• NATO is now targeting Moammar Gadhafi
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[QUOTE=yaik9a;30418534]Wow your pretty dense allow me to quote myself:[/QUOTE] The majority of that is just you repeating "fascism, capitalism, consumerism" and still not actually stating anything. Does [x] group have control over [x] nation's, or [x] nation's media? Does [x] corporation exploit [x] nation's population? But just in case this is too critical, I'll address each statement in-depth. [quote]The NATO countries are under the control of the US regime of fascism because since the the USA's corporations manipulate and control "Free Market" Capitalist countries through manipulation of the government through the economic system.[/quote] Firstly, "US Regime of Fascism"? That's already wrong. Second, why are you grouping all corporations into some kind of monstrous entity that controls the economy? Which corporations? What are they doing specifically? It's incredibly vague. [quote]Using Consumerism and the media the Fascist controllers of the USA Government almost directly control the populace and by extension the voters allowing them easy implementation of USA/Capitalist friendly policies and by fooling the moderate left wingers with "Social Democracy" they feel that there is no manipulation going on.[/quote] Okay, completely ignoring that you again state that there are "fascist controllers of the US Government", how do they use consumerism to control the populace? What specifically? Again, this is very vague. And how do you think they would fool the centre-left voters so easily if there was actually no change? Please explain. [quote]No but all capitalist entities want the same thing and since the US Government is a puppet to them and the NATOs countries are puppets to the american government, there policies are kept very similar and also I did say how the the populace is manipulated by consumerism and the media witch are all capitalist controlled to be directly supportive of the USA/USA Friendly policy and/or Capitalism, the only reason that leftist parties and demonstrations are tolerated to give the illusion of freedom.[/quote] Okay, again you go on and on about capitalist entities as if they are in some sort of hivemind, when that's just not true. No kidding the media is capitalist controlled, but there is public-funded media. Also, when you set up a mindset of opposition merely being "tolerated", you pretty much write everything that happens as just being "tolerated" without them having any actual freedom.
[QUOTE=Megafanx13;30418776]The majority of that is just you repeating "fascism, capitalism, consumerism" and still not actually stating anything. Does [x] group have control over [x] nation's, or [x] nation's media? Does [x] corporation exploit [x] nation's population? But just in case this is too critical, I'll address each statement in-depth. Firstly, "US Regime of Fascism"? That's already wrong. Second, why are you grouping all corporations into some kind of monstrous entity that controls the economy? Which corporations? What are they doing specifically? It's incredibly vague. Okay, completely ignoring that you again state that there are "fascist controllers of the US Government", how do they use consumerism to control the populace? What specifically? Again, this is very vague. And how do you think they would fool the centre-left voters so easily if there was actually no change? Please explain. Okay, again you go on and on about capitalist entities as if they are in some sort of hivemind, when that's just not true. No kidding the media is capitalist controlled, but there is public-funded media. Also, when you set up a mindset of opposition merely being "tolerated", you pretty much write everything that happens as just being "tolerated" without them having any actual freedom.[/QUOTE] 1) Okay since I have to fill in the blanks for you. 2)Well the main perpetrating corporations are the ones that are heavily vested in energy, production, media and others like Coca Cola since these ones maintain the most control of the USA government. 3) Consumerism keeps the population feeble minded. Center left voters are easily swayed with minor reforms or almost no action at all, like the democrat party or labour party. 4) Again the public funded media is a illusion meant to make people think there is freedom in the system, infact a lot of leftist governments make policies that are detrimental to there own values.
[QUOTE=yaik9a;30419609]2)Well the main perpetrating corporations are the ones that are heavily vested in energy, production, media and others like Coca Cola since these ones maintain the most control of the USA government.[/QUOTE] Still haven't explained what they've done to "control the populace". Somehow I don't think Coca-Cola's the thing that keeps civilians subdued from learning about war crimes. [QUOTE=yaik9a;30419609]3) Consumerism keeps the population feeble minded. Center left voters are easily swayed with minor reforms or almost no action at all, like the democrat party or labour party.[/QUOTE] Easily swayed? Is that why a lot of progressives were angry that single-payer healthcare wasn't passed? And only minor reforms? So relatively large changes in social policy don't matter, like the repeal of DADT? [QUOTE=yaik9a;30419609]4) Again the public funded media is a illusion meant to make people think there is freedom in the system, infact a lot of leftist governments make policies that are detrimental to there own values.[/QUOTE] Really, so NPR is just an illusion then? How so?
