• Priest drowns baby during baptism
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[QUOTE=Leaf Runner;23682975]It appears some of us are still oooking at the situation as a tragic accident and that the priest was simply doing his job with good intentions, thus he does not deserve a punishment. Perhaps we should highlight some article lines. [release]Mr Gaidau, 36, said his son was clearly in distress during the ceremony. "He couldn't inhale, his face turned blue and he was foaming at the mouth. He [the priest] said we should not interrupt this their ritual," he said. The baby's godmother, Aliona Vacarciuc, said the baby had been crying as the priest submerged him in the water. "We couldn't believe it but we thought the priest must know what he's doing" When the baby's angry relatives confronted the priest, he told them he knew what he was doing and was experienced at baptisms, Ms Vacarciuc said. [/release] This wasn't a simple accident, the priest was fucking insane with religion. He deserves way more than three years. You have to be an absolutely arrogant idiot to think that a baby that is foaming at the mouth with a blue head is not the baby drowning, but just "Satan fighting back" or just some exorcism shit.[/QUOTE] Pathetic, send him to the sponge rooms.
[QUOTE=starpluck;23665352]Your logic is unbelievably terrible.[/QUOTE] I find it hard to think it exists people such as you.
Thank god
[QUOTE=Monkey pie;23688635]I find it hard to think it exists people such as you.[/QUOTE] I find it hard to think it exists people such as [highlight]you[/highlight].
[QUOTE=z0nk3d;23688182]A murder is purely voluntary. Here we're talking about a homicide, and probably an unintentional homicide with that. In my opinion the priest wasn't some fanatic or shit like that, it must be a perfectly human problem, entirely coming from the priest and not from his religion.[/QUOTE] [release]Mr Gaidau, 36, said his son was clearly in distress during the ceremony. "He couldn't inhale, his face turned blue and he was foaming at the mouth. He [the priest] said we should not interrupt this their ritual," he said. The baby's godmother, Aliona Vacarciuc, said the baby had been crying as the priest submerged him in the water. "We couldn't believe it but we thought the priest must know what he's doing" When the baby's angry relatives confronted the priest, he told them he knew what he was doing and was experienced at baptisms, Ms Vacarciuc said. [/release] It was because of his religion. Either that, or he wanted to drown a baby.
Or he was in panic, or sick. I mean, there are diseases which can just paralyse you, give you some "absences" while you do something. We can't just tell it's because of his religion, just because it happened during a baptism.
That's terrible, surely if the baby was crying then he would've thought something was wrong and even more so if the baby was blue in the face.
[QUOTE=z0nk3d;23691382]Or he was in panic, or sick. I mean, there are diseases which can just paralyse you, give you some "absences" while you do something. We can't just tell it's because of his religion, just because it happened during a baptism.[/QUOTE] That's a bit of a stretch, don't you think? He wasn't absent if he had the capacity to tell the family that they shouldn't interrupt the ceremony. He's likely mentally ill, which religion can exploit and worsen.
[QUOTE=Amber Lamb;23675651]No, had nothing to do with religious rituals, it's a common compulsion of the average person to dunk the heads of their babies under water.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=The golden;23675749]A religious man in a religious building was performing a religious practice that involved dunking a child underwater. Totally has nothing to do with religion.[/QUOTE] I said religion's [B]fault[/B] you idiots both of you need to take a reading class. this was NOT religion's fault. if a baby drowns in a pool is it the pool's fault? no, it's the fucking person who was supposed to be supervising the baby.
What church submerges babies in baptism?
I love reading the first page where everyone blames religion for this; it's an accident. This was bound to happen once or twice but it's not like it happens every time. Edit: ""He couldn't inhale, his face turned blue and he was foaming at the mouth. He [the priest] said we should not interrupt this their ritual," he said." Nevermind, although I still don't see this being religion; the priest was just stupid. He could have waited but he did chose not to, there is nothing in the bible that tells you not to stop the ritual if the baby is dying.
