• La. prison puts suicidal prisoners in dog-sized cages, makes them wear hot pants
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This is fucking ridiculous. I hope whoever is responsible for this gets what is coming to them.
[QUOTE=ButtsexV2;23244396]Most of Florida is more backwards than even the worst parts of Mississippi, Alabama, Louisana, etc.[/QUOTE] no, not really
Jesus LunchboxOfDoom is like the Gmod_fan77 of Prisons.
[QUOTE=JDK721;23244193]LunchboxOfDoom, I assume you're an alt? [editline]12:05AM[/editline] and apparently he enjoys cannibalism: [url]http://www.facepunch.com/showpost.php?p=23194065&postcount=2[/url] why am I not surprised[/QUOTE] I'd be more concerned about the fact that he's using a [i]child's[/i] ass.
"Hey look, suicidal prisoners. Let's put them into tiny ass cages, make them wear hotpants, and deny them entry to bathrooms. THAT'LL STOP THEM FROM WANTING TO KILL THEMSELVES"
[QUOTE=JDK721;23244471]no, not really[/QUOTE] the little bit of the south I haven't lived in, I've at least traveled to. it's just as bad. Especially in the panhandle.
maybe a child's ass has less hair on it?
[QUOTE=LunchboxOfDoom;23243945]How old are you? Nice Cyrus the Great icon, BTW. [/QUOTE] nice dodging the question also thanks
[QUOTE=ButtsexV2;23244502]the little bit of the south I haven't lived in, I've at least traveled to. it's just as bad. Especially in the panhandle.[/QUOTE] so certain areas you traveled to = the majority of florida? and the panhandle is basically the southern culture. but most of florida isn't like those shithole states you mentioned.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;23244184]LunchboxOfDoom has to be a troll,[/quote] Just because I don't follow along with your naivity does not make me a troll. [quote=Zeke129]I cannot come up with any other explanation that doesn't warrant the systematic extermination of the entire human race[/QUOTE] Not wanting to change the penal system in Louisiana =/= warranting the systematic extermination of the entire human race What fantasy land are you from? [QUOTE=JDK721;23244193]LunchboxOfDoom, I assume you're an alt?[/quote] Nope. Not sure why you'd assume so. [quote=JDK721]and apparently he enjoys cannibalism: [url]http://www.facepunch.com/showpost.php?p=23194065&postcount=2[/url] why am I not surprised[/QUOTE] Because we all know Facepunch = serious business. [QUOTE=Sigma-Lambda;23244287]hey lunch guy, totally regardless of your dumb sociopathic beliefs[/quote] See? It's funny how, when they disagree with people, they resort to namecalling to somehow prove their point. When it's just fallacious trolling. [quote=Sigma-Lambda]that you apparently believe yourself badass for holding (compassion and humanity are more badass btw),[/quote] For holding what? You never finished your sentence, dear. But on, where did I call myself a "badass"? I didn't. Because I'm not an egotistical jerk. [quote=Sigma-Lambda]you still like shitty ancient memes[/quote] Yes that DEFINITELY makes me a horrible human being. [quote=Sigma-Lambda]and think lowest common denominator trolling is cool[/quote] Again: just because I disagree with you does not make me a troll. It's cute that you resort to this kind of namecalling though. [quote=Sigma-Lambda]not only are you owning yourself[/quote] Oh please, call it a day on the insults already. They're getting old. [quote=Sigma-Lambda]you're acting all transparently smug about it[/quote] What fantasy land do you live in? I assume it's not far away from Zeke's. [quote=Sigma-Lambda]at this point there is nothing you could post that would not be another shovelful of dirt out of the "giant dilz" hole you're digging yourself into[/QUOTE] Translation: "You disagree with me; shut up and go away! I hate you!" [QUOTE=Zeke129;23244143]Oh my god You need to stop posting ASAP[/QUOTE] After you, I insist. [QUOTE=Xen Tricks;23244165]Jesus, you are a psychopath.[/quote] No, not really. [quote=Xen Tricks]These are fucking people, not monsters,[/quote] These are convicts in prison. That includes rapists, murderers who didn't get stuck on death row, child molesters, arsonists, you name it. A really pleasant lot. Honestly, I think you'd be quite happy with them. They're so nice and caring and considerate for other people's rights and humanity... /sarcasm [quote=Xen Tricks]they deserve basic human rights[/quote] Which they have. [quote=Xen Tricks]and reasonable treatment.[/quote] Define "reasonable treatment". Again, this is a matter of your opinion. What is and is not reasonable. As far as this in Louisiana goes, I really don't care. They're not going to change anything. [quote=Xen Tricks]It's fair to say a majority of people in jail aren't serial rapist-murderer-arsonists,[/quote] Actually, the United States has, asides from the LARGEST prisoner population in the WORLD, as of 2008, 1.3 million violent criminals on record. [url]http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm[/url] [quote=Xen Tricks]and they obviously don't deserve this.[/QUOTE] Again, maybe you're missing the position that I don't really care. Your statement here is a matter of opinion. Nothing more. And this whining from the ACLU isn't going to change anything. [QUOTE=Chippay;23244587]nice dodging the question[/quote] That's ironic. [quote=Chippay]also thanks[/QUOTE] You're welcome. I happen to be a fan of Cyrus and Ancient Persia.
