Missouri police chief resigns after caging family’s lost puppy at a gun range and shooting it
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[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;49324027]"Humanely" my ass, he took it to a firing range and shot it. Using a fucking family pet as target practice is not humane in any sense of the word.[/QUOTE]
I know, it sucks shit for the animal and whoever owned it. But at least he didn't do something fucked up like abandon it in the woods or strangle it. Shooting it (i'm assuming a headshot) is painless and instant. He's not a heartless piece of shit like some people in this thread like to believe. He was faced with a situation and did the stupid decision, to not only waste time driving to a range when he had a call for a car accident to attend to, he killed it without waiting the required period.
what a goddamn fuckstick, let's put him in a cage and 'destroy' him too, beats the costs of getting it back into the system
[QUOTE=zombini;49325055]I know, it sucks shit for the animal and whoever owned it. But at least he didn't do something fucked up like abandon it in the woods or strangle it. Shooting it (i'm assuming a headshot) is painless and instant. He's not a heartless piece of shit like some people in this thread like to believe. He was faced with a situation and did the stupid decision, to not only waste time driving to a range when he had a call for a car accident to attend to, he killed it without waiting the required period.[/QUOTE]
"Heartless piece of shit" is actually [I]exactly[/I] how I would describe him, personally. Perhaps he didn't [I]torture[/I] the dog, but he did capture a family pet, toss it in cage, execute it without remorse, lie about it, and then try to play the whole thing off like he was just doing what he needed to do and this rough old world couldn't accept that.
What the fuck???
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;49324234]Which brings us back to the old debate about dog breed bans, which have been proven over and over again to be ill-conceived and ultimately worthless. Pit bulls, nor any other dog breed, are inherently violent towards people. Major studies have concluded beyond all shadow of a doubt that prohibiting certain breeds of dogs does not address the factors that lead to dog attacks in the first place, and are thus not effective. The vast majority of dog attacks that occur are attributed to [I]external[/I] factors or socialization issues as a result of abuse or neglect, not breed.[/QUOTE]
agreed, its the same argument behind the prohibition of anything, really. Booze, guns, drugs, dogs, its not about the thing itself, it's about the people behind the thing.
if you're a shithead, you'll likely raise shithead pets.
That's horrible, I feel terrible for the family
While I generally agree that Pitbulls are more aggressive than other dogs (based on information I read in this article: [url]http://time.com/2891180/kfc-and-the-pit-bull-attack-of-a-little-girl/[/url]) it's still extremely terrible what this dude did. Should be charged.
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;49324027]"Humanely" my ass, he took it to a firing range and shot it. Using a fucking family pet as target practice is not humane in any sense of the word.[/QUOTE]
Its just, how is this not pretty humane?(btw I dont agree with what this scumbag did, I think what he did shooting the puppy is fucked instead of just giving it to a shelter, especially since puppies arent put down usually since they have a very high adopt rate)
A gunshot, if done right(which I hope this dumbass at least did) would be instant and painless, and just messy at the most.
Im sorry, if I wasnt so opposed to desecrating my personal pets body, or not wanting to see their bloody body, I would shoot them instead of bringing them to a vet they hate, into some cold sterile table, while they get needles put into them to die.
Farmers shoot livestock that are pretty much too sick to live or continue, and thats considered humane.
[QUOTE=HoodedSniper;49326597]
Farmers shoot livestock that are pretty much too sick to live or continue, and thats considered humane.[/QUOTE]
But this dog wasn't?
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;49326613]But this dog wasn't?[/QUOTE]
I know, im saying, if its going to be put down, how is this somehow not humane? Does killing an animal somehow change from animal to animal if its a bullet to the brain? Im going off the fact it was 100% going to be killed. If you read my post you could see I was completely against this option, but im arguing against the fact its somehow not a humane way to kill an animal when its largely the most humane way to kill an animal in plenty of other examples.
Arguing if the dog was put down humanely or not is irrelevant.
It was not his call to make.
Fucking piece of shit. Somebody should shoot his balls off.
[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;49323513]At rate at which people wish to throw others into such place, they can band together and free themselves and overthrow the world.[/QUOTE]
Uhhhh what?
[QUOTE=0x0000000C;49326952]Fucking piece of shit. Somebody should shoot his balls off.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Recurracy;49325098]what a goddamn fuckstick, let's put him in a cage and 'destroy' him too, beats the costs of getting it back into the system[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=NeverGoWest;49323390]Hope he gets thrown in the deepest, darkest dungeon and then completely forgotten about.[/QUOTE]
Quality posts guys.
[QUOTE=Sableye;49323045]Why does he act as if the puppy is an item not an animal...we don't destroy animals...[/QUOTE]
But we do? They are owned as property. Not all countries even have laws that protect animals from mistreatment.
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;49324027]"Humanely" my ass, he took it to a firing range and shot it. Using a fucking family pet as target practice is not humane in any sense of the word.[/QUOTE]
Please explain how being killed instantly is not humane in any definition of the word?
It's fucked up but it really doesn't matter where it happened, instant death is humane.
[QUOTE=Radical_ed;49327692]Please explain how being killed instantly is not humane in any definition of the word?
