"Don't Ask, Don't Tell" Could be Around for a While Longer - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Tetracycline;24967991]i don't see how anyone can even argue that it isn't a choice, all it takes is knowing one gay person and asking them if they chose to be gay, and they'll ALWAYS say they didn't chose it.[/QUOTE] yes because anecdotal evidences trumps all

[QUOTE=Doriol;24968039]yes because anecdotal evidences trumps all[/QUOTE] uh wow that isn't a situation where anecdotal evidence doesn't work

[QUOTE=Doriol;24968039]yes because anecdotal evidences trumps all[/QUOTE] sexual orientation is not a choice if you think it is you are a fucking idiot

[QUOTE=Tetracycline;24968085]uh wow that isn't a situation where anecdotal evidence doesn't work[/QUOTE] yes it is

in fact I don't think anything but anecdotal evidence should be used when talking about sexual orientation [editline]03:44PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Doriol;24968110]yes it is[/QUOTE] then what the fuck do you want a few scientists could "prove" that it is a choice, but there are so many people that can't simply stop being gay

[QUOTE=lolwutdude;24967801]ahahaha, double standards, and i'm pretty sure gays are normal as everybody else. they piss, they eat, they pay taxes, and etc. and we're getting 'pissed off' because we don't like people's right being infringed, especially on the behalf of the government. a lot of people here whose saying they're for gay rights aren't even gay. and in fact, if you don't know what's it's like, who are you to say how gays should live or how they should be discriminated? and being gay isn't a choice. in fact, try liking men, [b]right now[/b]. you can't do it because you're talking out of your ass. as well, the military is part of the government, by denying gays, they're discriminating against sexual orientation, just like how the military discriminated against blacks and japanese for 'weakening morale'.[/QUOTE] What defines normality? You are right, and I am right too. Obviously we don't live in the same realities. What may be normal to you, wouldn't be normal for me. Let's say that normality is relative to perception and we can both be right. In the end I'm not going to change your opinion, and you won't mine. Who are you to say who I can and can't discriminate against? In my eyes you are just another pawn in my game of chess. No one has the right to say what is right and wrong for everyone. Stop getting so defensive.

[QUOTE=nevaeh;24968142]What defines normality? You are right, and I am right too. Obviously we don't live in the same realities. What may be normal to you, wouldn't be normal for me. Let's say that normality is relative to perception and we can both be right. In the end I'm not going to change your opinion, and you won't mine. Who are you to say who I can and can't discriminate against? [b]In my eyes you are just another pawn in my game of chess.[/b] No one has the right to say what is right and wrong for everyone. Stop getting so defensive.[/QUOTE] :colbert: What do you mean by that?

[QUOTE=lolwutdude;24967801]ahahaha, double standards, and i'm pretty sure gays are normal as everybody else. they piss, they eat, they pay taxes, and etc. and we're getting 'pissed off' because we don't like people's right being infringed, especially on the behalf of the government. a lot of people here whose saying they're for gay rights aren't even gay. and in fact, if you don't know what's it's like, who are you to say how gays should live or how they should be discriminated? and being gay isn't a choice. in fact, try liking men, [b]right now[/b]. you can't do it because you're talking out of your ass. as well, the military is part of the government, by denying gays, they're discriminating against sexual orientation, just like how the military discriminated against blacks and japanese for 'weakening morale'.[/QUOTE] They aren't trying to decide FOR gays, they're just defending their rights because the straight majority will always be that, a majority.

[QUOTE=nevaeh;24968142]What defines normality? You are right, and I am right too. Obviously we don't live in the same realities. What may be normal to you, wouldn't be normal for me. Let's say that normality is relative to perception and we can both be right. In the end I'm not going to change your opinion, and you won't mine. Who are you to say who I can and can't discriminate against? In my eyes you are just another pawn in my game of chess. No one has the right to say what is right and wrong for everyone. Stop getting so defensive.[/QUOTE] you can discriminate against anyone you want, the government cant though

[QUOTE=bigbigzubra;24968171]:colbert: What do you mean by that?[/QUOTE] Just means that perception is projection.

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;24968255]you can discriminate against anyone you want, the government cant though[/QUOTE] Makes me wonder whats the point of discriminating if you won't get any meaningful support out of it

And the homophobes come out of the woodwork as if on cue.

[QUOTE=nevaeh;24966422]Gay people are not normal people..they are an oddity of nature. Humans are animals, and it is in their very nature to want to reproduce with the opposite sex. We know very little about homosexuality, and some say it's a choice while others say it is hardwired. If it's hardwired then it's a mutation.[/QUOTE] Gay behaviour is observed in animals, there for it is natural. We know a lot about homosexuality, YOU, emphasis on JUST YOU, don't.

