• 16-year-old gets 10 years probation for a drunk driving crash that killed 4 people because he's rich
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I'm gonna go to the US, shoot someone. Then get my lawyer to tell the judge that I never knew shooting someone was illegal. Ta-dah probation. What the fuck was that judge thinking. Since when was ignorance of law something that could make your sentence "lighter"?
I'm putting my money on the judge getting a nice off-the-record Christmas bonus from an unidentified donor.
This is some serious bullshit. If I killed people in a drunken car wreck and tried to pull that defense, I'd be hauled off to prison faster than you could say "rot in a cell you fuck". What do you want to bet money changed hands between the kid's parents and the judge?
As one-sided as this case seems to be I don't trust that a news source using such over the top tabloid language is accurately representing the defense used or the reasons for the judge's decision.
affluenza and I'd rather do jail than 10 years probation. It doesnt say what the terms of the probation are which I find stupid. They could range from simply "dont drink and drive" to "Must obey all laws"
On the other hand, if that person is Black...
So essentially four manslaughter charges were just completely dropped because "He didn't know better"?
Someone should run him over. Let's see if his parents would have compassion for who killed their child? Bullshit, but then again look where it happen.
What this source doesn't mention is that the kid has had problems since he was thirteen and never received therapy or parental concern. [QUOTE=catbarf;43161055]As one-sided as this case seems to be I don't trust that a news source using such over the top tabloid language is accurately representing the defense used or the reasons for the judge's decision.[/QUOTE][url=http://www.wfaa.com/news/crime/Defense-pushes-for-intensive-therapy-for-teen-in-drunken-crash-that-killed-4-235288101.html]A better source[/url].
[QUOTE=KennyAwsum;43159877]What a Dumbass. Hope he never touches drink again for the safety of society.[/QUOTE] I hope he's never allowed to touch the controls of a car again for the safety of society. He's proven he's unable to handle the responsiblity that comes with holding a driver's license.
[QUOTE=CubeManv2;43160075]My uncle was suppose to go with his friends one night to go have fun. He missed them cause he was running late, [b]The car flipped over and all 4 died[/b] They couldn't tell why it flipped but part of the fun was going to a bar, Drunk driving scares the shit out of me. And my uncle is one of my closer family members so I couldn't imagine losing him.[/QUOTE] Was walking to the planetarium in a chicago, crossing the street and a car tells the red light to fuck off and proceeds to speed like 5 feet in front of me in a dull blur. Shit was spooky
What a fucking crock of shit. This isn't justice. Someone get this fucking kid's ass to prison where he belongs. Corrupt judges are the worst kind of people. If I were that judge, they couldn't pay me a million dollars. I'd haul his rich ass to prison myself.
As someone whose brother doesn't actually know right from wrong. He doesn't even understand consequences, he fell of a two story and cracked his skull then tried to make a sandwich, there was a lot of blood everywhere. He has a mental condition, but this is fucked.
[QUOTE=thedekoykid;43162012]As someone whose brother doesn't actually know right from wrong. He doesn't even understand consequences, he fell of a two story and cracked his skull then tried to make a sandwich, there was a lot of blood everywhere. He has a mental condition, but this is fucked.[/QUOTE] that's a different thing completely. I hate to be the devil's advocate here, but I do find it quite possible for a 16 year old kid to "not know what's right and wrong". And I don't mean this in a literal way (and I don't think the judge means it that way either). Sure, the kid got his license and he got taught that drunk driving is wrong and all that, but truly knowing right from wrong is actually about being prudent, self controlled and being considerate about others, and from the kid's profile (rich family, spoiled), the kind of family he grew up in does not encourage any of the things I just mentioned. He's being taught that he can do whatever he feels like and get everything he wants even if that means trampling over others. I know a few kids like that myself, that grew up in rich but dysfunctional families and even though they got great education and all, were impulsive, irresponsible and had no consideration of others. So yes, they may know that drunk driving is wrong or that having sex without condoms could easily end in pregnancy, yet they don't have the self-control and conscience to stop themselves from doing such things. Do I agree with the sentence? Not really, I think it should have definitely been harsher. In my opinion it should have included detention right away for a certain period of time. But, really, think about it, this is after all a 16 year old kid. He still has a legitimate chance of understanding the consequences of his crime and changing for the better. What good would you be doing by throwing this teen who's just starting at life for 20-30 years in jail just for the sake of justice? And fruitless justice at that, because "justice" itself cannot repair the damage already done. Regardless, this kid has to live with what he's done; no matter how spoiled or "dumb" he is, he'll eventually come around and see the terrible damage that he's done. Much more good can be achieved if he (and others too) can learn a lesson from this and turn around and become a better person instead of just rotting in jail.
