• paratrooper plummets to his death after chute gets caught on plane, Video captures last moments
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[QUOTE=Mbbird;42820870]I'm not sure I understand. My grasp of physics is that if the plane isn't accelerating or decelerating, and it is going as straight as possible, then surely the only addition G forces should be the force of the air flying past the plane (at a couple hundred miles per hour)? That isn't to say the situation isn't complicated but I don't think pulling him up would be a test of sheer strength.[/QUOTE] You can pull him up. Physically. But would he be alive when you do? Did you see how violently poor guy was thrown around just by entering-exiting diffirent air streams "flowing off" of plane's surfaces (bottom + sides)? If you start pulling him in, retrieving a) he would be thrown around much more violently, because there's no way to stabilize him in one particular stream and b) the crew who would attempt to retrieve him would be in danger of being pulled out. Incredible risk, to the point where cutting him loose to try and open reserve is preferable. [editline]10th November 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Mbbird;42820870] This is assuming he didn't have a reserve chute. But it seems that failed too, so he [I]did[/I] have one.[/QUOTE] To me it seems like all his equipment and gear got messed up very bad by that fall, the reserve could've been messed up as well.
cameraman wanted to record that death didn't he? goddamn
[QUOTE=fudge blood;42820997]cameraman wanted to record that death didn't he? goddamn[/QUOTE] evidence and training [editline]10th November 2013[/editline] the chances of him coming out of that alive were super slim
My first thought was to clip another parachute to the line he was hanging from and send it down to him. Although if it was me I would've been giving up and accepting death after the first second of disaster.
Couldn't another guy give him a freedom hug and parachuted together.(I understand how dangerous/impractical that is.)
[QUOTE=GammaFive;42821227]Couldn't another guy give him a freedom hug and parachuted together.(I understand how dangerous/impractical that is.)[/QUOTE] The altitude they were at doesn't look like it gave someone ample time to nose dive towards him and have the parachute activate safely.
I just paused at one point when he swung up His eyes
The pilot screwed the pooch as well - you're supposed to climb when someone is caught, not go lower. Gives them more time to open the reserve.
holy fuck, thats absolutely terrifying :(
Even after reading the description, all the way throughout the video I was hoping he'd make it out :(
I don't care what you've done wrong in your life. Nobody deserves a death like this.
[QUOTE=gbtygfvyg;42821426]The altitude they were at doesn't look like it gave someone ample time to nose dive towards him and have the parachute activate safely.[/QUOTE] Could have rose in altitude (Which is the first thing they should have done, and are probably trained to do, because it would give the paratrooper out there ample time to deploy his reserve chute). After rising in altitude, it would probably have become obvious the next step would be cutting him off and clipping another paratrooper onto him to help him out.
Damn, i am no expert but could he be saved if they fly low over water. I know it's dangerous to fly low but for his sake?
This is probably one of my number one most feared ways to die, I would rather be shot by a tank. Poor dude and his family...
[QUOTE=lirro433;42823541]Damn, i am no expert but could he be saved if they fly low over water. I know it's dangerous to fly low but for his sake?[/QUOTE] Regardless of the height, hitting water at high speed isn't much better than the ground. Bizarrely, trees are better as the branches breaking help slow you down without stopping you outright, and even then you'd have be fucking lucky.
I could not begin watch the video as I'm sure it would scar me for life, but even as a pilot I have no idea if anything could be done to help him. Planes fly insanely fast, just try to keep your whole arm outside your car window at highway speed, palm first, and it will be blown back at just 80mph. If they were to climb (requires more engine power) it would increase the turbulence on him so really, cutting him loose is the only feasible option.
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/TiYevKr.jpg[/IMG]
That's horrible, I think I heard some faint screaming right after he came off [IMG]http://fi.somethingawful.com/images/smilies/frown.gif[/IMG] It must be horrible knowing that you're going to die in a gruesome way and there's nothing you can do to stop it.
Hey where did the funny picture go?
Who the hell cares if he gets knocked out getting pulled back into the plane. I think it's a bit better than dying.
[QUOTE=No_Excuses;42823998]Who the hell cares if he gets knocked out getting pulled back into the plane. I think it's a bit better than dying.[/QUOTE] Except the fact that he wouldn't get knocked out, his whole head would have exploded from the impact.
[QUOTE=lirro433;42823541]Damn, i am no expert but could he be saved if they fly low over water. I know it's dangerous to fly low but for his sake?[/QUOTE] At that altitude, hitting water would be the equivalent of smashing into concrete.
[QUOTE=Fuck_The_Pooch;42824172]Except the fact that he wouldn't get knocked out, his whole head would have exploded from the impact.[/QUOTE] Unless there's something key I'm missing here, it would not be THAT violent unless the pilot pulled some serious maneuver. It's important to remember that, despite the speeds involved, everything is only moving so fast relative to each other.
[QUOTE=Mbbird;42824278]Unless there's something key I'm missing here, it would not be THAT violent unless the pilot pulled some serious maneuver. It's important to remember that, despite the speeds involved, everything is only moving so fast relative to each other.[/QUOTE] The fact that planes don't move very smoothly is important. Not to mention that the trooper's aerodynamic profile would be shifting constantly as he moves his body, introducing swings even if the plane was perfectly level.
[QUOTE=capgun;42819686]While I haven't personally dropped Personnel yet, I know from training that a Towed Parachutist is a shitty situation all around. There's basically two things that you can do: Cut or retrieve. In this sort of situation, Cut is the best option, since he seems to be conscious. Had they attempted to retrieve him, they'd probably be bringing in a bloody meat puppet from him getting smashed against the side of the plane. So you cut him loose, and just hope he can open his reserve, which sadly, doesn't seem like he was able to. RIP good sir[/QUOTE] Why didn't they get some altitude before cutting him loose I wonder
Why didn't the pilot do a nose dive and slowly pull up making him fall back into the plane?
[QUOTE=RudeMcRude;42825097]Why didn't the pilot do a nose dive and slowly pull up making him fall back into the plane?[/QUOTE] I'm no pilot, but even I can tell you that would be near impossible to pull off and incredibly dangerous. Still, I think there had to be something they could have done for him.
[QUOTE=RudeMcRude;42825097]Why didn't the pilot do a nose dive and slowly pull up making him fall back into the plane?[/QUOTE] You need to be at extremely high altitude, and normal planes can't do it. Only high altitude planes can do it.
Hindsight is 20/20 in this case.
How come they were releasing their parachutes so early? I thought it was common practice to count several seconds before opening the parachute.
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