• N. Korea states that it has an ICBM Engine
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In reality its a Lada Riva engine
decorative housing blocking off that the advanced rocket engine is just a giant can of hairspray
[QUOTE=Dwarden;50102420]message of peace ... EMP WMD detonated in LEO .... bye bye modern civilization ...[/QUOTE] Oddly enough most electronics would survive an EMP blast. We've ended up making really resistant devices in the last 40 years, just because of all the EMF shielding just because of legislation, and how compact devices have become.
[QUOTE=OvB;50100360]Would be interesting to see more pictures of the actual engine so we can figure out what it's a likely clone of to get a good estimate of its capabilities. If the North Koreans built a completely new design I would be impressed.[/QUOTE] I would be impressed to find out they had the resources to build a clone. In all likelihood they just bought one off the secondhand market.
[QUOTE=TestECull;50104675]I would be impressed to find out they had the resources to build a clone. In all likelihood they just bought one off the secondhand market.[/QUOTE] I would like to know what market sells secondhand ICBMs to anyone expressing interest in buying them.
[QUOTE=antianan;50105027]I would like to know what market sells secondhand ICBMs to anyone expressing interest in buying them.[/QUOTE] We use ICBMs to launch satellites, in all likelihood that's all they needed to say.
[QUOTE=antianan;50105027]I would like to know what market sells secondhand ICBMs to anyone expressing interest in buying them.[/QUOTE] You don't even need to go to the black market to buy ICBM's if you know who to talk to.
[QUOTE=OvB;50105468]You don't even need to go to the black market to buy ICBM's if you know who to talk to.[/QUOTE] So who should i talk to procure an ICBM engine for.. testing?
[QUOTE=Richard Simmons;50105493]So who should i talk to procure an ICBM engine for.. testing?[/QUOTE] I'd start with [url]http://www.npoenergomash.ru/eng/dejatelnost/engines/[/url] [editline]10th April 2016[/editline] You probably also need to be super rich. The richer the better, actually. [quote=Elon Musk]So, I got through most of that, but the thing that I got hung up on was the rocket. Getting there in the first place. The US options from Boeing and Lockheed were simply too expensive. I couldn't afford them. So,[B] "I went to Russia three times to negotiate purchasing an ICBM."[/B] Of course. Desperate times call for desperate measures. I did three visits there and at the end of it,[B] I was able to negotiate a price actually, to buy three of them - three of the largest ICBMs in the Russian fleet - [/B]but they were still pretty expensive and by the third trip I actually came to the conclusion that I was operating under the wrong premise. [url]http://shitelonsays.com/transcript/elon-musk-the-future-of-energy-and-transport-2012-11-14[/url][/quote] Of course, a North Korean General is going to have a rougher time than an eccentric American Billionaire (Millionaire, at the time). Might have to sneak around a ton of regulations and hurdles. Still probably do-able. I've heard you can buy the warheads on the black market, too.
I'd be surprised if there were any legit nuclear warheads on the market anywhere. The Russians clamped down very hard when they realized what could happen and so far every warhead rumor has turned out to be a setup by the authorities.
[QUOTE=OvB;50105542]I'd start with [url]http://www.npoenergomash.ru/eng/dejatelnost/engines/[/url] [editline]10th April 2016[/editline] You probably also need to be super rich. The richer the better, actually. Of course, a North Korean General is going to have a rougher time than an eccentric American Billionaire (Millionaire, at the time). Might have to sneak around a ton of regulations and hurdles. Still probably do-able. I've heard you can buy the warheads on the black market, too.[/QUOTE] Well, yeah, this makes sense. I'm hearing they have been actively replacing their old rockets with the new ones, so why not make some money on what is going to be scrapped anyways.
[QUOTE=Binladen34;50104025]Oddly enough most electronics would survive an EMP blast. We've ended up making really resistant devices in the last 40 years, just because of all the EMF shielding just because of legislation, and how compact devices have become.[/QUOTE] however, our power grid is very vulnerable, which matters far more than your cellphone working
[QUOTE=Binladen34;50104025]Oddly enough most electronics would survive an EMP blast. We've ended up making really resistant devices in the last 40 years, just because of all the EMF shielding just because of legislation, and how compact devices have become.[/QUOTE] the el. grids would go down, if the el. grids go down, all grids and traffic go down after emergency generators runs out of fuel no natural gas, no oil, no energy no railroad (even gas powered needs signal systems) no airtraffic due to comm and radar issues collapse of usual road traffic due to all crossroads and info systems gone, any longer tunnels closed as no ventilation collapse of most of sea and river traffic due to navigation, communication issues try imagine any modern cargo-port, cranes w/o power most of industry same as hospitals out of order no heating, no cooling, no food preservation, no light ... no banking, no mobile, no internet just darkness ;) the modern civilization would be in chaos in 30 days w/o el. energy and you will not fix the el. network fast-enough on continent-wide damage knocking off all the key points there isn't such amount of 'backup' equipment nor manufacturing capacity it's known weakness and if it happens, it's game over
[QUOTE=Dwarden;50109108]the el. grids would go down, if the el. grids go down, all grids and traffic go down after emergency generators runs out of fuel no natural gas, no oil, no energy no railroad (even gas powered needs signal systems) no airtraffic due to comm and radar issues collapse of usual road traffic due to all crossroads and info systems gone, any longer tunnels closed as no ventilation collapse of most of sea and river traffic due to navigation, communication issues try imagine any modern cargo-port, cranes w/o power most of industry same as hospitals out of order no heating, no cooling, no food preservation, no light ... no banking, no mobile, no internet just darkness ;) the modern civilization would be in chaos in 30 days w/o el. energy and you will not fix the el. network fast-enough on continent-wide damage knocking off all the key points there isn't such amount of 'backup' equipment nor manufacturing capacity it's known weakness and if it happens, it's game over[/QUOTE] Except that the electrical grid wouldn't go down
[QUOTE=Dwarden;50109108]the el. grids would go down, if the el. grids go down, all grids and traffic go down after emergency generators runs out of fuel no natural gas, no oil, no energy no railroad (even gas powered needs signal systems) no airtraffic due to comm and radar issues collapse of usual road traffic due to all crossroads and info systems gone, any longer tunnels closed as no ventilation collapse of most of sea and river traffic due to navigation, communication issues try imagine any modern cargo-port, cranes w/o power most of industry same as hospitals out of order no heating, no cooling, no food preservation, no light ... no banking, no mobile, no internet just darkness ;) the modern civilization would be in chaos in 30 days w/o el. energy and you will not fix the el. network fast-enough on continent-wide damage knocking off all the key points there isn't such amount of 'backup' equipment nor manufacturing capacity it's known weakness and if it happens, it's game over[/QUOTE] The US holds enough fuel reserves to sustain emergency services, and run factories to replace most of the equipment lost in such a scenario. Emergency fuel reserves are estimated at 6 months. We'd have 6 months to replace enough of our systems to regain self sufficiency. That being said those 6 months would be complete chaos, but martial law (which would definitely be declared within hours) would quell all of it. It's not like this scenario was planned out at all. Shit, my dad is part of the emergency planning teams I've had amazing discussions on this topic. The US would be able to pull itself back together within a few years back to what it was. Then go kick the shit out of the aggressor. [editline]11th April 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=viperfan7;50109150]Except that the electrical grid wouldn't go down[/QUOTE] Also, no he's right the entire North East has a really shitty system in place.
It's probably not even an engine. I'm seeing a old, busted IBᶜM computer with stickers put on it to make it look like a war machine.
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