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[QUOTE=Prismatex;28050751]Fox News: accusing stroke victims of being drunk since 2011.
[url]http://nation.foxnews.com/grammys/2011/02/14/drunk-cbs-reporter-speaks-utter-gibberish-grammys?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter[/url][/QUOTE]
You're jumping on a Headline, an attention grabber!
The headline was written "Drunk? CBS Reporter Speaks Utter Gibberish at Grammys." because of how she sounded. Now this it what it said under the Headline:
[quote]CBS Los Angeles reporter Serene Branson is a hometown girl gone good who’s been nominated for Emmys. But tonight after the Grammys, her 13-second report from outside the Staples Center was more notable for the way it seemed to auto-translate itself on the fly.[/quote]
If you really want me to believe that Fox isn't creditable, find the lies in the body of the articles too, not just the Attention Grabbers. If a headline looks like a lie, read the article and try to think of why they used that headline.
[QUOTE=Glaber;28051351]You're jumping on a Headline, an attention grabber!
The headline was written "Drunk? CBS Reporter Speaks Utter Gibberish at Grammys." because of how she sounded.[/QUOTE]
"Question Titles" are disingenuous no matter who does it. Shit like "Are the Republicans Nazis? More at 11" or "Is Obama a Socialist?", is just bad journalism, and while it may encourage viewers to stick around to see what the news actually is, it's still a terrible practice.
[editline]14th February 2011[/editline]
Also before you make the argument that MSNBC or whoever, "does it too", I fail to see how that makes Fox any more of a valid source. Hell, I rarely see news on one station and treat it as fact, I go to several different sources (if there are that many) to see if something is really true. This helps to eliminate as much bias as possible. I recommend you try it sometime, and I don't mean posting a secondary source only after you are confronted about it.
[QUOTE=Glaber;28051351]You're jumping on a Headline, an attention grabber!
The headline was written "Drunk? CBS Reporter Speaks Utter Gibberish at Grammys." because of how she sounded. Now this it what it said under the Headline:
If you really want me to believe that Fox isn't creditable, find the lies in the body of the articles too, not just the Attention Grabbers. If a headline looks like a lie, read the article and try to think of why they used that headline.[/QUOTE]
Wasn't there that study a while back that showed people who watched fox news were the least informed?
[editline]14th February 2011[/editline]
and MSNBC had the best informed people?
[QUOTE=Glaber;28050659]No, but if you were just watching MSNBC You would of thought he was one of the racist white people that MSNBC said was there. They actively edited the video to zoom in to only show the gun and no skin tone of the person. Are you telling me you defend MSNBC's Actions with this video?[/QUOTE]
He JUST said that they never called him white. Do you have some sort of mental deficiency that keeps you from reading anything that contradicts you?
Also, you just said that by that picture, everyone would assume that it was a racist white man.
Bigot, much? :v:
[QUOTE=Glaber;28051351]
The headline was written "Drunk? CBS Reporter Speaks Utter Gibberish at Grammys." because of how she sounded. Now this it what it said under the Headline:[/QUOTE]
it's not the body of the article it's the style of writing. [i]Under no circumstances[/i] is it appropriate or professional to compare a stroke victim to someone who is drunk
[QUOTE=Glaber;28041739]No matter how many times you say fox news is invalid. It's not going to make me stop posting their articles. Besides, if Fox news was really invalid, then so would MSNBC too.[/QUOTE]
There's a difference between clear bias and full retard.
[QUOTE=Glaber;28048380]When the opposition keeps repeating the same argument again and again, it tends to get predictable. But if it will make you happy I suppose I'll watch this predictable video all the way through.
Let's see. First up I have a google search.