[QUOTE=LunchboxOfDoom;23244638]Just because I don't follow along with your naivity does not make me a troll. Not wanting to change the penal system in Louisiana =/= warranting the systematic extermination of the entire human race What fantasy land are you from? Nope. Not sure why you'd assume so. Because we all know Facepunch = serious business. See? It's funny how, when they disagree with people, they resort to namecalling to somehow prove their point. When it's just fallacious trolling. For holding what? You never finished your sentence, dear. But on, where did I call myself a "badass"? I didn't. Because I'm not an egotistical jerk. Yes that DEFINITELY makes me a horrible human being. Again: just because I disagree with you does not make me a troll. It's cute that you resort to this kind of namecalling though. Oh please, call it a day on the insults already. They're getting old. What fantasy land do you live in? I assume it's not far away from Zeke's. Translation: "You disagree with me; shut up and go away! I hate you!" After you, I insist. No, not really. [B] These are convicts in prison. That includes rapists, murderers who didn't get stuck on death row, child molesters, arsonists, you name it. A really pleasant lot. Honestly, I think you'd be quite happy with them. They're so nice and caring and considerate for other people's rights and humanity... /sarcasm [/B] Which they have. Define "reasonable treatment". Again, this is a matter of your opinion. What is and is not reasonable. As far as this in Louisiana goes, I really don't care. They're not going to change anything. Actually, the United States has, asides from the LARGEST prisoner population in the WORLD, as of 2008, 1.3 million violent criminals on record. [URL]http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm[/URL] Again, maybe you're missing the position that I don't really care. Your statement here is a matter of opinion. Nothing more. And this whining from the ACLU isn't going to change anything. That's ironic. You're welcome. I happen to be a fan of Cyrus and Ancient Persia.[/QUOTE] So you don't care about people with mental health issues being abused and treated like animals just because they're in prison. That... pretty much matches the definition of sociopath. And stop using that opinion bullshit, it's not an opinion that people shouldn't have to piss in their fucking cell. And the bold part especially, do you not understand the concept of justice? Do you not know what prisons are for? They're not some corral to put criminals in and treat them like animals, making them worse than they ever were. Most criminals are going to get out of prison at some point, do you think they're gonna be well adjusted members of society after shit like this?
Lunchbox, how would you feel if you messed up and were sent into a box, with your only source of being relieved was a tiny cage's corner? And, on top of that, wearing ridiculous clothing? Insult to injury. (Actually, I feel it would be best for you to find out yourself.) It's cruel. Take just a few steps back and prisons would be worse than medieval dungeons.
Lunchbox. You are not a psychologist. You have no idea what you are talking about. You should really [b]Stop Posting[/b]
[QUOTE=LunchboxOfDoom;23244638]These are convicts in prison. That includes rapists, murderers who didn't get stuck on death row, child molesters, arsonists, you name it. A really pleasant lot. Honestly, I think you'd be quite happy with them. They're so nice and caring and considerate for other people's rights and humanity... /sarcasm[/QUOTE] [quote=Hamlet]God's bodykins, man, much better! Use every man after his desert, and who should scape whipping? Use them after your own honour and dignity. The less they deserve, the more merit is in your bounty.[/quote]
LA gets worse every day
[QUOTE=LunchboxOfDoom;23244638]These are convicts in prison. That includes rapists, murderers who didn't get stuck on death row, child molesters, arsonists, you name it.[/QUOTE] Even though I think basic human rights should extend to all manner of prisoner, severity of the crime regardless, still I have to comment on what you said here with the fact that not everyone in prison is an evil violent offender. There are people that are in for drug charges or any assortment of vice laws, those that could messed up just once with theft, maybe out of desperation or who knows why. Heck, even repeat offenders, the kinds that would still never actually physically hurt anyone. Either way, a lot of prisoners are just like anyone else, just having made a mistake. What you said here is no justification.