I had a cat who was gay. he would constantly pin down my other cats and fuck them in the butt true story

[QUOTE=Tetracycline;24968283]Makes me wonder whats the point of discriminating if you won't get any meaningful support out of it[/QUOTE] some people like being assholes

[QUOTE=nevaeh;24967645]I know their are gay animals, but instead of calling them gay I would say that they have homosexual tendencies. I don't believe you can be fully gay and be normal. I can't imagine another animal having sex with only the same gender. Wouldn't there be no point in it? I don't see why everyone is getting pissed off. I'm not gay so I can't see this subject from your perspective. It would be impossible, just like me imagining what it must be like to be able to fly since I've never done it. The bottom line is that we all have choices. If your choice is to be gay, and the military's choice is to not allow gays then you also have the choice to look for another career. They are the minorities, and that's what makes it so spectacular. Most of us are straight, so what makes someone gay? Is it their choice to be gay or something internal?[/QUOTE] Ladies and gentlemen, we have a fucking idiot here. Being gay is not a choice, being gay is a result of biological and psychological factors that renders itself outside the gray area that we call choice. Being gay is not something you control, just like, being a retard isn't something YOU control.

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;24968255]you can discriminate against anyone you want, the government cant though[/QUOTE] They have, they can, and they will. =D The governments purpose is in the name, they are there to govern. Obviously if someone is governing you then you aren't truly free.

[QUOTE=Doriol;24968339]I had a cat who was gay. he would constantly pin down my other cats and fuck them in the butt true story[/QUOTE] Was there ever a giant mess after it was done raping the other cats?

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;24968314]Gay behaviour is observed in animals, there for it is natural. We know a lot about homosexuality, YOU, emphasis on JUST YOU, don't.[/QUOTE] Like I've said before, they aren't normal (because by definition, they aren't, and I'd like to point out that there isn't anything inheritabley wrong with being abnormal) but they are natural, as you've said because it can happen in animals

What is normal for you Nev?

[QUOTE=bigbigzubra;24968385]Was there ever a giant mess after it was done raping the other cats?[/QUOTE] not really also I had a cat who would rape a doll bear we had. it got crusty after awhile I have no idea why our cats were so fucked up

[QUOTE=nevaeh;24966422]Gay people are not normal people..they are an oddity of nature. Humans are animals, and it is in their very nature to want to reproduce with the opposite sex. We know very little about homosexuality, and some say it's a choice while others say it is hardwired. If it's hardwired then it's a mutation.[/QUOTE] You are dumb

If you spay/neuter a cat...will it stop having sexual urges?

[QUOTE=nevaeh;24966422]Gay people are not normal people..they are an oddity of nature. Humans are animals, and it is in their very nature to want to reproduce with the opposite sex. We know very little about homosexuality, and some say it's a choice while others say it is hardwired. If it's hardwired then it's a mutation.[/QUOTE] Technically you're right on some of your points, but who gives a fuck

[QUOTE=Tetracycline;24968444]If you spay/neuter a cat...will it stop having sexual urges?[/QUOTE] probably

[QUOTE=nevaeh;24968377]They have, they can, and they will. =D The governments purpose is in the name, they are there to govern. Obviously if someone is governing you then you aren't truly free.[/QUOTE] yeah i know they can and i know that they do (dont ask dont tell is a perfect example) the fact is that they shouldn't be allowed to the government is meant to be representative of ALL it's citizens not just a select few

I just read the first page of the thread. I could not believe so much blatant homophobia could be generated out of FP. I mean, holy shit.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;24968367]Ladies and gentlemen, we have a fucking idiot here. Being gay is not a choice, being gay is a result of biological and psychological factors that renders itself outside the gray area that we call choice. Being gay is not something you control, just like, being a retard isn't something YOU control.[/QUOTE] Hey guiz lewk we got aye idiet hear! What are you in fucking preschool? Being gay might not be something you control, but some people do choose to be gay.

[QUOTE=nevaeh;24968627]Hey guiz lewk we got aye idiet hear! What are you in fucking preschool? Being gay might not be something you control, but some people do choose to be gay.[/QUOTE] what do you mean? so they actually like chicks, but "choose" to be gay for the social status or something?

ad hominem everywhere in this bitch [editline]06:10PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Lachz0r;24968655]what do you mean? so they actually like chicks, but "choose" to be gay for the social status or something?[/QUOTE] that is a horrible hypothetical situation