[url]http://www.google.com/search?aq=f&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=msnbc+lies[/url]
The first result was this video: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoikNVzesGc[/url] In the video, MSNBC Claims that White people are showing up at rallies with guns. With what MSNBC showed, You'd believe them. But CNN on the other hand Exposed that to be a lie when they ran a zoomed out version of the same video that showed the person with the guns to be a black man. Even Fox got the video correct by running the same video CNN aired
This lie is also covered on this page here: [url]http://letterstoadyingdream.wordpress.com/2010/03/04/msnbc-propaganda-lies-insane-douchebags-and-dylan-ratigan/[/url]
(Info on the Source: [url]http://letterstoadyingdream.wordpress.com/about/[/url]
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Even Democrat's and Progressives recognize when MSNBC lies. For example, when MSNBC Lied about Wire tapping.
[url]http://www.democrats.com/msnbc-lies-about-warrantless-wiretapping[/url]
[url]http://www.democrats.com/about[/url]
Even Keith Olberman Participated in lieing on air before Comcast fired him. (Note, Comcast is the current owner of MSNBC)For an example:
[url]http://www.olbermannwatch.com/[/url] (a website dedicated to documenting Olbermann) Includes other examples
As you can see, it's documented from both sides of the political spectrum that MSNBC lies.[/QUOTE]
And you miss the fucking point again. No one fucking cares about msnbc.
[QUOTE=Dalndox;28053139]He JUST said that they never called him white. Do you have some sort of mental deficiency that keeps you from reading anything that contradicts you?
Also, you just said that by that picture, everyone would assume that it was a racist white man.
Bigot, much? :v:[/QUOTE]
They never showed that he was black either. Technicly, they never even showed his face. So when they cut to the next person, if you weren't paying attention, you would of though that the white guy was the guy with the guns. MSNBC Didn't have to say what race they guy was, they were just trying to cause a controversy by omission of visuals and claims of Racism.
[QUOTE=Glaber;28054341]They never showed that he was black either. Technicly, they never even showed his face. So when they cut to the next person, if you weren't paying attention, you would of though that the white guy was the guy with the guns. MSNBC Didn't have to say what race they guy was, they were just trying to cause a controversy by omission of visuals and claims of Racism.[/QUOTE]
The cut you're talking about was done by the makers of that MSNBC attack video.
:downs:
Also, I just watched the whole video, and I like the part where it starts out with a racist joke about Kool-Aid.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;28054058]And you miss the fucking point again. No one fucking cares about msnbc.[/QUOTE]
Exactly. No one here is saying MSNBC is a paragon news organization comprised of only the most objective journalists, merely that Fox News is the worst "big" news station, and is not a credible source.
[QUOTE=Glaber;28054341]They never showed that he was black either. Technicly, they never even showed his face. So when they cut to the next person, if you weren't paying attention, you would of though that the white guy was the guy with the guns. MSNBC Didn't have to say what race they guy was, they were just trying to cause a controversy by omission of visuals and claims of Racism.[/QUOTE]
You're still missing the point in your short sightedness glaber.
NO ONE GIVES A FUCK ABOUT MSNBC. They aren't important, they aren't a news agency I listen to or would source from, but they still aren't as bad as fox news. MSNBC is at least, a news station.
[QUOTE=Glaber;28054341]They never showed that he was black either. Technicly, they never even showed his face. So when they cut to the next person, if you weren't paying attention, [b]you would of though that the white guy was the guy with the guns. [/b]MSNBC Didn't have to say what race they guy was, they were just trying to cause a controversy by omission of visuals and claims of Racism.[/QUOTE]
Whatever you say.
Racist. :v:
[QUOTE=Dalndox;28055256]Whatever you say.
Racist. :v:[/QUOTE]
Glabers a thinly veiled racist/homophobe in my opinion. Not an extreme one, just has those tendencies.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;28055319]Glabers a thinly veiled racist/homophobe in my opinion. Not an extreme one, just has those tendencies.[/QUOTE]
I'm mostly just poking and prodding, but I've noticed that too.
Especially when he considers consenting to a [b]comic book character's[/b] homosexuality to be "progress".
