[QUOTE=Ridge;49333967]Are you serious? Because there are PLENTY of programs and hardware that don't work in Windows 10 for various reasons, such as missing code in the OS or no available drivers.[/QUOTE]
can you give some examples?
[QUOTE=J!NX;49334933]can you give some examples?[/QUOTE]
Personally, Windows 10 messes with my sound driver, making it impossible for me to use my microphone and programs like Audacity.
It's also preventing me from using WiFi hotspots for whatever reason. Quite infuriating when your ISP decides to dive for a couple of hours.
[QUOTE=VinLAURiA;49333331]Honestly? Good. The last thing we need is another XP situation. Even years after the fact there were still XP apologists railing against Vista and even 7, and it made standardization a chore because some people didn't wanna move on to the latest APIs and feature-sets. Let's keep everyone on the latest version, please.[/QUOTE]
XP still is better than vista
[QUOTE=Ehmmett;49334927]make a valid one[/QUOTE]
ur mom
i can shitpost too
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[QUOTE=Grandzeit;49334963]Personally, Windows 10 messes with my sound driver, making it impossible for me to use my microphone and programs like Audacity.
It's also preventing me from using WiFi hotspots for whatever reason. Quite infuriating when your ISP decides to dive for a couple of hours.[/QUOTE]
reasonable at least. older hardware may have issues.
I have a newer PC so that's probably where I differ
[editline]17th December 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=VinLAURiA;49333331]Honestly? Good. The last thing we need is another XP situation. Even years after the fact there were still XP apologists railing against Vista and even 7, and it made standardization a chore because some people didn't wanna move on to the latest APIs and feature-sets. Let's keep everyone on the latest version, please.[/QUOTE]
XP apologists still exist (for home PC's)
that's sad
I almost unknowingly installed Windows 10 the other day because it was automatically checked as an optional update when I installed important updates, I noticed because the update size was unusually large... I can't upgrade because I have peripherals that just don't work on Windows 10.
[QUOTE=Grandzeit;49334963]
It's also preventing me from using WiFi hotspots for whatever reason. Quite infuriating when your ISP decides to dive for a couple of hours.[/QUOTE]
Mine's the other way around
when I create a hosted network on the virtual adapter, if I take my phone out of the area for a good while, it won't reconnect when I come back, have to restart either the phone or the network (phone restart stopped working on android 6)
I've since switch rom entirely on my phone
[QUOTE=Levelog;49333830]Every couple days my iMac has a popup in the corner asking me to download El Capitan and won't go away until I dismiss it.[/QUOTE]
Yet they don't force you to download it, and you can tell it "no thanks" instead of "later", and it's not going to install itself without your permission at any point
still annoying, but not straight-up invasive
[QUOTE=J!NX;49334981]
XP apologists still exist (for home PC's)
that's sad[/QUOTE]
Best thing I can think of about XP in this day of age
It's 500mb
fits on a cd if you don't have anything else
these days you surely should have enough storage for a 2GB operating system, both media and install drive
[QUOTE=J!NX;49334981]reasonable at least. older hardware may have issues.
I have a newer PC so that's probably where I differ
[editline]17th December 2015[/editline]
XP apologists still exist (for home PC's)
that's sad[/QUOTE]
It's sadder that there's actually people that defend terrible practices like these.
Let people update on their own accord.
I can't afford the risk of moving to Windows 10 due to the propitiatory programs on my system for work and so on. Small programs often rather old themselves made for custom hardware or products with very little support.
[QUOTE=Ehmmett;49334922]lol people still believe this
as well as posting on an android device
wowee man.[/QUOTE]
If Microsoft is capable of and intends to forcibly install "upgrades" on your PC then forcibly installing spyware and other crap isn't that far fetched.
The fact that they are so utterly desperately trying to get people to switch makes them look extremely shady already.
[QUOTE=Scratch.;49335027]Best thing I can think of about XP in this day of age
It's 500mb
fits on a cd if you don't have anything else
these days you surely should have enough storage for a 2GB operating system, both media and install drive[/QUOTE]
these days even a 1tb HDD is like, 50$, at least here, its pretty awsome really
[QUOTE=Doom64hunter;49335034]It's sadder that there's actually people that defend terrible practices like these.
Let people update on their own accord.[/QUOTE]
if you're using XP for commercial/program compatibility reasons it'd make sense
if you're using XP as a legitimate home PC and ignore the fact that it has huge security flaws you probably don't have any real reasons outside of artificial ones. Not that you shouldn't be required to update on your own, it's really up to you, but there are too many reasons not to use XP. You'd have to be an idiot to think it's ok to use an ancient OS like XP in 2015
[QUOTE=CoixNiro;49334618]Maybe because it's spyware?[/QUOTE]
Microsoft is only now starting to do what Google has been doing for years.
If you think Win10 is spyware, then your whole Android device is Big Brother incarnate.
If I knew for a fact updating to Windows 10 would magically just replace the OS and everything I had installed would just work, I would update right now.
Even if that was what the update process promised, I seriously doubt all of the developer tools I use would be flawlessly working on the other end of the update process, and I have neither the time nor energy to deal with fixing issues when the OS I have right now (8.1) works perfectly fine.
[QUOTE=proch;49334974]XP still is better than vista[/QUOTE]
Well, it was. Now Vista is better, and has been for a while.
