• Anonymous Goes on Megaupload Revenge Spree: DoJ, RIAA, MPAA, Universal Music and US Copyright Office
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[QUOTE=acidcj;34310251]8 years ago I was in a hospital that lost power during a hurricane, the backup power took ~15-20 seconds to start, which could be bad[/QUOTE] Well that was 8 years ago. You'd expect them to upgrade tech by now right, RIGHT?
sopa & pipa got canceled so thats that i guess
Life support things has battery as auxiliary power?
[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;34310322]Well that was 8 years ago. You'd expect them to upgrade tech by now right, RIGHT?[/QUOTE] Nope, cost cutting and such. [editline]20th January 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=krazipanda;34310468]sopa & pipa got canceled so thats that i guess[/QUOTE] Nope, only postponed, and that means they [B]CAN[/B] come back
[QUOTE=Swilly;34309822]Honestly, dropbox or bust for legit files.[/QUOTE] "You should have to move all the shit you've uploaded to another site because some people upload illegal shit"
[QUOTE=Chubbs;34310108]That assumes that the auxiliary sources are ready to provide power instantly after it goes out. It could still fuck with life support machines and ventilators and the like.[/QUOTE] those have batteries built into the machine, I think what it does it runs off battery power constantly , but is also constantly charged from the electrical grid, same idea as an uninterruptable power supply
[QUOTE=Strongbad;34311234]"You should have to move all the shit you've uploaded to another site because some people upload illegal shit"[/QUOTE] Completely ignoring the fact that Dropbox is a program that makes it less of a hassle to upload files.
[QUOTE=Protocol7;34311307]Completely ignoring the fact that Dropbox is a program that makes it less of a hassle to upload files.[/QUOTE] Right, we all have amazing connections uploading at 1mb/sec. I lost many old files I uploaded on megaupload, backups, homework and lessons, videos. Half of them were not on my harddrive anymore and can be considered gone forever. How about you stop being full of shit.
[QUOTE=garry] Garrysmod.org occasionally gets DMCA notices and I act on them. Because that's my duty as an owner of a file sharing site. Not every file is gone. Just the ones where the companies didn't want their copyrighted content to be distributed. A lot of companies are cool with it - but it's their right to request we not distribute it. Megaupload got taken down because they didn't repond to DMCA notices. The copyright holders were asking them to take down the pirated movies and tv shows and they didn't. They were making too much money out of it.[/QUOTE] There's no doubt that megaupload could have acted harder to deal with copyright infringement, but there's only a certain point to which they are obligated to deal with it. They cannot and should not be responsible for 100% of the files that pass through their enormous servers. Piracy is going to happen. It's a statistic, no matter how hard you try things will [B]always[/B] be pirated to a varying degree. The FBI and DOJ can't throw a tantrum and bend political and moral boundaries to take down a website that has already filled their moral and legal obligations. The FBI making legal requests to mega more ridiculous and impossible does not add to the validity of the arrest. So megaupload *might* make money of copyrighted infringement, but it cant really be proved in practicality? Yep, that's totally grounds enough to make them all wanted fugitives. Oh, must be similar to the way that copyright holders *might* lose *potential* profit off of copyright infringement but conveniently cant actually prove it; and yet their inability to prove that their profits are being STOLEN is still good enough to get the FBI and DOJ to take heavy action. No matter how big the allegation report is, it has no true validity beyond what the deeply corrupt congress, FBI and DOJ think of it. Mega filled their obligation to follow DMCA reports and removed violations, obligation filled; they run an upload site not a fucking copyright watchdog organization and they dont have an obligation to go above and beyond the call of duty to preemptively strike at copyrighted files. I'm not condoning megauploads bare-minimum efforts, but their bare minimum obligations are not grounds to be arrested and have their site shut down. A wrong cannot be undone by an even worse and more appalling wrong.
How is this gonna help at all? This is gonna make the FBI more furious. Surely DDoSing a website will show them not to fuck with the internet!!11
[QUOTE=Protocol7;34311307]Completely ignoring the fact that Dropbox is a program that makes it less of a hassle to upload files.[/QUOTE] Does it really matter a rat's ass whether it's a program or a site? "Shit, I have no valid points. Oh, wait, fuck yeah, I'll just tell him it's a program rather than a site! That'll shure learn him!"