[QUOTE=Megafanx13;30420021]Still haven't explained what they've done to "control the populace". Somehow I don't think Coca-Cola's the thing that keeps civilians subdued from learning about war crimes. Easily swayed? Is that why a lot of progressives were angry that single-payer healthcare wasn't passed? And only minor reforms? So relatively large changes in social policy don't matter, like the repeal of DADT? Really, so NPR is just an illusion then? How so?[/QUOTE] 1) Well cheap products keep people entertained, and other shit like Facebook does also, a nice example of Coca-cola controlling the US government is when the US government kept most media from reporting the story of how Coke was killing union workers and subduing protests in it's foreign factories. 2) The Single-Payer health care act was just one of those bullshit things they do to make people think that there ballet helps change things the health care companies have to much money vested in that to allow them to change it. The repeal of DADT meant nothing to profits of companies or the power of the regime so they must have determined it a great idea to promote that change illusion. 3) How popular is NPR?
yaik9a you have to escape, megafanx is with the neo gestapo of the american faschist regime, the longer you visit this thread and post the faster they are tracking your location.
I think NATO should just hand him to the rebels.
[QUOTE=yaik9a;30425426]1) Well cheap products keep people entertained, and other shit like Facebook does also, a nice example of Coca-cola controlling the US government is when the US government kept most media from reporting the story of how Coke was killing union workers and subduing protests in it's foreign factories.[/quote] That does indeed sound awful, but a source on this is required before I can address it. [QUOTE=yaik9a;30425426]2) The Single-Payer health care act was just one of those bullshit things they do to make people think that there ballet helps change things the health care companies have to much money vested in that to allow them to change it. The repeal of DADT meant nothing to profits of companies or the power of the regime so they must have determined it a great idea to promote that change illusion.[/quote] One, I'm not saying they passed a fraudulent single-payer healthcare act, in fact quite the contrary. There was a fair bit of Progressive outcry when the healthcare bill was little more than a voucher service for poor citizens. And if you simply write off DADT repeal as "something the fascist corporations merely [I]allowed[/I]", you can pretty much say the same for most other social change. On that note, how did you even come to the conclusion that the corporations "allowed" it? [QUOTE=yaik9a;30425426]3) How popular is NPR?[/QUOTE] Quite popular I'd say, I know a good amount of people (about 10-15 out of about 40 off the top of my head) that listen to it. It's not talked about too much because it's rather unbiased, which makes it less sensationalized, and less excited to the general public. However quite a few people do listen to it.
about fucking time NATO
[QUOTE=Loures;30425683]I think NATO should just hand him to the rebels.[/QUOTE] How? They're not doing ground ops, how are they meant to capture him?
[QUOTE=Megafanx13;30426985]That does indeed sound awful, but a source on this is required before I can address it. One, I'm not saying they passed a fraudulent single-payer healthcare act, in fact quite the contrary. There was a fair bit of Progressive outcry when the healthcare bill was little more than a voucher service for poor citizens. And if you simply write off DADT repeal as "something the fascist corporations merely [I]allowed[/I]", you can pretty much say the same for most other social change. On that note, how did you even come to the conclusion that the corporations "allowed" it? Quite popular I'd say, I know a good amount of people (about 10-15 out of about 40 off the top of my head) that listen to it. It's not talked about too much because it's rather unbiased, which makes it less sensationalized, and less excited to the general public. However quite a few people do listen to it.[/QUOTE] 1) Google killer coke then check your sation for any mention. 2) There has been no [i]real[/i] change in the US for years. 3) Again you need to maintain a good variedness in order to maintain the illusion, NPR is part of that illusion.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;30368950]You want us to send soldiers out to rape him? What soldier in his right mind would want to rape Gaddafi?[/QUOTE] [IMG]http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/7498/watcha.png[/IMG]
[QUOTE=Atlascore;30362234]Gaddfi will be written in history books as the only dictator with twenty different names. [sp]If you don't get it, every one spells his name differently for some reason, Gaddfi, Gahddfi, Gadhafi, Gahdfi, Muammar, Muammar, it never ends[/sp][/QUOTE] Don't forget Qaddafi
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