Windows 7's mainstream support phase ends tomorrow (January 13) - only security fixes delivered afte
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[QUOTE=Elspin;46914170]It was hyperbole, obviously. Though it's generally not recommended to use an operating system that is no longer receiving security patches if you're doing anything valuable on your computer[/QUOTE]
Playing Skyrim isn't exactly anything critical and that's what I'm currently doing. I'm staying on seven until something forces my hand...and that something will likely be current gen games no longer running on seven. Microsoft would have to pull an absolute miracle out of their gilded arse to get me to postpone spending $200 to replace my video card(And it's on its way out, Skyrim artifacts like no tomorrow and most games play like Crypt of the Necrodancer) in order to spend $200 on a new OS right now. I don't have the disposable income to do both...actually, to be honest, I don't have the disposable income to do either, which is why I'm still using this dying card, but my point stands.
[QUOTE=garychencool;46915190]That's too much button presses, just hit the Windows key and type calculator[/QUOTE]
If you want the real proper way to do it. Win+R type calc.exe (I think calc is suitable as well, not using windows right now)
Searching for calc usually results in bringing up open office calc. Which sucks.
[QUOTE=garychencool;46915190]That's too much button presses, just hit the Windows key and type calculator[/QUOTE]
I have a calculator hotkey on my keyboard :v:
You know, if some of the people stopped bitching how Win8 is bad for at least few seconds, maybe they'd figure out to try find out how to make it more Win7-like to their comfort. And fortunately, there is a way! It's called Classic Shell!
The power of using the fucking internet, everyone! It's like a magic!
[QUOTE=Panda X;46914025]Hard to believe that 7 is over 5 years old already.[/QUOTE]
Seems like only yesterday we were talking about Longhorn rumours.
I wish 8.1 could run on my system. I installed it a while ago on my computer, and I think my system hates it or something. In L4D2 decals showed up without any transparency, and particles were fucked up somehow.to make it all even weirder, payday 2 wouldn't even start. I heard about the stock drivers being user by the device manager, so uninstalled them and took the video drivers from AMD. Sadly, it made no difference afterwards. I like it, but I'm just afraid to install it again and see the same thing happen again. So I guess I have to use Windows 7 until I have a new computer or something, which may take a while because it suits my gaming needs perfectly fine for the time being.
[QUOTE=SA Spyder;46916230]Seems like only yesterday we were talking about Longhorn rumours.[/QUOTE]
I wonder if Microsoft would've bombed it to shit still even if we had a 10-style feedback system where the public was involved.
[QUOTE=proboardslol;46914140]Unless windows 10 sucks.
Windows xp was great. Vista wasn't. So a lot of people clung to xp (like myself). Then 7 came out and it was great, so I switched to 7. Then 8 came out and it wasn't great, so I downgraded to 7. Now if 10 comes out and it sucks and has more metro shit, I may be SOL until they make a good OS[/QUOTE]
XP was fucking terrible. You're comparing release eight or even vista to XP sp3. Obviously the differences will be there. Compare vanilla xp to vanilla veerssions of those two or end of support versions.
[QUOTE=Ybbat;46915885]If you want the real proper way to do it. Win+R type calc.exe (I think calc is suitable as well, not using windows right now)
Searching for calc usually results in bringing up open office calc. Which sucks.[/QUOTE]
win+calc behaves the same way as win+r+calc. At least generally. It gets a bit wonky when the start menu has the same named entries.
Yes win 8 is slightly faster than 7, but there's some usability to work around and is less stable.
With my win 8 laptop I've got classic shell, for the most part its good, but every once and a while it either crashes or starts not showing all programs in the taskbar which is unacceptable. Older games seem to fuck up more on 8, especially with 8.1 changing a lot of things about how windows reads the mouse. While I like win 8's taskmanager, I can't stand how it doesn't open up instantly from control alt delete menu like it does in 7, sometimes it lags like 2 minutes and does other shit before opening the taskmanager finally.
I'm ok with just security fixes though as it is old, but its unfair to just say 8/8.1 is a better 7, each has its advantages and flaws.
The real reason why I'm staying on 7 is because I haven't gotten 1 single bsod, while on XP I had a bunch I'm still surprised how stable this thing is. And also windows 8/8.1/ and 10 don't have an icon on facepunch :D [IMG]http://facepunch.com/fp/browser/windows7.png[/IMG]
[QUOTE=gav618;46916748]Yes win 8 is slightly faster than 7, but there's some usability to work around and is less stable.
With my win 8 laptop I've got classic shell, for the most part its good, but every once and a while it either crashes or starts not showing all programs in the taskbar which is unacceptable. Older games seem to fuck up more on 8, especially with 8.1 changing a lot of things about how windows reads the mouse. While I like win 8's taskmanager, I can't stand how it doesn't open up instantly from control alt delete menu like it does in 7, sometimes it lags like 2 minutes and does other shit before opening the taskmanager finally.
I'm ok with just security fixes though as it is old, but its unfair to just say 8/8.1 is a better 7, each has its advantages and flaws.[/QUOTE]
You know you can hit ctrl shift esc to pull up task manager?
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[QUOTE=spectator1;46916774]The real reason why I'm staying on 7 is because I haven't gotten 1 single bsod, while on XP I had a bunch I'm still surprised how stable this thing is. And also windows 8/8.1/ and 10 don't have an icon on facepunch :D [IMG]http://facepunch.com/fp/browser/windows7.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
8 has an icon, 8.1 and obviously 10 don't.
Upgrading to 10 whever I'll get new components, then. 7 served me well and never moved to 8 because of lazyness.