I for one love glaber. It takes quite a lot of will power to defend so many reckless conjectures on a regular basis. The ability to hold your ground is a tough one to come by these days, for better or worse.
[QUOTE=Habsburg;28042112][media]http://youtube.com/watch?v=o3LUid0IZ2w[/media]
reposting this to make sure glaber watches it[/QUOTE]
I agree with Rachel Maddow, but she's probably not the right person to report that being that she uses an outlet for her opinions. One thing I missed about Keith Olbermann was that he was honest about his segment being opinion based.
[QUOTE=Dalndox;28055256]Whatever you say.
Racist. :v:[/QUOTE]
What's racist about exposing Racism? Or for that matter, how a News station is trying to provoke it? Or are you just trying to label me racist because of how I worked out MSNBC's logic of using selective video editing with a series of lies to push an agenda and pointed it out?
Clicked on the politics section of FoxNews.com and this is the first that came up.
[img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/Faux_News_Again.png[/img]
That's a pretty opinionated title. Also, read the description.
And? This section is full of opinionated titles for news posts.
Plus the article is about a bullet train project that is far from ready to begin, would currently cost way too much, and is being built in "The middle of Nowhere" in California.
Oh, and that "description" is just the first paragraph of the article.
[quote= a bit of the article in question]"They don't know where they're going to build it, they don't have a mile of right of way under possession, it is not shovel ready, it is not even engineer ready," said Richard Tolmach, with the California High-Speed Rail Authority. "It is still a work in progress where the line might go. Right now it is not somewhere the feds should be putting their money."
But the feds are putting money into the project. Already California has received about $3.8 billion, mostly in stimulus money. But as the high-speed rail project that is furthest along, it stands to bring home the lion's share of any additional federal money.
And that is where the controversy comes in. The first leg of the project is slated for the middle of Central Valley -- not between major cities, or congested freeway corridors like San Francisco and San Jose or Orange County and Los Angeles. The Central Valley site is between Borden -- a point on the map where no one lives -- and Corcoran, a town where half the residents will never board a train because they're in prison.[/quote]
Source: [url]http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/02/14/bullet-train/#ixzz1DyWbX48C[/url]
[QUOTE=Glaber;28055880]What's racist about exposing Racism? Or for that matter, how a News station is trying to provoke it? Or are you just trying to label me racist because of how I worked out MSNBC's logic of using selective video editing with a series of lies to push an agenda and pointed it out?[/QUOTE]
no he's saying youre a racist because you think everyone will assume that the guy is white because he has guns. you are racist against white people
Close, I assume that this is what MSNBC assumes because of how they edited their video.
Try connecting the dots every once in a while.
MSNBC... assumes the guy they edited to not be seen is white based on what they focused on after blacking him out :confused:
[QUOTE=Glaber;28056869]Close, I assume that this is what MSNBC assumes because of how they edited their video.
Try connecting the dots every once in a while.[/QUOTE]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gh6r5ALVMo[/media]
[QUOTE=daijitsu;28056992]MSNBC... assumes the guy they edited to not be seen is white based on what they focused on after blacking him out :confused:[/QUOTE]
You just missed the last dot. MSNBC assumes that the guy they edited to not be seen will be assumed to be white by their viewers based on what they focused on after blacking him out and the cut following it that showed someone else wearing a similar color shirt.
[QUOTE=Glaber;28056869]Close, I assume that this is what MSNBC assumes because of how they edited their video.
Try connecting the dots every once in a while.[/QUOTE]
Well, you know what they say, when you "assume"... you're racist. :v:
[sp]The joke is you make an "ass" out of "u" and "me".[/sp]
[QUOTE=Glaber;28057525]You just missed the last dot. MSNBC assumes that the guy they edited to not be seen will be assumed to be white by their viewers based on what they focused on after blacking him out and the cut following it that showed someone else wearing a similar color shirt.[/QUOTE]
they're not leading people into thinking he's one thing or another. They're protecting his identity by not showing his face. Plus, they cut to another scene of another guy wearing a [i]white shirt[/i]. Congratulations, that's a rare one.
talking of connecting the dots and they're leading you into thinking one thing or another is doing nothing more than making you sound like a conspiracy theorist with a tinfoil hat.
