• Priest drowns baby during baptism
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and this is what happens when people think that dipping their baby in water will protect them or what ever. religion sucks.
[QUOTE=tehfrog;23700744]and this is what happens when people think that dipping their baby in water will protect them or what ever. religion sucks.[/QUOTE] a baby drowned in a pool because of a negligent caretaker. it's the pool's fault! there probably have been hundreds of millions, if not billions of ceremonies like this. this is the fault of a negligent priest.
[QUOTE=JDK721;23701047]a baby drowned in a pool because of a negligent caretaker. pools suck. there probably have been hundreds of millions, if not billions of ceremonies like this. this is the fault of a negligent priest.[/QUOTE] Pools do suck though, they have a drain and everything.
:(. that's ridiculously sad.
[QUOTE=FLAPJACKDANNY;23696005]I still don't get why people must blame religion and not the person.[/QUOTE] Yeah, that's what I said, the priest was dumb, not the religion.
[QUOTE=Maximo13;23692776]HAHA OH WOW. Do you realize that black people go to church too? And that they are probably more religious that most white people?[/QUOTE] Yeah, but they have a tendency to be more tolerant, since they know how it's like to be discriminated. So there's less homophobia. Sure, they're still dumbasses, but, atleast somewhat equally thinking dumbasses. Unlike the stereotypical suburban christians. The kind who thinks that "My poolboy is hispanic" passes off as racial tolerance... [editline]08:42PM[/editline] [QUOTE=MrJazzy;23703443]Yeah, that's what I said, the priest was dumb, not the religion.[/QUOTE] Actually, the religion is dumb aswell, so don't worry.
[QUOTE=Vinze;23703525]Actually, the religion is dumb aswell, so don't worry.[/QUOTE] Whatever, man.
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;23703949]Whatever, man.[/QUOTE] It's fine he's just butthurt because people like what he doesn't like.
[QUOTE=Spacewolf;23665318]It teaches hating people for being different[/QUOTE] :irony:
[QUOTE=bravehat;23704040]It's fine he's just butthurt because people like what he doesn't like.[/QUOTE] Actually, it's the genocidal tendencies and opression, and wars that religion brings. Bandwagon or not, I don't like people dying for no logical reason :colbert:. And sure, some might say "If it wasn't religion they fought over, it would be something else." Well, then we could move on to solving that problem.
Well your reply to my post was nothing but dumb and disrespectful. You don't have to like religion, that's fine, but you try to find every little oppertunity to call it dumb. This is why I think alot of atheists are assholes.
[QUOTE=Vinze;23704839]Actually, it's the genocidal tendencies and opression, and wars that religion brings. Bandwagon or not, I don't like people dying for no logical reason :colbert:. And sure, some might say "If it wasn't religion they fought over, it would be something else." Well, then we could move on to solving that problem.[/QUOTE] Assaulting the religion is fine, assaulting it's followers on an individual basis is not for the simple reason they aren't to blame for the mistakes of anyone else or the mistakes of those long dead. Get off your high horse.
A religion's reputation is based on its followers, and if Christianity has such a bad reputation it's not for nothing.
I'd think a religion's reputation should be on the religion, not the mistakes of those who follow it.
[QUOTE=bravehat;23705027]Assaulting the religion is fine, assaulting it's followers on an individual basis is not for the simple reason they aren't to blame for the mistakes of anyone else or the mistakes of those long dead. Get off your high horse.[/QUOTE] They are the ones financing the whole thing. "GEIV US MUNEY SO WE CAN BEELD MAOR CHURCHUS PLZ!!!" If you're christian in a spiritual manner, meaning you don't mind evolution being taught in school, or if you don't go to church on sundays (or atleast don't hand money to the priests), and if you're against the tyranny of the vatican, and see TV evangelists and conartist assholes. Then I'm okay with that. To narrow it down: Aslong as you don't in any way support the dumbass part, and won't accept how people are being tricked by these jerks, then I don't mind it. Faith and politics are different things, and it's the political department that needs a cleaning. But for that to happen, alot of christians needs to swallow their foolish pride, and stop defending the bad parts. And also, I don't have a high horse, I prefer walking. [editline]11:20PM[/editline] No, really.
