• Serbian president's convoy stoned in Kosovo
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[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;34081904]Albanians had the whole western Balkan region before the Slavs came in during the Migration Periods after the fall of Rome. If you want to go with the 'historical claims' bullshit argument, you should be supporting Albanians.[/QUOTE] Albanians don't really consider themselves Dacians/Illyrians. It's like saying Walloons are entitled to the Roman Empire because they have Latin/Roman heritage. It's another thing entirely than if they had an unbroken line of cultural heritage and successor states from the days of the Dacians/Illyrians.
[QUOTE=Gentlemanne;34081936]Albanians don't really consider themselves Dacians/Illyrians. It's like saying Walloons are entitled to the Roman Empire because they have Latin/Roman heritage. It's another thing entirely than if they had an unbroken line of cultural heritage and successor states from the days of the Dacians/Illyrians.[/QUOTE] Same argument can be said for the modern Serbian state today compared to the Kingdom of Serbia in the medieval ages, then.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;34081971]Same argument can be said for the modern Serbian state today compared to the Kingdom of Serbia in the medieval ages, then.[/QUOTE] Not really, since Serbia has an unbroken cultural heritage (in other words, it can still be considered the same nation) and besides a relativately short period of annexation (vassalage doesn't count), an unbroken line of successor states.
[QUOTE=Gentlemanne;34082218]Not really, since Serbia has an unbroken cultural heritage (in other words, it can still be considered the same nation) and besides a relativately short period of annexation (vassalage doesn't count), an unbroken line of successor states.[/QUOTE] Regardless of that, the people living in Kosovo are Albanians, not Serbs. They're there here and now, who lived there hundreds of years ago is irrelevant. Tell Polish people to get out of their western territory because it use to be mostly German. Tell the French to get out of France because it use to be mostly Celtic. Tell the Egyptian Arabs to get out of Egypt because it use to be mostly Coptic. Tell the Turks to get out of Turkey because it use to be mostly Greek.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;34082425]Regardless of that, the people living in Kosovo are Albanians, not Serbs. They're there here and now, who lived there hundreds of years ago is irrelevant. Tell Polish people to get out of their western territory because it use to be mostly German. Tell the French to get out of France because it use to be mostly Celtic. Tell the Egyptian Arabs to get out of Egypt because it use to be mostly Coptic. Tell the Turks to get out of Turkey because it use to be mostly Greek.[/QUOTE] Well, the French are by and large Celtic. I can handle the rest though.
[QUOTE=Gentlemanne;34082485]Well, the French are by and large Celtic. I can handle the rest though.[/QUOTE] The French are Germanic descendants of the Franks, not Celts. Those native to Brittany, France's north western peninsula are what use to be the Gaulish Celts.
[QUOTE='[Seed Eater];34081537']That's not true at all. Only 23 countries officially recognize the existence of the Republic of China/Taiwan, and it's a proper country. Are you going to tell me that Taiwan isn't a country, just because the majority of the world doesn't officially recognize it? Conversely, the ROC does not recognize China/PRC. Israel isn't recognized by 32 UN states. North Korea isn't recognized by Japan or S. Korea. Kosovo has all the major nations recognizing it, either officially or not. The only thing stopping them from being a sovereign nation is Serbia. I'm not familiar with the conflict with Kosovo or the politics behind it, so I can't say for certain that they should or should not be a separate nation, but they have the backing of much of the world. Enough of the world.[/QUOTE] You know, there's two types of recognition of independence for a reason: de facto and de jure. Taiwan is pretty much recognised by everybody de facto, but not de jure, because obviously they don't want to fuck up the relations with China. [QUOTE=wewt!;34081888]Gave it? You do realize that we split through war, right?[/QUOTE] Yes, sorry, wrong word. However, Serbia does recognise Slovenia and other former Yugoslav countries, beside, of course Kosovo.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;34082511]The French are Germanic descendants of the Franks, not Celts. Those native to Brittany, France's north western peninsula are what use to be the Gaulish Celts.[/QUOTE] You're mistaken on both counts. The Franks were a relativately small invasion force who took control of Roman Gaul, founded a bunch of kingdoms like Burgundy and gave the region it's present name of France but were not the dominant ethnicity in any period (the most purely Frankish descended people are the Flemish or the Dutch if I'm not mistaken.) The natives of Brittany are the descendants of the Britons. You know, the people who lived in England before the English, hence the name. They are fully Celt though. The rest of France has a smattering of Celtish heritage, weaker in the south, growing stronger in central France and the immediate surroundings of Ile-de-France.
No wonder there are still peace-keeping forces in that place. A good friend of my bro is stationed there, and I always get worried about him whenever shit happens (he's a great guy and he's been around me most of my childhood)
[QUOTE=Gentlemanne;34080746]Fucking savages, why didn't we let the Serbs finish the job?[/QUOTE] holy shit that's an amazing amount of racism.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;34082425] Tell Polish people to get out of their western territory because it use to be mostly German. [/QUOTE] Do it. Do it please.
[QUOTE=proch;34102176]Do it. Do it please.[/QUOTE] Is that serious or satirical?
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;34102361]Is that serious or satirical?[/QUOTE] Well this place is a shithole so I wouldn't have much against it honestly.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;34082425]Regardless of that, the people living in Kosovo are Albanians, not Serbs. They're there here and now, who lived there hundreds of years ago is irrelevant. Tell Polish people to get out of their western territory because it use to be mostly German. Tell the French to get out of France because it use to be mostly Celtic. Tell the Egyptian Arabs to get out of Egypt because it use to be mostly Coptic. Tell the Turks to get out of Turkey because it use to be mostly Greek.[/QUOTE] Actually Germany can still claim the western territory, it's just they gave up on it in the 70s due to the fact German reunification appeared impossible Tell me who the French all then. The Egyptians are the original Arabs, look it up Also what the fuck are you going on about, the Greeks mostly only controlled the coast of Turkey in the bronze age
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