari Seldon, really.[/QUOTE] I love you so much for this reference. Please tell me someone else gets this.
[QUOTE=BrainDeath;40259647]Plenty of places wouldn't get glassed sure. But the atmosphere would be full of invisible radioactive decay products that would probably render most animals incapable of producing viable offspring. And that's ignoring the possibility of nuclear winter (which may be more fiction than fact)[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]Importantly however, despite modern high civilization being at risk, assuming weapons stockpiles at the previous cold war heights, analysts and physicists have found that billions of humans would nevertheless survive a global thermonuclear war[/QUOTE] I took it from here: [URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_holocaust#cite_note-1[/URL] Check the citation notes. The Earth is pretty damn big. I bet the atmosphere is going to be nasty as hell, but not nasty enough for us to vanish.
[QUOTE=Swebonny;40259290]My uneducated thoughts: I think it's pretty hard for widespread species like us to become extinct within just 1000 years. That'd suggest whatever caused the extinction would affect this entire planet to such extent that no society would be able to escape it. Civilizations may fall, the global society we have now may fall, but I think humans are still going to exist within the next 1000 years.[/QUOTE] Now, humanity is in a good place. We have resources, we have technology, we have global communication networks. If another ice age happens, or if we start to run low on fuel and destroy each other in a global war for the last resources, we won't be in much of a position to colonize other planets after that, and will probably never recover fully. Now is the time for action. But society as we know it would have to adopt a different worldview before anyone TAKES action.
Humankind lived from 10,000 years to now. I don't understand.
[QUOTE=Swebonny;40259680]I took it from here: [URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_holocaust#cite_note-1[/URL] Check the citation notes. The Earth is pretty damn big. I bet the atmosphere is going to be nasty as hell, but not nasty enough for us to vanish.[/QUOTE] We'd survive, our children would 'live' but they couldn't reproduce.
I wonder how much progress NASA could make with the Alcubierre drive if money was poured into their research efforts. FTL travel is kind of a big deal.
[QUOTE=-n3o-;40259006]Would be interesting to see what Earth and Human kind is like in 1000 years, even just 100 would be awesome to see.[/QUOTE] In 1000 years according to The Sun [img]http://s3.amazonaws.com/readers/2012/10/07/140451manusia1000ththesun_1.jpg[/img] :tinfoil:
[QUOTE=archangel125;40259693]Now, humanity is in a good place. We have resources, we have technology, we have global communication networks. If another ice age happens, or if we start to run low on fuel and destroy each other in a global war for the last resources, we won't be in much of a position to colonize other planets after that, and will probably never recover fully. Now is the time for action. But society as we know it would have to adopt a different worldview before anyone TAKES action.[/QUOTE] I wouldn't say we would "never recover". We've made it this far from the last ice age. If another hit, we'd definitely would have a head start from left over technologies from last time around.
[QUOTE=archangel125;40259703]I wonder how much progress NASA could make with the Alcubierre drive if money was poured into their research efforts. FTL travel is kind of a big deal.[/QUOTE] Don't put too much hope into that thing.
[QUOTE=archangel125;40259703]I wonder how much progress NASA could make with the Alcubierre drive if money was poured into their research efforts. FTL travel is kind of a big deal.[/QUOTE] An actual warp drive will be the product of a genius's mind if one could ever exist - throwing money at the problem won't make it come any sooner and even if it would - NASA wouldn't be the best people for the job. You'd want universities really.
[QUOTE=archangel125;40259703]I wonder how much progress NASA could make with the Alcubierre drive if money was poured into their research efforts. FTL travel is kind of a big deal.[/QUOTE] Throwing money at science does not directly influence to the success of the studies. [editline]Edited:[/editline] Dawww got ninja'd.
[QUOTE=Swebonny;40259606]Maybe I'm too optimistic, but it feels to me that we're moving towards a much more safe and brighter future. We've definitely passed the Cold War "nuclear war" behind the corner situation in my opinion. And I think our focus on environment is pretty big. And even if we consider a possible nuclear war, loads of places on this planet is still going to be untouched.[/QUOTE]Yeah but the thing I'm not really optimistic about is countries with space agencies that are capable of manned flights lasting long enough for us to send Humans to Mars. Only 4 space agencies have manned spaceflight capability, those being China, ESA (Europe), Russia, and of course NASA, but only 2 of those are capable of landing on another celestial body, and only 1 has actually accomplished it. Now I'm not too sure about the USA lasting another 100 years (but what do I know), and if the United States as a country fails and collapses, NASA would obviously be canned, and that collapse would most likely affect the rest of the world, including China, Europe, and maybe even Russia. And if Russia goes too, or axes their space program, who would take the helm? Private companies maybe, but only the future will let us know.
Why don't we just form the UNSC and collectively throw money at it until something happens.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;40259623]One day, it will be.[/QUOTE] Maybe in a few centuries but still, relocating that many people would be a pain and establishing a society.. even harder.
Reminded me of the image on the cover of Mechanicum in the Horus Heresy series. [img]http://www.blacklibrary.com/Images/Product/DefaultBL/xlarge/poster-mechanicum.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=Pierrewithahat;40259321]You really could just rewrite that sentence and replace humans with dinosaurs. Our technology won't save us in our current form if the shit really hits the fan, having some little enclave of a few thousand people really won't do much good for us, science would pretty much completely stagnate, those people would be missing out on some resource that are completely vital to modern living. The best option is just to get a few million people the fuck off Earth as soon as humanly possible.[/QUOTE] or become birds
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;40259972]Maybe in a few centuries but still, relocating that many people would be a pain and establishing a society.. even harder.[/QUOTE] Society is established automatically wherever groups of humans are. We are a naturally social animal and need social interaction to survive. Thus, society is ingrained in our blood.
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