the start screen is much better than the menu if you put a bit of time into organizing
[QUOTE=RoboChimp;40303696]Can you bring up explorer and control panel without using the windows key or right clicking in two clicks?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=RoboChimp;40303696]Can you bring up explorer and control panel without using the windows key or right clicking in two clicks?[/QUOTE]
Uh, yeah?
[QUOTE=Leather Belt;40303465]Like The Baconator said, it's just the button they're bringing back. It's still going to be the same start screen.[/QUOTE]
Clicking the very edge of the screen was weird anyways, don't know why they didn't leave the button and have it bring you to the new menu from the start..
Oh fucking finally, optional start menu. The realized their poor sales was a direct result of ignoring what their customers wanted.
I actually really prefer Windows 8 over Windows 7 now that I've used it for a while... Although I probably would still be using just Windows 7 if I hadn't gotten it for free for being a "Microsoft Advisor".
[QUOTE=danharibo;40303714]Because if a operating system ever has DLC, they'll have well and truly jumped the shark.[/QUOTE]
It's free. There's literally nothing to complain about. They're giving you more features for free. If they made you pay another $50, sure, it'd be a shitty move. They aren't. It's free. It's adding features that people were complaining that it was missing. It's making the operating system better, for free.
I honestly am baffled as to why people are complaining about 8.1. It fixes a lot of the gripes you had with 8 and it's fucking free. What is there to complain about at all? If you want Microsoft to abandon a few years of design and development because of your own personal preference, too bad. They're giving you the options now. For free.
This is about as ridiculous as bashing Vista after SP2 was released. It has a shitty launch, yeah, but it's a fine OS once you get SP2. This is 8's SP1. Why is this an issue at all.
[QUOTE=MaxOfS2D;40303187][url]http://www.zdnet.com/microsofts-windows-8-plan-blue-bring-back-the-start-button-boot-to-desktop-7000014075/[/url]
Note that this comes from Mary Jo Foley, who's been very well informed about Microsoft's plans in the past...[/QUOTE]
Did you read the article at all? It clearly states start [B]button[/B] and then there's this line:
[QUOTE]It's not 100 percent sure that either/both of these options will be baked into the final Blue release[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=.Isak.;40303816]It's free. There's literally nothing to complain about. They're giving you more features for free. If they made you pay another $50, sure, it'd be a shitty move. They aren't. It's free. It's adding features that people were complaining that it was missing. It's making the operating system better, for free.
I honestly am baffled as to why people are complaining about 8.1. It fixes a lot of the gripes you had with 8 and it's fucking free. What is there to complain about at all? If you want Microsoft to abandon a few years of design and development because of your own personal preference, too bad. They're giving you the options now. For free.
This is about as ridiculous as bashing Vista after SP2 was released. It has a shitty launch, yeah, but it's a fine OS once you get SP2. This is 8's SP1. Why is this an issue at all.[/QUOTE]
I am not complaining about Windows 8.1
I have no preferences regarding Microsoft's "Design".
"this" isn't an issue.
honestly I think anyone complaining is just trying to find something to whine about. it's functionally the same as the menu and is arguably neater looking
try the os before ragging it
I think Microsoft's failing is marketing Windows 8 and conveying what Metro is and how it's used. Everyone seems so tabletphobic that they just see it and begin to scream when if they actually tried Windows 88 they'd see that it's pretty much Windows 7 with some minor upgrades and Metro is very unobtrusive.
metro is not unobtrusive if you need to move your hands off the keyboard to open a program
Where does it say they're bringing the Start Menu back? All it says it that [I]reputable anonymous insider sources[/I] (translation: [I]aw yeah give me some of that ad money[/I]) say they're testing a build with a boot-to-desktop mode and the Start Button.
it's [I]sensationalist[/I] headlines, not [I]literally wrong and untrue[/I] headlines, Max
[QUOTE=Take_Opal;40303967]I think Microsoft's failing is marketing Windows 8 and conveying what Metro is and how it's used. Everyone seems so tabletphobic that they just see it and begin to scream when if they actually tried Windows 88 they'd see that it's pretty much Windows 7 with some minor upgrades and Metro is very unobtrusive.[/QUOTE]
I remember back when it first came out, everyone was seriously flipping shit. A few people actually thought that you could only login through Windows Live and there were no desktop functionality (in the x86/x64 versions). I'm sure many people have legitimate beefs with Metro and 8, but it makes me wonder how many of them are actual complaints from using it, or misunderstandings about something they read in some news article.