It's fucked up but it really doesn't matter where it happened, instant death is humane.[/QUOTE]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/SYyO6qn.png[/img]
Shooting a dog because it's convenient to the shooter is neither of those things.
In addition to that, if he took it to the shooting range, he had to have expected to use more than one bullet.
Which is totally unnecessary.
[QUOTE=Pascall;49328031]In addition to that, if he took it to the shooting range, he had to have expected to use more than one bullet.
Which is totally unnecessary.[/QUOTE]
To clarify, I don't think he like, put the dog down range and took shots at it from 25 yards or anything, I think he just shot it in the range so he could fire the gun inside the building.
[QUOTE=Hunterdnrc;49328025][img]http://i.imgur.com/SYyO6qn.png[/img]
Shooting a dog because it's convenient to the shooter is neither of those things.[/QUOTE]
Are you against all killing of dogs in pounds? If not, how is shooting meaningfully different than any other way of killing?
[QUOTE=sgman91;49328150]Are you against all killing of dogs in pounds? If not, how is shooting meaningfully different than any other way of killing?[/QUOTE]
It wouldn't have mattered if he put it to sleep, the point being made is his actions are not humane. A shelter putting down a dog is. There is a purpose to the euthanization, they have to make room for more dogs who are hopefully found a home. That is a compassionate reason. Shooting a dog that was found because there were 'more important matters to attend to' which in this case means the dude didn't care/didn't want to deal with it is not humane in any sense of the word.
[editline]16th December 2015[/editline]
Humane killing is an oxymoron, it's a word that shouldn't be used in the killing of something, but at least shelters have a purpose that is legitimate/based in compassion. To break it down, putting down a dog because it has painful cancer is considered humane (even though from a semantics point that's a silly word to use), while shooting a dog because it is inconvenient, even if it was killed instantly, is not humane.
[QUOTE=Sableye;49323045]Why does he act as if the puppy is an item not an animal...we don't destroy animals...[/QUOTE]
Because he's a sociopath and that's what sociopaths do. They give exactly 0 fucks about anything that is not them.
[QUOTE=HoodedSniper;49326597]Its just, how is this not pretty humane?(btw I dont agree with what this scumbag did, I think what he did shooting the puppy is fucked instead of just giving it to a shelter, especially since puppies arent put down usually since they have a very high adopt rate)
A gunshot, if done right(which I hope this dumbass at least did) would be instant and painless, and just messy at the most.
Im sorry, if I wasnt so opposed to desecrating my personal pets body, or not wanting to see their bloody body, I would shoot them instead of bringing them to a vet they hate, into some cold sterile table, while they get needles put into them to die.
Farmers shoot livestock that are pretty much too sick to live or continue, and thats considered humane.[/QUOTE]
The act of unnecessarily killing a caged and harmless family pet is in itself inhumane. Killing this puppy was completely unjustified. ISIS lines people up and executes them with gunshots to the head, too. While a bullet to the brain may be painless, it is still the pointless and incompassionate end of an innocent life.
[editline]16th December 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=sgman91;49328150][B]Are you against all killing of dogs in pounds?[/B] If not, how is shooting meaningfully different than any other way of killing?[/QUOTE]
Yes. The only time there is legitimate need to put down a dog is when it is suffering from serious illness or injury, or is too violent/aggressive to be homed.
Destroy is a common term used when putting down animals. But normally for ones that are dangerous and cant be homed
[QUOTE=Hunterdnrc;49328175]It wouldn't have mattered if he put it to sleep, the point being made is his actions are not humane. A shelter putting down a dog is. There is a purpose to the euthanization, they have to make room for more dogs who are hopefully found a home. That is a compassionate reason.[/QUOTE]
Not to imply that the way he handled it was right, but what you describe is pretty what happened according to the articles.
[quote]It said a resident told Spencer that the dog was roaming the streets and feared the animal would hurt children. Pit bulls are prohibited in Sparta.
The report says Spencer caught the dog, but was unable to find a shelter that would take it.[/quote]
I don't see how a shelter killing a dog to get rid of it is any better than a police officer doing the same. I don't have an issue in theory with a police officer shooting a dog to put it down, but the articles suggest very little effort was made to reunite the dog with its proper owners. That's not right.
[QUOTE=27X;49328421]Because he's a sociopath and that's what sociopaths do. They give exactly 0 fucks about anything that is not them.[/QUOTE]
i wouldn't say quite that, some people are just raised to see animals and things differently, look at how much fear came out of just allowing gays to be, there are still major politicians that see gays as an affront to nature because one line out of one book told their parents to tell them its wrong
Killing a healthy and harmless dog is wrong in every single fucking sense possible.
You deserve to be locked up and turned into Bubba's bitch for doing something like this.
i feel like there is two types of people in the police force. The ones that want to help the community, and the ones who believe everything needs to be shot that does barely anything against a police officer.
[QUOTE=Deathtrooper2;49330566]i feel like there is two types of people in the police force. The ones that want to help the community, and the ones who believe everything needs to be shot that does barely anything against a police officer.[/QUOTE]
Yep, it's completely black and white. :rolleyes:
[QUOTE=NeverGoWest;49323390]Hope he gets thrown in the deepest, darkest dungeon and then completely forgotten about.[/QUOTE]
As a dog owner, I hope he gets destroyed.
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