[QUOTE=Strongbad;34311854]Does it really matter a rat's ass whether it's a program or a site? "Shit, I have no valid points. Oh, wait, fuck yeah, I'll just tell him it's a program rather than a site! That'll shure learn him!"[/QUOTE] Well my point was more people were talking about videos and project files. Dropbox is perfectly fine with that.\ Also being a jackass is crappy way to make an argument.
[QUOTE=Max of S2D;34308728]actually they didn't. and when they did it was only link by link, when they could have used MD5 hashes to bring all the IDENTICAL copies down along with it[/QUOTE] MD5 hash editing when reuploading GG (Oh, page king, yippe.)
[QUOTE=Van-man;34310624]Nope, only postponed, and that means they [B]CAN[/B] come back[/QUOTE] it will it's politics nowadays you want to pass something that will help you or your corporate friends, but you know people will react so you submit a bill even more terrible that what you really need people react, you postponed it 1 month later, you come back with it, sometimes with a new name, you got rid of the stuff that was just nonsense and keep what is terrible but needed by your friends no one gives a fuck
[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;34309182]Why would pirates be pissed? There's a lot of alternative file hosts just like MU. Pirates are people who adapt damn well and move on. Hence why you can't stop them. Sure there was a lot of pirated stuff on mu, but at the same time there was quite a lot of legit content that sadly is now gone. Remove pirated content from one site, they will upload it to another one. Remove original content, it's pretty much gone. Other than the piracy fiasco MU was quite a good host for legit stuff, being fast and easy to use. Well nothing can be done now, hopefully people learned something and will upload to more than one place. [/QUOTE] MegaUpload is fast, like really fast. Theeeee fastest I have ever had. Faster than other "methods". I got up to 15 MB/s DOWN. The file finished downloading in about 2 minutes. It was a mod pack for a game everyone was playing...
Look, whether or not the site had legitimate files and illegitimate files. There 3 facts that remain -Pirated videos and such, the users were paid BY the website itself for doing this. -They shared along links between eachother -And there are some SERIOUS allegations of other types of fraud.
[QUOTE=garychencool;34312153]MegaUpload is fast, like really fast. Theeeee fastest I have ever had. Faster than other "methods". I got up to 15 MB/s DOWN. The file finished downloading in about 2 minutes. It was a mod pack for a game everyone was playing...[/QUOTE] Yeah I was getting 2MB/s which is my max speed. Felt good to download stuff from there. Especially large map packs or other junk.
[QUOTE=hypno-toad;34311797]Mega filled their obligation to follow DMCA reports and removed violations, obligation filled; they run an upload site not a fucking copyright watchdog organization and they dont have an obligation to go above and beyond the call of duty to preemptively strike at copyrighted files.[/QUOTE] This is just wrong, though. Read the indictment. They didn't make a "bare minimum" effort, they [I]pretended[/I] to take a bare minimum of effort and then didn't even. I mean, I hate the idea that them hosting pirated shit is inherently evil or should be illegal, but the point is they indisputably did less than they should have according to the DMCA.
[QUOTE=Strongbad;34311854]Does it really matter a rat's ass whether it's a program or a site? "Shit, I have no valid points. Oh, wait, fuck yeah, I'll just tell him it's a program rather than a site! That'll shure learn him!"[/QUOTE] I can do the same shit. "Shit, I have no valid points. Oh wait, fuck yeah, I'll just make fun of him because he presented a legitimate fact that has a mild relation to the original topic! That'll show him!" Regardless, Dropbox makes filesharing easier because it's an extra couple of folders on your PC. That still doesn't change the fact that MU had a load of illegal content on their site, didn't adequately handle the amount of DMCA requests or implement an antipiracy method, and they still had a lot of fishy shit going on in the background. I know you're planning on making the point that this is probably true for a lot of file uploading websites, but MU is hosted in the US and without SOPA this is about the most the FBI could get away with. I still stand by my point that mostly pirates are frustrated at the taking down of this website. Rate me dumb all you wish, but anything of quality has likely been uploaded to other file uploading websites, some of equal quality (Mediafire for example). I know sites like Megavideo were good but understand that any copyrighted material uploaded to Megavideo was a breach of copyright and if anything was MU's strong point, it was how high-quality Megavideo's service was.