It's all moot point, though, since 7 is better than Vista, 8.1 than 7, and 10 than 8.1
I don't think I've had any issues with a single game or program or driver or anything I've used since starting, except LGS uses the win8 optimization causing a few weird things to happen but that's because they can't program for shit
[QUOTE=DaMastez;49335078]If I knew for a fact updating to Windows 10 would magically just replace the OS and everything I had installed would just work, I would update right now.
Even if that was what the update process promised, I seriously doubt all of the developer tools I use would be flawlessly working on the other end of the update process, and I have neither the time nor energy to deal with fixing issues when the OS I have right now (8.1) works perfectly fine.[/QUOTE]
That's a fairly valid point but
What more of a guarantee do you want, it's the same guarantee as any other OS upgrade could offer you. What did you do when 8 came out? Or 7?
[QUOTE=Ehmmett;49333954]i cant believe there are people out there who still havent upgraded lol
why would you even[/QUOTE]
[URL="https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/P8Z68V_PRO/HelpDesk_Download/"]This is the driver page for my motherboard.[/URL] Notice how there are no Win10 drivers at all whatsoever.
There's a different version called the P8Z68-v PRO/GEN3, which came out less than a month after I bought this motherboard and [I]does[/I] have Win10 drivers.. Windows 10 thinks that this board and the GEN3 are exactly the same, when they are not. Thus, it installs the wrong drivers and fucking cripples my machine.
[QUOTE=LegndNikko;49335064]Microsoft is only now starting to do what Google has been doing for years.
If you think Win10 is spyware, then your whole Android device is Big Brother incarnate.[/QUOTE]
You mean the google data collection that can be switched off or is there something else?
[QUOTE=J!NX;49335084]I don't think I've had any issues with a single game or program or driver or anything I've used since starting, except LGS uses the win8 optimization causing a few weird things to happen but that's because they can't program for shit[/QUOTE]
had a problem with an a DJ control deck, they hadn't made a proper audio driver yet for windows 10 three months after public release (over a year in preview)
Returned it and payed up for a Traktor, was a gift anyway
Just checked and the driver released exactly a month ago, still a month too late for my case
Updates on W10 are rather annoying as well. The last major one randomly got rid of a few of my programs for "compatibility reasons", and yet I can still run them perfectly fine from the shortcut which now points to whatever folder Microsoft hid them in.
[QUOTE=dustyjo;49335089][URL="https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/P8Z68V_PRO/HelpDesk_Download/"]This is the driver page for my motherboard.[/URL] Notice how there are no Win10 drivers at all whatsoever.
[/QUOTE]
Disregarding the second part, use the 8.1 drivers, only issue you may encounter is if shit isn't signed, knowning asus it should be.
But what's your Hardware ID anyway?
[QUOTE=Scratch.;49335137]Disregarding the second part, use the 8.1 drivers, only issue you may encounter is if shit isn't signed, knowning asus it should be.
But what's your Hardware ID anyway?[/QUOTE]
Depending on a few factors, it very well may try to install the other drivers because his are "not the latest version," and then break itself. I've seen this repeatedly on laptops.
[QUOTE=Zephyrs;49335152]Depending on a few factors, it very well may try to install the other drivers because his are "not the latest version," and then break itself. I've seen this repeatedly on laptops.[/QUOTE]
I'm just looking at the update catalogue, good information here
if sources tell me right, and that you get promotion though updating shit (even if it's already perfect)
this is one of those things that really need an update
or not
don't fuck it up
[t]https://jii.moe/E1y6HwoBl.png[/t]
Upgraded to Win10 with my ASUS, really, no problem at all, shit is more enjoyable then 8.1
I don't have problems even with rendering software
I installed windows 10 once....
The brightness was stuck at max and i couldn't change it. The fullscreen start menu (My favorite feature about windows 8) was butchered; no more fun. The experience seemed weird so I just decided to go back to my comfort zone.
I'm def biased about this lol, I didn't give it a full go, only 30 mins of use, and they probably already patched the bugs.
[QUOTE=Scratch.;49335137]Disregarding the second part, use the 8.1 drivers, only issue you may encounter is if shit isn't signed, knowning asus it should be.
But what's your Hardware ID anyway?[/QUOTE]
For the USB2.0 device or what? If so: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_1C26&SUBSYS_844D1043&REV_05
Either way, whenever Windows 10 would install, it would get up to the "it's taking longer than usual" screen and just sit there for 6+ hours. Then it would restart, and I would have absolutely no input whatsoever. No USB devices would work, and the graphics were fucked up too. I've had to restore from backup both times I've tried because you can literally do nothing at all.
[QUOTE=111112oo;49335188]
The fullscreen start menu (My favorite feature about windows 8) was butchered; no more fun. The experience seemed weird so I just decided to go back to my comfort zone.
I'm def biased about this lol, I didn't give it a full go, only 30 mins of use, and they probably already patched the bugs.[/QUOTE]
[img]https://jii.moe/41x3KDorg.png[/img]
yeah it really shows how much you looked
[t]https://jii.moe/E1Kf9DiSl.png[/t]
[QUOTE=Levelog;49334641]Says the person posting from an android phone...[/QUOTE]
the first thing you did when first starting up your smartphone is to input your google account and synchronise contacts, lmao.
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