[QUOTE=z0nk3d;23705097]A religion's reputation is based on its followers, and if Christianity has such a bad reputation it's not for nothing.[/QUOTE] Yeah cause the bad apples spoil the whole bunch right? I mean the Germans let the nazis get into power right that means they're all racist homophobic Nazi's right? Don't judge an entire group based on the acts of the few, it's fucking idiotic.
Thad made sense, Vinze, and that is respectable.
[QUOTE=bravehat;23705168]Yeah cause the bad apples spoil the whole bunch right? I mean the Germans let the nazis get into power right that means they're all racist homophobic Nazi's right? [/QUOTE] Do you mean the nazis who were funded by the vatican's money that they got through donations? :smug: [QUOTE=MrJazzy;23705181]Thad made sense, Vinze, and that is respectable.[/QUOTE] Well, it's kinda my point in general about religion, far be it for me to be a thoughtpolice. But people need to be abit skeptical, and if god sees it as a sin to question when people scam them, then I'd say they need to elect a new god anyways.
[QUOTE=Vinze;23705160]They are the ones financing the whole thing. "GEIV US MUNEY SO WE CAN BEELD MAOR CHURCHUS PLZ!!!" If you're christian in a spiritual manner, meaning you don't mind evolution being taught in school, or if you don't go to church on sundays (or atleast don't hand money to the priests), and if you're against the tyranny of the vatican, and see TV evangelists and conartist assholes. Then I'm okay with that. To narrow it down: Aslong as you don't in any way support the dumbass part, and won't accept how people are being tricked by these jerks, then I don't mind it. Faith and politics are different things, and it's the political department that needs a cleaning. But for that to happen, alot of christians needs to swallow their foolish pride, and stop defending the bad parts. And also, I don't have a high horse, I prefer walking. [editline]11:20PM[/editline] No, really.[/QUOTE] Does Jazzy sound like an evangelist? No not really so why bitch about religion to him. It's this sort of bullshit that causes unneeded shit storms, so here's what to do, don't say a word until an extremist shows up, okay pumpkin? [editline]01:55PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Vinze;23705196]Do you mean the nazis who were funded by the vatican's money that they got through donations? :smug:[/QUOTE] Because Hitler made a deal with the pope to protect catholics from persecution, seems like a fairly christian thing to do, help as many people as you can. Well I say christian, old timey christians when they actually lived up to their tenants on a large scale.
[QUOTE=bravehat;23705206]Does Jazzy sound like an evangelist? [/QUOTE] No, but he defended religion as a general element, alot of evangelists hides behind "We're good, some christians aren't, but we're not part of them, because we're good." Since he thought the way I did without making it clear, how was I supposed to know? I don't belive in mumbo-jumbo, so clearly, mindreading is out of the question. Also, it hardly matters why they did it. Since when was Hitler a man of his word? I know back in those days EVERYONE were christians due to emotional blackmail, so yeah, alot of good people were christians too. Point being, they funded the nazis, and we all know the hidden agenda was "Here, take this, feel free to kill the jews, but leave us alone.", otherwise they'd fund the ressistance. But what they also were promised in return, was a nice pile of nazi gold. But you forgot to mention that, now did you? Pfft, defending Catholics AND nazis... My, my, my. Point being: It was greedy and cowardous.
I ain't defending catholicism or nazism so yeah thanks for ramming some words down my throat. I'm saying leave people to feel and think a they wish until such point it causes friction, and you just can't seem to grasp that Hitler and the nazi party should have been broken up as soon as they attempted the Munich Putsch and the Vatican today should be torn down and the Pope slaughtered. And actually if the vatican done nothing then, more people would have died sooner, the fact that they made a deal with Hitler protected people for a short space of time, and if Hitler kept his word as he seemed to do at that time then everything would have been fine. Stop being an idiot, everyone dies, or most die, make your choice.
