• Iran renews help offer to US on oil spill
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[QUOTE=RidingKeys;22858692]Okay I'm sorry sir, but you are not going to be able to launch a nuke, or even detonate one from two(most likely) cargo ships. Not only that but if there is even the slight hint of any type of weaponry aboard those ships, they'd be instantly fucked.[/quote] Its not like it was 60 years ago. Nukes arent the size of school buses anymore. And I'd hope that if they were caught, they would be stopped before they could do any damage. [quote]Also, I'm pretty sure that a bunch of aid workers aren't going to be trusted with the Activation codes to a nuclear weapon. Good day sir.[/QUOTE] You seem to be missing my point, which is that it wouldnt be aid workers, it'd be extermists on those ships, and with the button to push. [editline]03:37PM[/editline] [QUOTE=IStanI;22858956][IMG]http://images.whatport80.com/images/9/9e/HA_HA_HA,_OH_WOW.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] Well, please, correct me. I don't see Israel wishing death to all the Arab countries around it, but apparently you have some other source that says otherwise. Share it with me.
[QUOTE=Ridge;22858536] Both countries are pricks. But Israel is fighting for it's survival, while Iran is fighting to blow Israel off the face of the map because they aren't muslim. I've spent a lot of time reading up on this topic, which is why sometimes it takes me a while to post. I'm doing research. I'm not making my feelings facts.[/QUOTE] Yes because killing civilians = fighting for survival, right? [editline]05:38PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Ridge;22858985] You seem to be missing my point, which is that it wouldnt be aid workers, it'd be extermists on those ships, and with the button to push. [/QUOTE] Yes, because obviously nukes are launched with a button right? Nukes aren't made like they are in movies or like they were back then sir, they have a lot more safety standards put on them to ensure shit doesn't go wrong.
[QUOTE=RidingKeys;22859016]Yes because killing civilians = fighting for survival, right?[/QUOTE] Israel isn't killing civilians. They are defending themselves against people with guns and rockets and explosives that are walking into shopping malls and blowing themselves up. As for the aid ship and the blockade. Israel was putting troops on that ship to search for weapons. It was the "peaceful" protestors on that ship that started attacking them, stabbing them, trying to hang them when the troops opened fire.
I think the problem is, that the US may believe that accepting help from Iran, who have been in opposition to the US for some times, would make the US seem weak in the worlds eyes.
[QUOTE=Ridge;22858985]Its not like it was 60 years ago. Nukes arent the size of school buses anymore. And I'd hope that if they were caught, they would be stopped before they could do any damage. You seem to be missing my point, which is that it wouldnt be aid workers, it'd be extermists on those ships, and with the button to push. [editline]03:37PM[/editline] Well, please, correct me. I don't see Israel wishing death to all the Arab countries around it, but apparently you have some other source that says otherwise. Share it with me.[/QUOTE] Hey Mr. Ignorant, the nuclear bomb encased in briefcases still take a massive detonator to explode, second of all, Israel has time and time again shown to be hostile to almost everyone around it, so shut up.
[QUOTE=RidingKeys;22859016]Yes, because obviously nukes are launched with a button right? Nukes aren't made like they are in movies or like they were back then sir, they have a lot more safety standards put on them to ensure shit doesn't go wrong.[/QUOTE] Well I would have said keys, but you'd mock that, too. Modern bombs made by countries that want to limit danger to themselves build bombs with safeguards and pressure switches and all that shit. The extremists dont give a shit. If they had a bomb and they had to twist two wires together to get it to blow, they would do it.
[QUOTE=Ridge;22859056]Israel isn't killing civilians. They are defending themselves against people with guns and rockets and explosives that are walking into shopping malls and blowing themselves up. As for the aid ship and the blockade. Israel was putting troops on that ship to search for weapons. It was the "peaceful" protestors on that ship that started attacking them, stabbing them, trying to hang them when the troops opened fire.[/QUOTE] Ahahahahahah oooohhhh god... [editline]12:41AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Ridge;22859097]Well I would have said keys, but you'd mock that, too. Modern bombs made by countries that want to limit danger to themselves build bombs with safeguards and pressure switches and all that shit. The extremists dont give a shit. If they had a bomb and they had to twist two wires together to get it to blow, they would do it.[/QUOTE] My god you are ignorant and misinformed. Read up on the subject before you senselessly squabble on.
