I think its fair...I get called cracker all the time...or even worse..honkey. Not worse as in hurtful but worse as in, how the fuck are those insults.
To me, nigger isn't a term for black people, it's a term for a person's lifestyle, like emo or goth.
I admit, a majority of the people I classify as niggers are black, but IT IS NOT BECAUSE THEY ARE BLACK. I've seen plenty of Latinos and white people that act (hope this is the right word) niggerly. Haven't you ever heard of wiggers?
Allow me to assist with a visual aid.
Black man:
[img_thumb]http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s297/Chris122990/MLK2-754979.jpg[/img_thumb]
Nigger:
[img_thumb]http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s297/Chris122990/nas1.jpg[/img_thumb]
White man:
[img_thumb]http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s297/Chris122990/nathan-fillion-castle.jpg[/img_thumb]
Wigger(s):
[img_thumb]http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s297/Chris122990/wigger.jpg[/img_thumb]
There, I've now said my piece.
[QUOTE=Cluckyx;23966319]It's a mutation of the Spanish Negro. Read page 1.[/QUOTE]
+1. Also:
[QUOTE=Wikipedia]The word [B]Negro[/B] is used in the English-speaking world to refer to a person of black ancestry or appearance, whether of African descent or not, prior to the shift in the lexicon of American and worldwide classification of race and ethnicity in the late 1960s. The word "negro" means "black" in Spanish and Portuguese, from the Latin [i]niger[/i] ("black") and Greek [i]Νέγρος Négros[/i] ("black"). [u]The usage was accepted as normal, even by people classified as Negroes, until the Civil Rights movement.[/u]
During the American Civil Rights movement of the 1950s and 1960s, some African American leaders in the United States objected to the word, preferring [i]Black[/i], because they associated the word Negro with the long history of slavery, segregation, and discrimination that treated African Americans as second class citizens, or worse. During the 1960s [i]Negro[/i] became considered to be a so-called "ethnic slur".[/QUOTE]
Anyhow, over here in South America, we hardly consider demeaning the word "negro", [U]unless[/U] it's used as an insult, in which case it may or may not affect you, depending on how thick your skin is :P
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[QUOTE=Swilly;23966328]I think its fair...I get called cracker all the time...or even worse..honkey. Not worse as in hurtful but worse as in, how the fuck are those insults.[/QUOTE]
Honkey?? Never heard that one
I don't think words should have as much importance as they do in most society. I think what matters is the overall meaning. I don't even understand why there are swear words.
[QUOTE=flippy645;23964930]hmm maybe we can stop banning people for saying the n word[/QUOTE]
People who don't use it in a racist context usually are not banned from what I've seen.
nigger has never been offensive where I live. It's like on big adverts and academical books and on telly and shit. Offical word for black. If they change that to racist here, I swear to god I will kill someone for being ludriculously idiot.
[QUOTE=Mobzor;23960061]That source sure doesn't look reliable.
What news source would write that in their articles?
Besides, as far as I know, the term "nigger" is just slang for black right?[/QUOTE]
Slang for black slave actually. It's funny really, all those blacks get offended when someone else calls them the N word but they are free to call each other black slaves all they want. There's a difference with taking it back and taking advantage. Now a days the word doesn't even have meaning it's used to much.
I wish I could do that.
[QUOTE=DienDwemar;23960058]It's about time they got over it.[/QUOTE]
woooaaaAHH
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As a wise boondocks character once said, "nigger means ignorant motherfucker, so any race can be a nigger"
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"There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know we don't know. "
People who use the term nigger offensively are just as bad as people who get offended by it each time it's said.
So long story short - yes, it's offensive. I don't care what that judge said. But you don't have to bitch every time you're offended either.
snap
If you're advocating for the desensitisation of the term "nigger" for black, start using it as an adjective, like so:
"I'm wearing a nigger-coloured shirt"
There's no better way to neutralize the term than to start applying it to things as a purely objective quality.
