• "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" Could be Around for a While Longer
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[QUOTE=nevaeh;24968627]Hey guiz lewk we got aye idiet hear! What are you in fucking preschool? Being gay might not be something you control, but some people do choose to be gay.[/QUOTE] Believing you can choose to like men, which must come from an uncontrollable attraction, is just stupid. A man can not just have a thought in his mind and then suddenly start having urges to suck a guy's dick.
If it stays, and there is a draft for what ever reason, then everyone will be screaming "I'M GAY" as to get out of going to war. Also, the sheer amount of homophobia in this thread is amusing.
[QUOTE=I Broke The Sun!;24968668]Believing you can choose to like men, which must come from an uncontrollable attraction, is just stupid. A man can not just have a thought in his mind and then suddenly start having urges to suck a guy's dick.[/QUOTE] yes he can
It's to me that gay people are not born gay. There's just no evidence for it, and I can't see it being logically possible. HOWEVER, I completely support gay rights and I have gay friends, and I do not view it as a disease or something unnatural or anything like that. I see it as something unique a personal has or feels, and it is a harmless one at that. Gay rights shouldn't have to come from genetic evidence or medical science, it should come from tolerance and respect towards your fellow man or woman.
[QUOTE=Smooth-e;24968443]You are dumb[/QUOTE] That was incredibly constructive, I mean I can't believe it. Very good point!
Nevaeh tell me what you consider normal.
if people would just stop asking and telling this wouldnt be an issue
In the end no one here is smart enough to solve this problem. If it was easy to solve then it wouldn't be a major problem and we wouldn't be talking about it right now. People calling each other dumb does not help one bit.
[QUOTE=nevaeh;24968830]In the end no one here is smart enough to solve this problem. If it was easy to solve then it wouldn't be a major problem and we wouldn't be talking about it right now. People calling each other dumb does not help one bit.[/QUOTE] i'm smart enough repeal don't gay, don't gay, problem solved
Where would gay soldiers bunk with? Other men? That would lead to, likely, romance on the field. So whats the solution, bunk the gays with women? Then every male soldier is gonna be gay sooner or later.
As a conservative, this is why I fucking hate the republican party. "Gay people and drugs are terrible and bad, we have to restrict and control who people choose to love to save society! :downs:"
[QUOTE=Bepo5;24968876]As a conservative, this is why I fucking hate the republican party. "Gay people and drugs are terrible and bad, we have to restrict and control who people choose to love to save society! :downs:"[/QUOTE] as a fiscal conservative you mean
[QUOTE=Habsburg;24968772]Nevaeh tell me what you consider normal.[/QUOTE] In my perception? What I consider normal doesn't necessarily matter, and it won't change anything. Normal in my mind would be man and women. I just like discussing this stuff, and I find all the views of everyone incredibly important if they are constructive; even if they don't agree with me. There is no way to meet each other in the middle if you aren't willing to change your opinion.
[QUOTE=Neolk;24968860]Where would gay soldiers bunk with? Other men? That would lead to, likely, romance on the field. So whats the solution, bunk the gays with women? Then every male soldier is gonna be gay sooner or later.[/QUOTE] they already bunk with other men and i'm pretty sure the army is a bit strict about that sort of thing
[QUOTE=nevaeh;24968830]In the end no one here is smart enough to solve this problem. If it was easy to solve then it wouldn't be a major problem and we wouldn't be talking about it right now. People calling each other dumb does not help one bit.[/QUOTE] There really is a simple solution to all of this. Just repeal it and have gays in the military. I'm sure if someone asked a gay person if they had a girlfriend at home and they said that they were gay it wouldn't have any harm. Well, there is a lot of homophobes in America so maybe...
[QUOTE=Neolk;24968860]Where would gay soldiers bunk with? Other men? That would lead to, likely, romance on the field. So whats the solution, bunk the gays with women? Then every male soldier is gonna be gay sooner or later.[/QUOTE] It isn't like a gay guy is suddenly going to go into a rage of sexual desire and start ass-raping people. What kind of train of thought are you getting across here? Straight men secure with their sexuality won't slowly degrade into homosexuals.
[QUOTE=I Broke The Sun!;24968975]It isn't like a gay guy is suddenly going to go into a rage of sexual desire and start ass-raping people. What kind of train of thought are you getting across here? Straight men secure with their sexuality won't slowly degrade into homosexuals.[/QUOTE] Not the point I was making: Point is if homosexuals are closet about their being gay they likely won't reveal they are gay to other crew out of fear they will be kicked out of the army. If DADT is repealed then gays, open with their sexuality may find other gays in their unit, increasing sexual tensions.
[QUOTE=Neolk;24969060] If DADT is repealed then gays, open with their sexuality may find other gays in their unit, increasing sexual tensions.[/QUOTE] if they express their sexual desires towards another soldier, they shouldn't be in the army anyway
[QUOTE=Doriol;24969093]if they express their sexual desires towards another soldier, they shouldn't be in the army anyway[/QUOTE] Romance and attraction in the work place is inevitable - restricting military service to males in one regiment and females in the other stop instances of romance and attraction from occurring because - there are no ones to romance around you. Repeat of DADT changes that.
[QUOTE=Neolk;24969153]Romance and attraction in the work place is inevitable - restricting military service to males in one regiment and females in the other stop instances of romance and attraction from occurring because - there are no ones to romance around you. [/QUOTE] I have a hard time interpreting this post are you saying that homosexuals don't exist?
I think that he's trying to say that people shouldn't be fucking each other while they're in the service
[QUOTE=bigbigzubra;24969201]I think that he's trying to say that people shouldn't be fucking each other while they're in the service[/QUOTE] oh okay I agree
[QUOTE=Doriol;24969166]I have a hard time interpreting this post are you saying that homosexuals don't exist?[/QUOTE] I'm saying DADT severely impairs the ability for two males to engage in a relationship in the army simply because of its strict "no bullshit" policy. If you turn out to be gay, your out. 1.) Means gays have trouble finding other gays, and thus, finding others to romance while at work. 2.) Ordinary soldiers are in a 'buddy' relationship, means overall morale is higher. Look: If your gonna repeal DADT, might as well join male and female corps together under one roof.
This situation reminds me of watching several documentaries on prisoners. What happens to gays/straights when you introduce them into an all male environment? Straight prisoners that rape or have sex with other male inmates do not call themselves gay even though they are having intercourse with another male. I think the true problem lies in society. Prisoners are outside of society, and I believe that's the reason why it is more acceptable.
to be fair, just having sex with other men does not make you a homosexual
that whole first page made me rage so hard if you are against gays you are an idiot end of story
Not against gays, just don't understand them. That's why I came here ;)
[QUOTE=nevaeh;24969331]Not against gays, just don't understand them. That's why I came here ;)[/QUOTE] you probably are gay that's how it always works
I don't see why homosexuality is such a damn big deal. If someone is gay, so what? If it isn't normal, who cares, they aren't harming anyone. Flaunting it is annoying, but there are Christians who flaunt their Christianity, yet it isn't illegal to be Christian. And if you do get hit on by a gay guy, take it as a compliment. There are many things that are legal in America that I don't find normal, but they still deserve the same rights so long as they aren't harming anyone.
[QUOTE=thisispain;24969338]you probably are gay that's how it always works[/QUOTE] Haha nah, definitely attracted to the women figure. Gives me another purpose of life to add to my list.
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