[QUOTE=Sickle;22859077]Hey Mr. Ignorant, the nuclear bomb encased in briefcases still take a massive detonator to explode, second of all, Israel has time and time again shown to be hostile to almost everyone around it, so shut up.[/QUOTE] Israel is hostile, yes, but the only time it has ever gone on the offensive was when it bombed the Iraqi nuclear facility in the 90s.
Also, I'm positive they aren't even producing any nukes, we have satellites that can see to the bottom of the ocean, i'm pretty sure we can find a missile silo hidden somewhere in Iran. edit: or even on a ship.
[QUOTE=Sickle;22859100]Ahahahahahah oooohhhh god... [editline]12:41AM[/editline] My god you are ignorant and misinformed. Read up on the subject before you senselessly squabble on.[/QUOTE] How about you fuckin read up on the subject. Instead of just laughing at what I'm saying, provide written proof that shows I am wrong. Until you do so, I will be right, and you will just be dodging.
[QUOTE=Ridge;22859114]Israel is hostile, yes, but the only time it has ever gone on the offensive was when it bombed the Iraqi nuclear facility in the 90s.[/QUOTE] And when it attacked the aid flotilla.
[QUOTE=Ridge;22859114]Israel is hostile, yes, but the only time it has ever gone on the offensive was when it bombed the Iraqi nuclear facility in the 90s.[/QUOTE] Because Israel didn't bomb a US ship during the Cold War? Watch some non-American news sources and you will see how corrupt Israel really is.
[QUOTE=RidingKeys;22859128]Also, I'm positive they aren't even producing any nukes, we have satellites that can see to the bottom of the ocean, i'm pretty sure we can find a missile silo hidden somewhere in Iran.[/QUOTE] We have doppler sattelites that can get a terrain map of the bottom of the ocean, but that is the closest to what you are saying. Also, we sure couldnt keep track of those SCUD launchers in Iraq back in 1991... Iran will likely not have a fixed base silo setup, it will probably be similar to the SCUD trucks, driving around with missiles on their backs until they get the go codes from the government.
[QUOTE=Ridge;22859056]Israel isn't killing civilians.[/QUOTE] hahaha do you live under a fucking rock or something? [img]http://isiria.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/white-phosphorus.jpg[/img] shelling a UN school with WP
[QUOTE=Sickle;22859170]And when it attacked the aid flotilla.[/QUOTE] I mentioned that above. It was not an offensive. It was boarding the ship to check for weapons, since the ship refused to land in an Israeli port and follow the proper procedures to get the aid delivered to Gaza.
[QUOTE=Ridge;22858985]Its not like it was 60 years ago. Nukes arent the size of school buses anymore. And I'd hope that if they were caught, they would be stopped before they could do any damage.[/quote] Just because you saw it on 24 or every other sci-fi movie does not mean Nuclear weapons are about the size of an iPod. And like I said earlier, the dumbest leader in the world would know that the rest of the world will hate Iran if they were caught with intentions of doing harm to the US by their shoreline. [QUOTE=Ridge;22858985] You seem to be missing my point, which is that it wouldnt be aid workers, it'd be extermists on those ships, and with the button to push.[/QUOTE] First off, you're missing the rest of ours.
[QUOTE=RidingKeys;22859177]Because Israel didn't bomb a US ship during the Cold War? Watch some non-American news sources and you will see how corrupt Israel really is.[/QUOTE] Yep, that was bullshit, and covered up expertly by both governments. However, since neither government admits to it, it cannot be irrefutably proven, and as such, I left that out.
[QUOTE=Ridge;22859148]How about you fuckin read up on the subject. Instead of just laughing at what I'm saying, provide written proof that shows I am wrong. Until you do so, I will be right, and you will just be dodging.[/QUOTE] Because what Israel has done, common sense and what is laid out in front of you isn't proof enough.