[QUOTE=Xen Tricks;23244715]So you don't care about people with mental health issues being abused and treated like animals just because they're in prison. That... pretty much matches the definition of sociopath.[/quote] Not really. I'm not antisocial. I don't think ALL people should be treated like animals, just the ones that have done wrong to another person who has done nothing. [quote=Xen Tricks]And stop using that opinion bullshit, it's not an opinion that people shouldn't have to piss in their fucking cell.[/quote] By that line of thought, they shouldn't have to use the provided toilets in their cells to begin with lol. [quote=Xen Tricks]And the bold part especially, do you not understand the concept of justice?[/quote] I'm wondering if you do. I do. Too many people toss words around like this too loosely anymore, just because it sounds good. [quote=Xen Tricks]Do you not know what prisons are for? They're not some corral to put criminals in and treat them like animals, making them worse than they ever were.[/quote] They are there to incarcerate those who have done wrong from those who have done nothing wrong- the innocents. Apparently, you don't understand the concept of justice. Let me help you: [b]Justice is the concept of moral rightness based on ethics, rationality, law, natural law, religion, fairness, or equity, along with the punishment of the breach of said ethics.[/b] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justice[/url] [quote=Xen Tricks]Most criminals are going to get out of prison at some point, do you think they're gonna be well adjusted members of society after shit like this?[/QUOTE] If they have enough sense to have come to the conclusion that prison sucks, that it was absolute hell for them, and that they never want to go back again, yes, they will become adjusted. They will learn. [QUOTE=Cheshire_cat;23244744]Lunchbox, how would you feel if you messed up and were sent into a box, with your only source of being relieved was a tiny cage's corner? And, on top of that, wearing ridiculous clothing? Insult to injury.[/quote] This not taking into account the fact that I've committed a crime and am no innocent person, showing no regards for society's laws or other people from a third-person perspective. With that said, yes, I would be complaining too. Just like I would be complaining with the English prisoners I talked about above who complained about the "repetitiveness of the meals". With that said, I am no criminal, I am an innocent person, I do show regard for society's laws and other innocent people. And I intend to stay that way, especially because of the punishments and hell prison holds. [quote=Cheshire_cat](Actually, I feel it would be best for you to find out yourself.)[/quote] I feel it would be best for you to actually visit a prison for once and actually find out what kind of idiotic scum you'd be surrounded with. They are there for a reason... why so many people have trouble getting this through their heads is beyond me. Naivety, I suppose. [quote=Cheshire_cat]It's cruel.[/quote] Life's cruel. Sorry to disappoint you. [quote=Cheshire_cat]Take just a few steps back and prisons would be worse than medieval dungeons.[/QUOTE] Because we all know that solitary confinement of this nature = Medieval torture... Since when do prisons regularly torture their inmates? They don't. With that said, prison is no happy place to be. As far as suicidal inmates are concerned, it really wouldn't surprise me if they've all considered it at one point or another because of the conditions. But again they chose to break the law and they wound up there as a result. Don't expect me to cry for them... especially since my taxes go to paying for their existence, which in the case of life in prison inmates, is quite honestly wasteful. [quote=Kyle902]Lunchbox. You are not a psychologist. You have no idea what you are talking about.[/quote] Kyle. Neither are you. You have no idea what you are talking about. [quote]God's bodykins, man, much better! Use every man after his desert, and who should scape whipping? Use them after your own honour and dignity. The less they deserve, the more merit is in your bounty.[/quote] I'm not proposing regular torture, as too many incorrectly believe. But thank you for the Shakespeare quote. [QUOTE=Ceremor;23244877]Even though I think basic human rights should extend to all manner of prisoner, severity of the crime regardless, still I have to comment on what you said here with the fact that not everyone in prison is an evil violent offender.[/quote] No, but the truth is 1.3 million are. And that's ridiculous. That's more than RUSSIA has... you know we're doing something wrong when rates get that out of whack. [quote=Ceremor]There are people that are in for drug charges or any assortment of vice laws, those that could messed up just once with theft, maybe out of desperation or who knows why.[/quote] Yes, there are these kinds of people too. But the fact is, they are a minority compared to the violent ones in there. We have to build our basis for this work on the grounds of the majority's backgrounds, not each and every individual for their specific case. That's just not feasible. [quote=Ceremor]Heck, even repeat offenders, the kinds that would still never actually physically hurt anyone.[/quote] But they have committed an offense again and have shown no respect for the law, the very thing that keeps society together. They will learn or they will face the consequences. That's how simple it is. [quote=Ceremor]Either way, a lot of prisoners are just like anyone else, just having made a mistake.What you said here is no justification.[/quote] Like anyone else? No, not really. How many people in your family can you name off the top of your head who have been or are convicted felons? Hell- people you associate with? I have none, hope you don't. Thankfully, you aren't one of these people. Neither is anyone else posting here. As of right now, anyway. It's been common sense and self-discipline that's kept you all out of trouble and (hopefully) out of prison. And regard for the law and other people like yourselves: innocents. Be thankful.