[QUOTE=lavacano;34302867]are you aware that the [b]only[/b] thing Garry posts on his Twitter these days are troll statements? [editline]19th January 2012[/editline] seriously, he looks for big events, and says the EXACT OPPOSITE of what most people on Facepunch think just to watch us get angry at him[/QUOTE] I've wanted to point this out for a long time.
this english is too advanced for me:tinfoil:
[QUOTE=Protocol7;34313831]I can do the same shit. "Shit, I have no valid points. Oh wait, fuck yeah, I'll just make fun of him because he presented a legitimate fact that has a mild relation to the original topic! That'll show him!" Regardless, Dropbox makes filesharing easier because it's an extra couple of folders on your PC. That still doesn't change the fact that MU had a load of illegal content on their site, didn't adequately handle the amount of DMCA requests or implement an antipiracy method, and they still had a lot of fishy shit going on in the background. I know you're planning on making the point that this is probably true for a lot of file uploading websites, but MU is hosted in the US and without SOPA this is about the most the FBI could get away with. [b]I still stand by my point that mostly pirates are frustrated at the taking down of this website.[/b] Rate me dumb all you wish, [b]but anything of quality has likely been uploaded to other file uploading websites[/b], some of equal quality (Mediafire for example). I know sites like Megavideo were good but understand that any copyrighted material uploaded to Megavideo was a breach of copyright and if anything was MU's strong point, it was how high-quality Megavideo's service was.[/QUOTE] Yes, a lot of pirates are in fact complaining that MegaUpload is down. Are they going to be hurt by it or care for very long? No, they're just going to another site. However a [i]lot[/i] of good, legit, quality material [i]was[/i] lost because there was no warning given for the site being taken down. So it's not really a matter of who's complaining the most, but who got hurt by it the most. As many have pointed out, the pirates are just going to different sites and have lost nothing. I'm not against MegaUpload being punished for their lack of effort to take down pirated content, but I don't think shutting down the site with no notice and all content lost was the best solution.
[QUOTE=Dr. Evilcop;34314078][B]So it's not really a matter of who's complaining the most, but who got hurt by it the most. As many have pointed out, the pirates are just going to different sites and have lost nothing.[/B][/QUOTE] Just reposting this, because that's [I]exactly[/I] why the complete shutdown of MegaUpload was over the top. Pirates are crafty fuckers and they always keep backups and have emergency plans. Ordinary people just uploading files for sharing usually doesn't, and they're the ones paying the price right now.
[QUOTE=Xenocidebot;34313435]This is just wrong, though. Read the indictment. They didn't make a "bare minimum" effort, they [I]pretended[/I] to take a bare minimum of effort and then didn't even. I mean, I hate the idea that them hosting pirated shit is inherently evil or should be illegal, but the point is they indisputably did less than they should have according to the DMCA.[/QUOTE] You are just wrong, they actually did take down what was asked of them.
[QUOTE=Mattk50;34314446]You are just wrong, they actually did take down what was asked of them.[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1156879?p=34307084&viewfull=1#post34307084[/url] [url]http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1156879?p=34309696&viewfull=1#post34309696[/url] [QUOTE]Members of the Mega Conspiracy negotiated the use of an “Abuse Tool” with some major U.S. copyright holders to purportedly remove copyright-infringing material from Mega Conspiracy-controlled servers. The Abuse Tool allowed copyright holders to enter specific URL links to copyright infringing content of which they were aware, and they were told by the Conspiracy that the Mega Conspiracy’s systems would then remove, or disable access to, the material from computer servers the Conspiracy controls. The Mega Conspiracy’s Abuse Tool did not actually function as a DMCA compliance tool as the copyright owners were led to believe.[/QUOTE] This was explained in detail. Try reading, lad.
Looks like Anon might take on Facebook and Twitter. Shit just got real.
[QUOTE=loophole;34316208]Looks like Anon might take on Facebook and Twitter. Shit just got real.[/QUOTE] Apparently the "biggest attack" was 5000 people. A 5000 bot ddos won't take down twitter or facebook.
The topic of the Internet with this and SOPA and the protests and everything will be one of the Top news stories of 2012.
Looks like Copyright.gov is down again.
[IMG]http://usdoj.s3-website-us-east-1.amazonaws.com/banner.jpg[/IMG] Holy shit that image looks so bad Also, why sieze the domain? It rightfully belongs to the owners, just throw them in jail and wipe the uploaded server content. Say, do these domains ever go back on sale? [editline]21st January 2012[/editline] Ahahahahaha they can't even afford to host the image on their own servers, they use amazon's instead.
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