[QUOTE=Vinze;23680914] Charitable and generally kind? Christian? Those are hardly christian, their "charity" normally goes to building new churches, and they are only generally kind to white, religious and mundane people [/QUOTE] HAHA OH WOW. Do you realize that black people go to church too? And that they are probably more religious that most white people?
[QUOTE=Maximo13;23692776]HAHA OH WOW. Do you realize that black people go to church too? And that they are probably more religious that most white people?[/QUOTE] In the mind of a typical Facepunch user, black people do not exist.
"The baby's godmother, Aliona Vacarciuc, said the baby had been crying as the priest submerged him in the water." Most babies do...?
[QUOTE=Number-41;23665287]At least he will go to heaven.[/QUOTE] No, Atlantis :eng101:
^ Oh, glorious Black Humor.
How did this happen?! religion has always been so logical
Forgot where the sources are for this (bible/sense) but people are suppose to come to their decision to baptize, baptizing babies isn't how it's suppose to be. What kind of church was this priest practicing under?
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;23692759]I love reading the first page where everyone blames religion for this; it's an accident. This was bound to happen once or twice but it's not like it happens every time. Edit: ""He couldn't inhale, his face turned blue and he was foaming at the mouth. He [the priest] said we should not interrupt this their ritual," he said." Nevermind, although I still don't see this being religion; the priest was just stupid. He could have waited but he did chose not to, there is nothing in the bible that tells you not to stop the ritual if the baby is dying.[/QUOTE] I still don't get why people must blame religion and not the person.
As oppose to what different Christianity faiths believe, the body is suppose to be submerged and brought back up immediately there isn't some time limit at all. It's the message behind the practice not the action (Changing that would be because of different cultural influences etc), baptizing itself is honestly useless, it's what you do with your life afterward. As I said in the earlier post, baptizing babies is pointless, the person has to make that choice and understand his decision.
[QUOTE=JDK721;23692306]I said religion's [B]fault[/B] you idiots both of you need to take a reading class. this was NOT religion's fault. if a baby drowns in a pool is it the pool's fault? no, it's the fucking person who was supposed to be supervising the baby.[/QUOTE] I stand by what I said. It still applies despite your insult.
One reason why baptism is stupid.
[QUOTE=FLAPJACKDANNY;23696005]I still don't get why people must blame religion and not the person.[/QUOTE] He wouldn't have been pushing a baby under water otherwise, unless he's some kind of sicko.
[QUOTE=Amber Lamb;23696155]I stand by what I said. It still applies despite your insult.[/QUOTE] so if a baby drowns in a pool it's the pool's fault?
[QUOTE=JDK721;23696225]so if a baby drowns in a pool it's the pool's fault?[/QUOTE] Am I blaming the water or the receptacle in which it was kept? No, I'm blaming the driving motive behind holding the baby under water in the first place. [editline]09:57PM[/editline] Where you go?
[QUOTE=Amber Lamb;23696315]Am I blaming the water or the receptacle in which it was kept? No, I'm blaming the driving motive behind holding the baby under water in the first place.[/QUOTE] so if a person wants to go swimming, and he drowns.. it's the want to swim's fault?
[QUOTE=Amber Lamb;23696315]Am I blaming the water or the receptacle in which it was kept? No, I'm blaming the driving motive behind holding the baby under water in the first place. [editline]09:57PM[/editline] Where you go?[/QUOTE] because religion strides to drown babies, right?
It was incompetence on the priest's part. We should end the discussion now
[QUOTE=MRTW113;23699766]It was incompetence on the priest's part. We should end the discussion now[/QUOTE] I propose we all listen to this man [b]EDIT:[/b] Hey it worked
[QUOTE=Eudoxia;23665400]It teaches misogyny, xenophobia, and even racism by saying black people are black due to a "curse from the Lord".[/QUOTE] And don't forget homophobia.
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