So why Just MSNBC? Neither CNN nor Fox protected his identity. If that's all they were doing, why didn't MSNBC just blur out his face instead of just showing his body and the gun? I mean they didn't even show his arms.
[QUOTE=Glaber;28057777]So why Just MSNBC? Neither CNN nor Fox protected his identity. If that's all they were doing, why didn't MSNBC just blur out his face instead of just showing his body and the gun?[/QUOTE]
'cause his face isn't necessary. He's a guy, at a rally, holding a gun.
Unless you're saying that a person's worth is only measured by how the look.
How shallow, Glaber. :colbert:
[QUOTE=Dalndox;28057806]'cause his face isn't necessary. He's a guy, at a rally, holding a gun.
Unless you're saying that a person's worth is only measured by how the look.
How shallow, Glaber. :colbert:[/QUOTE]
No wonder the democrat party is represented by the Donkey. It seems like every time I try to form a chain for a point, someone just posts as if they didn't follow the conversation.
Let me sum it up.
He's a guy at a Tea Party Rally
With a Gun
MSNBC Doesn't like the Tea Party Movement
MSNBC gets the video of the Guy with the gun at the rally
MSNBC Realize he's black and doesn't match their rhetoric about the Tea Party Movement
The Rhetoric is that the Tea Party Movement is full of Bitter Racist White males
MSNBC Edits the video by digitally zooming in and including a clip of another person with a similar color shirt to directly follow the edited footage
MSNBC Runs the Edited footage and talks about Racist white people with guns (MSNBC's video [with slight editing by News Busters: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYKQJ4-N7LI&[/url] )
CNN Runs the video they get.
CNN's video is not zoomed in. (CNN's Video: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KfN7woo2xRY[/url])
Fox has the same video as CNN
Fox also Aquires a recording of MSNBC's Coverage of the Rally
Fox's show "Red Eye" Exposes MSNBC for trying to make it sound like the (Red eye: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Jwg-f3dqN4&feature[/url])
If you need an unedited video from MSNBC, that's going to have to wait a bit. My laptop doesn't have sound.
Special note, the Youtube videos used have a caption option.
[QUOTE=Glaber;28058445]No wonder the democrat party is represented by the Donkey. It seems like every time I try to form a chain for a point, someone just posts as if they didn't follow the conversation.
Let me sum it up.
He's a guy at a Tea Party Rally
With a Gun
MSNBC Doesn't like the Tea Party Movement
MSNBC gets the video of the Guy with the gun at the rally
MSNBC Realize he's black and doesn't match their rhetoric about the Tea Party Movement
The Rhetoric is that the Tea Party Movement is full of Bitter Racist White males
MSNBC Edits the video by digitally zooming in and including a clip of another person with a similar color shirt to directly follow the edited footage
MSNBC Runs the Edited footage and talks about Racist white people with guns (MSNBC's video [with slight editing by News Busters: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYKQJ4-N7LI&[/url] )
CNN Runs the video they get.
CNN's video is not zoomed in. (CNN's Video: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KfN7woo2xRY[/url])
Fox has the same video as CNN
Fox also Aquires a recording of MSNBC's Coverage of the Rally
Fox's show "Red Eye" Exposes MSNBC for trying to make it sound like the (Red eye: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Jwg-f3dqN4&feature[/url])
If you need an unedited video from MSNBC, that's going to have to wait a bit. My laptop doesn't have sound.
Special note, the Youtube videos used have a caption option.[/QUOTE]
you're making a big deal out of a coincidence
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