Yeah, I mean the only reason I moved to 8 is because it was free and I needed my copy of 7 to sell a system. Glad I did, though. But moving from 7 to 8 doesn't have any massive benefits atm, just no sense in buying a new copy of 7 when you can get 8 outside of very specific scenarios.
[QUOTE=Marc Laidlaw;46914106]i switched to it a few weeks ago and now im constantly using 7 out of 8GB of my RAM even when i dont have anything open
get windows 8 they said its better they said[/QUOTE]
But unused RAM is wasted RAM
The RAM usage looks so high because windows does caching
Windows will automatically throw away cached stuff when there's need for more memory
Currently on Windows Technical Preview, upgraded after a month of Windows 8.1 because my start-menu replacement trial ran out.
I [I]really[/I] dislike the idea of an app store on a desktop, and the whole idea of having two different kinds of software on a single platform really bothers me.
Also, the PC Settings thing in Windows Technical Preview is terrible and I hate it.
Also the Windows 8 right click start menu is godlike.
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I [I]really[/I] dislike the idea of an app store on a desktop, and the whole idea of having two different kinds of software on a single platform really bothers me.
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Have you tried unpinning and ignoring it?
Supposedly (I honestly don't know if it's fake or truth, Google is failing me more often than normal) those with 8.1 will get Windows 10 for free. And so far, things seem pretty awesome from what I've seen.
And I was talking to a programmer buddy a few days ago about 10 and why it isn't called 9. It's because a good chunk of programmers (albeit lazy) look just for '9' for Windows 9x. Though to be honest, that doesn't make since I thought the internal name is something along the lines of NT 6.1 (Windows 7) or something.
Next time I format it's time to upgrade to the latest Windows. From what I've heard and experienced, 8.1 isn't that bad.
10 might come out before that happens though so I'll probably just switch to that. I'd like to think I'm pretty open-minded about 8.1
Huh, I hadn't realized 7 had been out so long already. I suppose when 10 comes out it's time for me to look into updating then maybe. I skipped 8 simply because it didn't really offer anything I wanted (and 7 was still supported until now anyways), though I do personally like the start screen more than Win7's start menu. I also dislike having to tie a Live account with your user account to use the app store. All that stuff should be entirely separate and self contained. Past that though I don't really mind 8 (my tablet is 8.1 so I've spent plenty of time with it) though it did take a bit to get used to the changes. (Note: I have yet to really check out 10 at all so I don't know most of the changes past the Cortana thing, they're redoing IE from the ground up which is irrelevant to me because I have no intentions of switching from Firefox, and apps aren't forced to fullscreen now.)
[QUOTE=nagachief;46917064]And I was talking to a programmer buddy a few days ago about 10 and why it isn't called 9. It's because a good chunk of programmers (albeit lazy) look just for '9' for Windows 9x. Though to be honest, that doesn't make since I thought the internal name is something along the lines of NT 6.1 (Windows 7) or something.[/QUOTE]
The Windows 10 name also makes sense because it is the 10th version of Windows; they're also bumping the NT version number to 10 to match that.
And that second part is assuming most developers actually used the internal version number rather than the name (which they probably didn't).
[QUOTE=KinderBueno;46914238]Is windows vista still supported?[/QUOTE]
Support for Windows Vista was stopped on 31st January 2006. Sorry :(
[QUOTE=NinjaTomate;46917048]Have you tried unpinning and ignoring it?[/QUOTE]
I have removed as many traces of it as I possibly can already, but some apps refuse to uninstall and it's impossible to not notice when Microsoft is pushing for apps instead of desktop software.
[QUOTE=RoboChimp;46915080]They should have ended Windows 7 support after Windows 10 came out.[/QUOTE]
Windows 10 isnt even out...
[QUOTE=Number-41;46914675]I don't like how W8.1 makes Linux dual booting difficult, if not almost impossible.[/QUOTE]
I managed to do it but I have to change the boot type to legacy to boot to Linux. I couldn't get it so I could just choose OS from grub or whatever, though. Anyway who really gives a fuck about W7 v W8? W8 is just slightly more annoying but still usable, that's about it.
Windows 8 may be better but god forbid if I prefer Windows 7. :itisanopinion:
[editline]13th January 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=nagachief;46917064]Supposedly (I honestly don't know if it's fake or truth, Google is failing me more often than normal) those with 8.1 will get Windows 10 for free. And so far, things seem pretty awesome from what I've seen.
And I was talking to a programmer buddy a few days ago about 10 and why it isn't called 9. It's because a good chunk of programmers (albeit lazy) look just for '9' for Windows 9x. Though to be honest, that doesn't make since I thought the internal name is something along the lines of NT 6.1 (Windows 7) or something.[/QUOTE]
Oh that second bit really isn't true; not many people actually do that :v:
As long as 10 doesn't have that garbage metro interface I'm game.
Windows 8 was pretty bad from experience so this is a shame.
[QUOTE=Marc Laidlaw;46914106]i switched to it a few weeks ago and now im constantly using 7 out of 8GB of my RAM even when i dont have anything open
get windows 8 they said its better they said[/QUOTE]
If you're actually being serious, scan your computer with Malwarebytes.
[QUOTE=Luxuria;46917810]Windows 8 was pretty bad from experience so this is a shame.[/QUOTE]
It's a shame that a 5 year old OS that has had a stable feature set for a majority of those 5 years isn't going to be getting any more feature updates?
We'll be getting security fixes and patches, the OS is still going to be totally usable for a few more years.
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