[QUOTE=bravehat;23705508]I ain't defending catholicism or nazism so yeah thanks for ramming some words down my throat. I'm saying leave people to feel and think a they wish until such point it causes friction, and you just can't seem to grasp that Hitler and the nazi party should have been broken up as soon as they attempted the Munich Putsch and the Vatican today should be torn down and the Pope slaughtered. And actually if the vatican done nothing then, more people would have died sooner, the fact that they made a deal with Hitler protected people for a short space of time, and if Hitler kept his word as he seemed to do at that time then everything would have been fine. Stop being an idiot, everyone dies, or most die, make your choice.[/QUOTE] The vatican has pretty much an endless amount of money, they've stacked up tons and yet tons. They could afford to repel the nazis, but they whent with the choise to give them more money, the saving of life makes a nice cover, though. "I'm saying leave people to feel and think a they wish until such point it causes friction, and you just can't seem to grasp that" But it does cause friction. Recently, they passed a vote saying certain American elementary schools should teach creationism as an [I]alternative [/I]to evolution. If average christians keeps up like this, then democracy will bring us all back to the stoneage, so yeah, it does cause friction, pherhaps not in a gunweilding madman with a bible sort of way, but yeah, it does. The fact that they have biblestudy in the white house should already be a red flag. Truth is, there are presidents saying that "atheists should have their American citizenship revoked". It causes enough friction to make asphalt look like vaseline. I'm not sure about you, but I'd like to keep the middle-ages where it belongs: As an element of the past.
And when they cause friction go right ahead and push back, I'll be there with you, but what you are doing now is causing friction without purpose. You're arguing on the internet and gonna achieve nothing, it's a waste of energy that could be better spent doing other shit, only when someone fires the first round should you make a big deal out of it. S'all I've got to say and honestly I share your opinions, I just throw em around for no reason. One of the satanic tenants, Solopilism (speeling? :derp:)
[QUOTE=bravehat;23705869]And when they cause friction go right ahead and push back, I'll be there with you, but what you are doing now is causing friction without purpose. You're arguing on the internet and gonna achieve nothing, it's a waste of energy that could be better spent doing other shit, only when someone fires the first round should you make a big deal out of it. S'all I've got to say and honestly I share your opinions, I just throw em around for no reason. One of the satanic tenants, Solopilism (speeling? :derp:)[/QUOTE] I can see what you mean, but truth is, it does have one purpose. I've been endorsed on my political views in general by people who knows me (no, I am not being a braggart douche, I am trying to make a point), so, well, I always thought that if I do ever get into a position where I get into a public debate on a TV show or the radio or something, it's nice to practice abit at debating, which is an awesome thing to do on the internet. I know it's a long shot, but, if it might contribute to me making the world abit of a better place by making a few people think differently, then, why the hell not? Also, I really appriciate it how for once, someone stuck to the topic at hand. Personal attacks are too common these days :sigh:.
No point personally attacking, it shows your running low on options to attack the argument, which strengthens the other persons resolve and its a nice little snowball effect where it all goes to shit :v: And it slays all credibility you once had. And, Counter productive pride :devil:
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;23664995]It's not like he was trying to kill the baby or anything.[/QUOTE] There is a difference between accidentally killing a man and accidentally killing a baby.
This reminds of the episode from the Family guy where the grandfather nearly drown the baby in tainted holy water
[QUOTE=bravehat;23706239]No point personally attacking, it shows your running low on options to attack the argument, which strengthens the other persons resolve and its a nice little snowball effect where it all goes to shit :v: And it slays all credibility you once had. And, Counter productive pride :devil:[/QUOTE] Good point.
[QUOTE=Number-41;23665287]At least he will go to heaven.[/QUOTE] This post got agrees.
This is why Im glad Im Buddhist.
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