• Quantum teleportation achieved over ten miles of free space
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[QUOTE=BaconDioxide;22067131]Instant communication is the holy fucking grail of space exploration, seriously.[/QUOTE] More or less. At the places scientists most want to visit it would take thousands of years for a light-encoded message to be relayed, craft-to-earth
Now we just need to figure out how to transport fuel into the ship, which wouldp. much solve all problems with space travel.
[QUOTE=BaconDioxide;22067131]Instant communication is the holy fucking grail of space exploration, seriously.[/QUOTE] Now if only we could teleport vast quantities of physical matter, we'd have this galaxy explored in no time. This is why physics is awesome.
[QUOTE=Rooster Assassin;22066796]:science: I love reading about all these new strides science has made us :buddy:[/QUOTE] Next: Stride Triple Layer Gum, each layer changing flavor. Prepare to have your head explode.
Holy shit, there are science achievements all over the place today.
[QUOTE=Eudoxia;22067185]Now we just need to figure out how to transport fuel into the ship, which wouldp. much solve all problems with space travel.[/QUOTE] It would cost more money to do that than to gather fuel from space Course, we could try to ultra-focus a microwave laser and beam energy to it but it would still take a long time.
Wow this sounds awesome, even if i don't totally understand what happened.
This is a moment that will go down in history.
[QUOTE=MachiniOs;22067289]Wow this sounds awesome, even if i don't totally understand what happened.[/QUOTE] Photons were spacially manipulated into another area ten miles away from their starting area using quantum entanglement
[QUOTE=Quo Vadi;22067276]It would cost more money to do that than to gather fuel from space Course, we could try to ultra-focus a microwave laser and beam energy to it but it would still take a long time.[/QUOTE] I didn't mean chemical fuel. Something like leaving a Bussard Ramjet in Jupiter's atmosphere, that catches Hydrogen. Some of it is teleported and used by the ship's fusion drive or something, and the rest is used to keep the station floating.
prepare for unforeseen consequences...
So many science threads, makes me happy.
This shit is awesome
[QUOTE=BaconDioxide;22066895]But doesn't that violate special relativity? You know, since information is being transmitted faster than the speed of light and all...?[/QUOTE] Nothings moving though. How can people not get this, if there's nothing moving then there's no violation possible.
[QUOTE=bravehat;22067939]Nothings moving though. How can people not get this, if there's nothing moving then there's no violation possible.[/QUOTE] What about violations of Causality?
[QUOTE=bravehat;22067939]Nothings moving though. How can people not get this, if there's nothing moving then there's no violation possible.[/QUOTE] I know nothing's moving, jeez. Don't blame me for what wikipedia and other sites keep telling me. [editline]09:02PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Eudoxia;22068015]What about violations of Causality?[/QUOTE] Exactly.
Now to find a way to turn humans or items, etc. into data, then transport with quantum stuff and turn them back.
The reason this is allowed to violate relativity and travel FTL is because it's can't carry non-random information
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;22068118]The reason this is allowed to violate relativity and travel FTL is because it's can't carry non-random information[/QUOTE] So... It's exactly what we need for an FTL radio of sorts? EDIT: Also, is this true FTL or does it require any sort of data to be sent STL? Like the measurement method or something.
[QUOTE=TH89;22066897]:geno:[/QUOTE] It's a unit of measurment, usually means 4 billion, since Sagan said "Billions of billions" so many times. But this is amazing!
[QUOTE=Eudoxia;22068163]So... It's exactly what we need for an FTL radio of sorts? EDIT: Also, is this true FTL or does it require any sort of data to be sent STL? Like the measurement method or something.[/QUOTE] Nope. It's truly FTL. The particles are entangled such that if one is in one state, the other is in the opposite state, but the particles occupy both states until an observation is made. Once you observe the state of one of the particles, the wave function of the second collapses, affecting the particle across a distance instantaneously.
[QUOTE=Eudoxia;22068015]What about violations of Causality?[/QUOTE] But there's still no movement or the like and since information is only a value it doesn't have mass so can't cause a violation. Information is something we project as a species, what is information to us could be totally useless to an alien species, so since these particles are only entangled we should be fine.
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;22068236]Nope. It's truly FTL. The particles are entangled such that if one is in one state, the other is in the opposite state, but the particles occupy both states until an observation is made. Once you observe the state of one of the particles, the wave function of the second collapses, affecting the particle across a distance instantaneously.[/QUOTE] Oh I see. And about this observation, I keep hearing people saying 'mental powers' can affect particles. When you say 'observation', is is the person/machine that observes it or the phyisical method of observation (Some machine with instruments measuring stuff) that affects the particles?
Linking particles with quantum entanglement would give [B]instant[/B] results yeah.
JohnyMo1 is right. They are not transmitting just any info. They're more like "knowing" from far away instantly in which state the quantum particle is. If the one in the other end is at state A, the other is at state B. Imagine you have two boxes. One has a ball inside it, the other has a cube inside it. Take the boxes far away from each other, now open the boxes. "WHOAH instant transportation of information!"
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;22068236]Nope. It's truly FTL. The particles are entangled such that if one is in one state, the other is in the opposite state, but the particles occupy both states until an observation is made. Once you observe the state of one of the particles, the wave function of the second collapses, affecting the particle across a distance instantaneously.[/QUOTE] But that's just like having a note in one of two envelopes, then sending the envelopes miles away and then opening one and finding nothing and thinking "oh, the other envelope must have the note in it." Got my hopes up again for nothing :sigh:
[QUOTE=BaconDioxide;22068359]But that's just like having a note in one of two envelopes, then sending the envelopes miles away and then opening one and finding nothing and thinking "oh, the other envelope must have the note in it." Got my hopes up again for nothing :sigh:[/QUOTE] Kind of, but on a quantum level, since the particle occupies two states until you make an observation, you're actually affecting the particle itself from a distance.
Big scawwy wordz
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;22068412]Kind of, but on a quantum level, since the particle occupies two states until you make an observation, you're actually affecting the particle itself from a distance.[/QUOTE] oh yeah. :monocle: Now why didn't I think of that before? That actually makes sense. Do you think there will be a way to use that to send information in the future? I mean, there needs to be some way to tell whether a particle's waveform has collapsed or not to do that, which just makes no sense since you collapse it by observing it... bah, I don't know enough about this yet.
[QUOTE=BaconDioxide;22068359]But that's just like having a note in one of two envelopes, then sending the envelopes miles away and then opening one and finding nothing and thinking "oh, the other envelope must have the note in it." Got my hopes up again for nothing :sigh:[/QUOTE] Ok, for example we take quantum morse code. State A = . State B = - Since we have one particle, if it's in state B we know the message being sent is from state A So we see - so we know what is being sent is . :v: See it's fairly useful, just gonna have to go back to Morse code for interplanetary stuff.
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