[QUOTE=JDK721;22859188]hahaha do you live under a fucking rock or something? [IMG]http://isiria.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/white-phosphorus.jpg[/IMG] shelling a UN school with WP[/QUOTE] The photographers conveniently didnt have their cameras ready when the mortars were being launched from that playground, huh?
[QUOTE=Ridge;22859056]It was the "peaceful" protestors on that ship that started attacking them, stabbing them, trying to hang them when the troops opened fire.[/QUOTE] lol so they don't have the right to defend themselves in international waters? the Israelis stormed the ship with weapons. THEY assaulted the ship first by doing that. [editline]05:46PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Ridge;22859230]The photographers conveniently didnt have their cameras ready when the mortars were being launched from that playground, huh?[/QUOTE] you are an absolute idiot [img]http://rainbowwarrior2005.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/rocket.jpg[/img] wow, look at that. ~so destructive~
[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;22859205]Just because you saw it on 24 or every other sci-fi movie does not mean Nuclear weapons are about the size of an iPod. And like I said earlier, the dumbest leader in the world would know that the rest of the world will hate Iran if they were caught with intentions of doing harm to the US by their shoreline.[/quote] I never said you could fit a nuke in your pocket. Many of them are closer to the size of a person, now. That is how they can fit 24 warheads in a single ICBM. [quote]First off, you're missing the rest of ours.[/QUOTE] Which is what? Give them a chance, if they turn Louisiana into a parking lot then sorry, we were wrong?
[QUOTE=Ridge;22859214]Yep, that was bullshit, and covered up expertly by both governments. However, since neither government admits to it, it cannot be irrefutably proven, and as such, I left that out.[/QUOTE] Obviously complete bullshit, since even a fighter pilot came forth and told his story on it, even fucking members of the torpedo boats came forth and told the story. Yah, pretty sure they were all lying out there asshole though.
[QUOTE=JDK721;22859232]lol so they don't have the right to defend themselves in international waters? the Israelis stormed the ship with weapons. THEY assaulted the ship first by doing that.[/quote] The ship was violating their laws, and attempting to run a blockade. Any country that wanted to protect itself would do the same. [quote]you are an absolute idiot [IMG]http://rainbowwarrior2005.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/rocket.jpg[/IMG] wow, look at that. ~so destructive~[/QUOTE] Definately looks liked an exploding rocket to me...
[QUOTE=Ridge;22859214]Yep, that was bullshit, and covered up expertly by both governments. However, since neither government admits to it, it cannot be irrefutably proven, and as such, I left that out.[/QUOTE] "Yeah um, it was reported and proven, but since no one admits to it and it proves my argument wrong, I think I'll leave it out."
[QUOTE=Ridge;22859276]Which is what? Give them a chance, if they turn Louisiana into a parking lot then sorry, we were wrong?[/QUOTE] do you watch Fox News or something Iran isn't a threat
[QUOTE=RidingKeys;22859304]Obviously complete bullshit, since even a fighter pilot came forth and told his story on it, even fucking members of the torpedo boats came forth and told the story. Yah, pretty sure they were all lying out there asshole though.[/QUOTE] The government denied it. The US agreed, and they chose to deny it, too. We all know that the US bombed Laos into the stone age, too. But the government denied it. [editline]03:49PM[/editline] [QUOTE=JDK721;22859324]do you watch Fox News or something Iran isn't a threat[/QUOTE] Then go hang out with them. Have a party, and invite Kim Jong Il, too.
[QUOTE=Ridge;22859056]Israel isn't killing civilians.[/QUOTE] [img]http://images.whatport80.com/images/9/9e/HA_HA_HA,_OH_WOW.jpg[/img]
Holy shit Israel is so innocnet. Look at the thread below this one.
[QUOTE=Jund;22857906]Then why the fuck won't they take it?[/QUOTE] I donnu. I would take it if I were them. I'm sure they have some reason though.
Honestly, do you really think that Ahmadinejad is willing to dispatch a team of Muslim Extremists on an relief vessel with a said 'nuke device' to American Waters and tells them to 'blow up Louisiana'? He's dumb but he's not that stupid. And I bet the entire Iranian Cabinet, including it's diplomats and ambassadors are in some Supersecret Muslim Group dedicated to destroying America.
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