[QUOTE=LunchboxOfDoom;23245009]Not really. I'm not antisocial. I don't think ALL people should be treated like animals, just the ones that have done wrong to another person who has done nothing. By that line of thought, they shouldn't have to use the provided toilets in their cells to begin with lol. I'm wondering if you do. I do. Too many people toss words around like this too loosely anymore, just because it sounds good. They are there to incarcerate those who have done wrong from those who have done nothing wrong- the innocents. Apparently, you don't understand the concept of justice. Let me help you: [B]Justice is the concept of moral rightness based on ethics, rationality, law, natural law, religion, fairness, or equity, along with the punishment of the breach of said ethics.[/B] [URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justice[/URL] [B]If they have enough sense to have come to the conclusion that prison sucks, that it was absolute hell for them, and that they never want to go back again, yes, they will become adjusted. They will learn. [/B] This not taking into account the fact that I've committed a crime and am no innocent person, showing no regards for society's laws or other people from a third-person perspective. With that said, yes, I would be complaining too. Just like I would be complaining with the English prisoners I talked about above who complained about the "repetitiveness of the meals". With that said, I am no criminal, I am an innocent person, I do show regard for society's laws and other innocent people. And I intend to stay that way, especially because of the punishments and hell prison holds. I feel it would be best for you to actually visit a prison for once and actually find out what kind of idiotic scum you'd be surrounded with. They are there for a reason... why so many people have trouble getting this through their heads is beyond me. Naivety, I suppose. Life's cruel. Sorry to disappoint you. Because we all know that solitary confinement of this nature = Medieval torture... Since when do prisons regularly torture their inmates? They don't. With that said, prison is no happy place to be. As far as suicidal inmates are concerned, it really wouldn't surprise me if they've all considered it at one point or another because of the conditions. But again they chose to break the law and they wound up there as a result. Don't expect me to cry for them... especially since my taxes go to paying for their existence, which in the case of life in prison inmates, is quite honestly wasteful. Kyle. Neither are you. You have no idea what you are talking about. I'm not proposing regular torture, as too many incorrectly believe. But thank you for the Shakespeare quote. No, but the truth is 1.3 million are. And that's ridiculous. That's more than RUSSIA has... you know we're doing something wrong when rates get that out of whack. [B]Yes, there are these kinds of people too. But the fact is, they are a minority compared to the violent ones in there. We have to build our basis for this work on the grounds of the majority's backgrounds, not each and every individual for their specific case. That's just not feasible.[/B] But they have committed an offense again and have shown no respect for the law, the very thing that keeps society together. They will learn or they will face the consequences. That's how simple it is. Like anyone else? No, not really. How many people in your family can you name off the top of your head who have been or are convicted felons? Hell- people you associate with? I have none, hope you don't. Thankfully, you aren't one of these people. Neither is anyone else posting here. As of right now, anyway. It's been common sense and self-discipline that's kept you all out of trouble and (hopefully) out of prison. And regard for the law and other people like yourselves: innocents. Be thankful.[/QUOTE] So it's ethical, moral, and fair to treat a person as less than human for they've done? Even if it was a minor crime? And bold 1: You're an idiot if you think it would be a deterrent, always keep in mind no one commits a crime expecting to go to jail. And they're obviously not rational, right minded people, and they're not gonna be even more so after this, you think they're gonna consider "hmm I might go back to jail" before they commit a crime? Bold 2: Ok, you obviously don't understand our justice system. We don't punish the majority and go "oh well" when the minority gets fucked over. why do you think innocent people going to jail is such a big problem? People don't (well reasonable people unlike yourself) don't think that just because 100 bad guys got caught, one good guy going to jail is a-ok.