The kid was actually ordered to go to some sort of "rehabilitation" facility where he will learn whats right from wrong since apparently mommy and daddy were too rich to care. Of course that infuriates me further when I found out that the facility is actually a upscale resort next to the beach where he will learn that if he runs people over drunk he would get a paid vacation to one of the most beautiful places in the world. Anyone who says that wealthy people face the same consequences as everyone else is full of shit. Also the "order" was apparently just a suggestion, he doesn't even have to go to this place if he doesn't want to.
I mean, he'll have to live the rest of his life knowing his dumb actions killed 4 people, no amount of money could make that kind of guilt go away (he still should be in prison though)
Without being in the courtroom, I don't know how to look at it. Maybe he was extremely repentant and the judge was moved? I think this is BS, but without knowing the full story I can't just look at it like "fucking rich people"
From what I read (different source) he was quite and hanged his head through the whole thing, and only teared up when one of the victims family asked him point blank what he felt after killing 4 people because of a stupid decision.
[QUOTE=halflambada;43162665]I mean, he'll have to live the rest of his life knowing his dumb actions killed 4 people, no amount of money could make that kind of guilt go away (he still should be in prison though)[/QUOTE] I've never understood why people say this. Why do people always assume that someone will feel guilty for doing something bad? Sometimes people just don't care about other people, and destroying someone's life means absolutely nothing to them. I'm sure you've seen "Scumbag Stacy" or "Scumbag Steve" memes where someone will do something mean/bad/terrible and basically have no guilt or remorse for it. People can do cruel things and not care about it at all, so saying something like "He will suffer with the guilt of..." might mean absolutely nothing. Making someone pay with "guilt" they might not even feel isn't proper justice. Putting him behind bars for vehicular manslaughter, and additional punishments for drunk driving and underage drinking, would be proper justice.
wow this actually happened in real life [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4B93BoC9ylg[/media] [editline]wat[/editline] 2:11
[QUOTE=Helix Snake;43160624]If you kill someone in the process of committing a felony, that isn't manslaughter, it's murder.[/QUOTE] No it isn't. Murder is pre-meditated i.e he got into the car with the intention of killing someone.
What ever happened to "ignorance is no excuse"? A sociopath genuinely can't tell right from wrong, but they get punished to the full extent. There is no reason this guy should get a reduced sentence because his parents didn't teach him something he should've learned a thing about on his own by now.
[QUOTE]parents never taught him right from wrong[/QUOTE] Tell that to all the socioeconomically disadvantaged black people locked up behind bars with keys thrown away. Being an ignorant spoiled brat shouldn't shield you from justice. If this was anyone else, they would have probably been hauled off to prison.
[QUOTE=areolop;43161112]affluenza and I'd rather do jail than 10 years probation. It doesnt say what the terms of the probation are which I find stupid. They could range from simply "dont drink and drive" to "Must obey all laws"[/QUOTE] I can barely imagine being legally obligated to obey the law.
[QUOTE=Boaraes;43161508]What a fucking crock of shit. This isn't justice. Someone get this fucking kid's ass to prison where he belongs. Corrupt judges are the worst kind of people. If I were that judge, they couldn't pay me a million dollars. I'd haul his rich ass to prison myself.[/QUOTE] i'd take the million then haul him to prison anyways
Hmm intensive $450,000 therapy I wonder why the psychologist would lobby for a rich kid having very expensive therapy??
[QUOTE=Psychokitten;43159893]So they're letting him off from punishment because he was never taught right from wrong. Outstanding logic.[/QUOTE] That lawyer argued that among other things. That's not the same as he dodged prison because of that.
He suffers from a psychological condition where he thought that money could solve anything. And guess what? He was right.
[QUOTE=Kinky Frog;43159935]Jail should teach him right from wrong[/QUOTE] jail will only teach him how to bend over
Had this kid jumped out in front of a car on a freeway and been killed by a totally innocent driver who did everything they could to avoid hitting him, the family would be suing the driver for every penny they'll ever earn, and would demand prosecution to the fullest extent of the law. They'd probably get it, and then some.
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