[QUOTE=Demache;40304010]I remember back when it first came out, everyone was seriously flipping shit. A few people actually thought that you could only login through Windows Live and there were no desktop functionality (in the x86/x64 versions). I'm sure many people have legitimate beefs with Metro, but it makes me wonder how many of them are actual complaints from using it, or misunderstandings about something they read in some news article.[/QUOTE]
This is exactly it. People read the news and circlejerk about how bad it will be. Anyone who's ever used it will say that it's not bad at all. It's bearable, if not better, than Windows 7. It's just the same crowd that latched on to XP for a decade.
[QUOTE=Take_Opal;40303967]I think Microsoft's failing is marketing Windows 8 and conveying what Metro is and how it's used. Everyone seems so tabletphobic that they just see it and begin to scream when if they actually tried Windows 88 they'd see that it's pretty much Windows 7 with some minor upgrades and Metro is very unobtrusive.[/QUOTE]
Some people are just not liking Metro, it's all down to personal taste.
[QUOTE=cueballv2themax;40304007]metro is not unobtrusive if you need to move your hands off the keyboard to open a program[/QUOTE]
I never have to move my hands off the keyboard to open a program though
[QUOTE=Coffee;40304042]Some people are just not liking Metro, it's all down to personal taste.[/QUOTE]
I'd agree, but the anti-Metro folk seem to be hellbent on proving to everyone else that Windows 8 is going to be the end of Microsoft.
If it was personal taste, they'd say "Oh I don't like the style" and go on with their day on whatever OS they prefer. Instead they're acting like liking it is promoting the downfall of all other operating systems. They're a bit overzealous for their own personal tastes, I guess.
[QUOTE=cueballv2themax;40304007]metro is not unobtrusive if you need to move your hands off the keyboard to open a program[/QUOTE]
you don't neec to move your hands off at all though
[QUOTE=No Party Hats;40304115]you don't neec to move your hands off at all though[/QUOTE]
from my (albeit limited) experience of metro, how do you do it?
[QUOTE=cueballv2themax;40304007]metro is not unobtrusive if you need to move your hands off the keyboard to open a program[/QUOTE]
...you don't though? If you're really anal about not letting go of the keyboard (as in you don't want to use the touchscreen or mouse or trackball or whatever) you can just press the windows key and start typing, it'll search every program and control panel function and you can just narrow it down by writing more or select it off the instant-search list with the arrow keys ([B]exactly [/B]like the start menu search works in windows 7)
Awesome, but I'm not keeping my hopes up as it isn't the final decision.
I'd still buy Windows 8.1 though
can I disable it if I dont want it, I actually dont mind just clicking the bottom left corner
Maybe there's light at the end of the tunnel for Microsoft :)
more taskbar space too
[QUOTE=latin_geek;40304159]...you don't though? If you're really anal about not letting go of the keyboard (as in you don't want to use the touchscreen or mouse or trackball or whatever) you can just press the windows key and start typing, it'll search every program and control panel function and you can just narrow it down by writing more or select it off the instant-search list with the arrow keys ([B]exactly [/B]like the start menu search works in windows 7)[/QUOTE]
fucking yaldi, is it pretty much instant?
[QUOTE=cueballv2themax;40304184]fucking [b]yaldi[/b], is it pretty much instant?[/QUOTE]
Bless you
um I've read these stories and YES there may be an option to boot directly to the desktop rather than the start screen (from which the desktop is a click away) but there is NO indication that they're bringing back the actual start menu. both the article and the thread title are sensationalizing this
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