[QUOTE=LunchboxOfDoom;23245009]They will learn or they will face the consequences. That's how simple it is.[/QUOTE] Still in the strict law-and-order black-and-white stage of mental development, I see. Don't worry, you'll grow out of it.
There is absolutely nothing I can say to lunchbox that won't simply drag me down to his level so I am done humouring him. He can cling to his juvenile sociopathic beliefs all he wants, I'll rest assured that he will never be allowed to make decisions regarding the justice system while he holds this absolutely asinine mindset.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;23245282]There is absolutely nothing I can say to lunchbox that won't simply drag me down to his level so I am done humouring him. He can cling to his juvenile sociopathic beliefs all he wants, I'll rest assured that he will never be allowed to make decisions regarding the justice system while he holds this absolutely asinine mindset.[/QUOTE] Good point, i'm done. Nothing I can say will crack his hateful, immature mindset.
Wow, this is just fucked up. Americas prison system as a whole is fucked up, locking someone who had an ounce of pot on them in the same cell as a murder is not going to solve any problems. All this prison system does is make people angry and bitter towards others and fuck over any chance of having a normal life that have after being released. Prisons should focused more on rehabilitation then punishment. Norway's prisons have better living conditions then most other countries and they have one of the lowest re-offense rates in the world.
[QUOTE=Acesarge;23245419] Prisons should focused more on rehabilitation then punishment. Norway's prisons have better living conditions then most other countries and they have one of the lowest re-offense rates in the world.[/QUOTE] All countries should emulate Norway. Canada had vikings living here for a short period of time so we should be eligible to join you
[QUOTE=Zeke129;23245608]All countries should emulate Norway. Canada had vikings living here for a short period of time so we should be eligible to join you[/QUOTE] I have a little Norwegian blood, can I come?
All prisoners should be forced to do this: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMnk7lh9M3o[/media]
[QUOTE=BobbyHill;23244867]LA gets worse every day[/QUOTE] Gosh dang it Bobby, get back inside, you're to young to be talkin' about prisoners.
[QUOTE=LunchboxOfDoom;23244638] See? It's funny how, when they disagree with people, they resort to namecalling to somehow prove their point. When it's just fallacious trolling.[/quote] when the point of contention is something that is as supposedly universal as a sense of human dignity and what constitutes it's violation there's not much to do but call people big fat jerks [QUOTE=LunchboxOfDoom;23244638]For holding what? You never finished your sentence, dear.[/quote] read that sentence again "hey lunch guy, totally regardless of your dumb sociopathic beliefs that you apparently believe yourself badass for holding (compassion and humanity are more badass btw)," "dumb sociopathic beliefs that you apparently believe yourself badass for holding " learn 2 grammar broheim. The verb came after the noun this time. english is fun [QUOTE=LunchboxOfDoom;23244638]But on, where did I call myself a "badass"? I didn't. Because I'm not an egotistical jerk.[/quote] It's not openly stated, but it's implicit in the way you parse your arguments. Subtext and context are important. [QUOTE=LunchboxOfDoom;23244638]Yes that DEFINITELY makes me a horrible human being.[/quote] no it just makes you a bad poster [QUOTE=LunchboxOfDoom;23244638]Again: just because I disagree with you does not make me a troll. It's cute that you resort to this kind of namecalling though.[/quote] I'm not saying you're a troll, I'm saying that either possible state, that is; you = troll or, the opposite state, you = not troll, has equally negative connotations for who you are [QUOTE=LunchboxOfDoom;23244638]Oh please, call it a day on the insults already. They're getting old.[/QUOTE] oh please, call it a day on the defense of indefensible violations of human rights already. it's getting old [QUOTE=LunchboxOfDoom;23244638]Translation: "You disagree with me; shut up and go away! I hate you!" [/QUOTE] Ay, there's the rub. But it's not so much that I hate you as it is that you're hated.
Give it up Sigma-Lambda, some people just don't debate to learn and understand, as a matter of fact, most people treat debating like it's a game of football, a competition sport.
Wow that's kinky.
That's just sick. Guards and policemen make me ashamed of the human race, sadistic bastards.
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