[QUOTE=ThePuska;23967545]If you're advocating for the desensitisation of the term "nigger" for black, start using it as an adjective, like so:
"I'm wearing a nigger-coloured shirt"
There's no better way to neutralize the term than to start applying it to things as a purely objective quality.[/QUOTE]
In Spanish we use it like that all the time so it pretty much lost its derogatory effect
Same goes for "chino" ("chink" in english)... chink convenience store, chink drugstore, chink clerk, chink noodles, etc...
I don't know why, but I have always been amused by the term "sandnigger".
[QUOTE=Mobzor;23960061]That source sure doesn't look reliable.[/QUOTE]
It's a local news site, idiot. Ever seen them before?
[QUOTE=Mobzor;23960738]Well it's not, besides the amount of black people that throw the word around proves it's not offensive.
The only people that do find it offensive are the do-gooders or as you Americans call them "Soccer moms"[/QUOTE]
It's different if thye call themselves it. That's an advantage of being an oppressed race.
Also are you black?
If not then how can you say it's not offencive ?
you fucknuts need to watch more George Carlin.
What a niggardly decision.
My solution to the word nigger: say it until everyone's over it. Just keep saying it until no man or woman is offended by it anymore and they realize that it's just a word, and the idiots that DO use it as a slur realize how fucking dumb they are. I'll begin.
nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger
Why couldn't this have happened 7 days ago!
[QUOTE=Swilly;23966328]I think its fair...I get called cracker all the time...or even worse..honkey. Not worse as in hurtful but worse as in, how the fuck are those insults.[/QUOTE]
if you dont think they are insults than what are you complaining about ?
[QUOTE=JDK721;23960691]ITT: white suburban kids agree that the n word is NOT offensive[/QUOTE]
Sticks and stones will break my bones but words will never hurt me. :smug:
[QUOTE=JDK721;23960691]ITT: white suburban kids agree that the n word is NOT offensive[/QUOTE]
Any word can be be interpreted as, or as not offensive. Amongst gangsta culture, "nigga" is the equivalent of calling someone "dude" or "friend". Pretty much all other cultures take it as an offensive term, though. Even muttering it is considered offensive. In some countries, certain gestures and behaviors are considered rude or even offensive.
If you ask me, all racial slurs shouldn't be labeled as offensive to even mutter, but regarded like any other word like fuck, shit, cunt, ass, hell, etc.
[QUOTE=Soobax;23968552]It's different if thye call themselves it. That's an advantage of being an oppressed race.
Also are you black?
If not then how can you say it's not offencive ?[/QUOTE]
Because no single word should be offensive. What kind of offensive statement can be made with one word? It's the context that a word is used that matters.
michael eric dyson is the king in all n-word junk
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T62PysJizXs[/media]
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[QUOTE=Computermaster;23966551]To me, nigger isn't a term for black people, it's a term for a person's lifestyle, like emo or goth.
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you can't redefine words
either way you discriminate using a historically offense term, nobody gives a shit about your own personal definition because it doesn't mean anything
As nice as it would be for it not to be offensive, it is to some people. You can't just ignore those who do find it offensive.
you guys are dumber than i thought if you really think nigger or sandnigger isn't an offensive term
[QUOTE=JerryK;23978772]you guys are dumber than i thought if you really think nigger or sandnigger isn't an offensive term[/QUOTE]
You've made your claim, now reinforce it with a reason.
[QUOTE=JerryK;23978772]you guys are dumber than i thought if you really think nigger or sandnigger isn't an offensive term[/QUOTE]
white suburban kids who are incapable of viewing the world from another person's perspective
how about the reason that a majority of blacks or arabs would take offense from someone calling them a nigger or sandnigger
it's a racial slur, it doesn't matter if you don't think it's offensive
[QUOTE=Elstumpo;23978640]As nice as it would be for it not to be offensive, it is to some people. You can't just ignore those who do find it offensive.[/QUOTE]
Well, too bad? Ignore it. People say it all around me all the time, they're always going to, it's the very fact that it is such an offensive word that people use it. Am I supposed to let a single word inspire me to anger and violence? You don't hear people using offensive slang from older times. Why? Because they've lost their meaning and people don't care anymore. Now they're just silly words.
It's just a combination of syllables, you give them power.
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