• Father proves he's a LAD by luring a suspected paedophile to a field and beating him to death
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[QUOTE=Monkah;47291331]Honestly, if this dude tried to rape my daughter, I'd do the exact same thing. Whether it's justice or not, I don't blame the father in the slightest.[/QUOTE] That's a different situation, if the guy was in the act of, then a little over aggression might be explained away as adrenaline, fear for your daughter and self defense for someone unable to defend themselves. But would you spend a couple months plotting the whole thing? If the answer is yes... well in my opinion that's concerning.
The father should be charged of course. He had a choice and he chose poorly. He could have called 911 (or his area's equivalent) and alerted police to a suspected paedophile and where they can find him. Basically catch him in the act to then face charges of his own. But now the father is likely to go to prison leaving his daughter to grow up without a dad. Most fathers claim they would beat a man to death for the same crime, but very few ever actually do it because they come to their senses and understand that there is nothing to gain from it.
lad points to that twat right there top geezah no doubt mans vexxed [editline]10th March 2015[/editline] [I]saaaaaafe mate[/I]
[QUOTE=CaptainObvious1;47291271]Nah, I'm just referring to his mentality at the time. Maybe it wasn't the way to go but some people handle situations differently compared to others. You must think that the world is perfect and that nothing bad is happening right? Like one of those delusional gals?[/QUOTE] Right, some people handle situations by luring problematic individuals into a secluded area and murdering them while they film it. People who solve problems that way tend to not be concerned parents and more often than not are psychopaths. The fact that this man talked to the pedophile for three months and planned out what he was going to do with him before taking him out to a secluded area to film the act of murdering another person should make it pretty damn clear that this is not a sane individual that just snapped when someone tried to chat with his daughter inappropriately.
unless this motherfucker is the incredible hulk I'm p. sure he was in full control of himself, his emotions, and his actions [editline]e[/editline] and how do you justify filming it anyway
1. This took place in Brazil. I wouldn't be surprised if the justice system in his area was unreliable. If this is correct, the family's safety could be in jeopardy. 2. I doubt it was an intentional murder, otherwise he likely wouldn't have filmed it (and thus incriminated himself) [QUOTE=wauterboi;47291332]My first instinct would be to get him away from the daughter. Afterwards I would report him. I don't see the point in using violence on someone who isn't bringing immediate violence back. You don't blame him for killing someone? You really should think about that.[/QUOTE] Yes, Wauterboi. Tell me how level-headed you'd be when you find out that someone was planning on abducting, raping, and possibly murdering your eleven year old child. /s
[QUOTE=Monkah;47291377]Yes, Wauterboi. Tell me how level-headed you'd be when you find out that someone was planning on abducting, raping, and possibly murdering your eleven year old child. /s[/QUOTE] Over three months? Normal person = pretty level headed. Person with issues = doesn't have the capability to re-level head.
[QUOTE=Monkah;47291377]1. This took place in Brazil. I wouldn't be surprised if the justice system in his area was unreliable. If this is correct, the family's safety could be in jeopardy. 2. I doubt it was an intentional murder, otherwise he likely wouldn't have filmed it (and thus incriminated himself) Yes, Wauterboi. Tell me how level-headed you'd be when you find out that someone was planning on abducting, raping, and possibly murdering your eleven year old child. /s[/QUOTE] I don't understand why you're defending a murderer.
[QUOTE=gerbe1;47291380]Over three months? Normal person = pretty level headed. Person with issues = doesn't have the capability to re-level head.[/QUOTE] The daughter was texting the rapist for three months, first of all. [QUOTE]an 11-year-old girl the man allegedly tried to groom using messaging service Whatsapp over three months.[/QUOTE] For all we know, it could have been the day of the meeting [QUOTE=Swebonny;47291390]I don't understand why you're defending a murderer.[/QUOTE] Because not everything is black and white in life. Someone having killed another is not a reason to pin him to the cross immediately. There are various details we're currently unaware of, and I think a lot of people here are exaggerating how cool they would be when they found out their daughter was [I]x [/I]days away from possibly being raped/abducted/murdered.
[QUOTE=Monkah;47291397]The daughter was texting the rapist for three months, first of all. For all we know, it could have been the day of the meeting[/QUOTE] Still don't believe that a sane person would "snap" for long enough to organise this.
[QUOTE=Monkah;47291397]The daughter was texting the rapist for three months, first of all. For all we know, it could have been the day of the meeting[/QUOTE] except that the very next sentence states that he was talking to her father the entire time
[QUOTE=Monkah;47291397]The daughter was texting the rapist for three months, first of all. For all we know, it could have been the day of the meeting Because not everything is black and white in life. Someone having killed another is not a reason to pin him to the cross immediately. There are various details we're currently unaware of, and I think a lot of people here are exaggerating how cool they would be when they found out their daughter was [I]x [/I]days away from possibly being raped/abducted/murdered.[/QUOTE] But.. a man lost his life. He could have been judged by people who are capable to do so. You're as wrong as a pedophile when you kill him.
[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;47291414]except that the very next sentence states that he was talking to her father the entire time[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]But the 23-year-old, from the state of Goias in Brazil, didn't realise he had been talking to the girl's father.[/QUOTE] For the entire duration? Doubtful. I doubt someone goes on the internet, says "im going to make a profile under my daughter's name!" and then kills a dude. I'm willing to bet that he was talking to the girl's pop for the last few days or so. And yes, it's my belief that completely ruining an eleven year old girl's life (and possibly attempting to take it) is [B]far[/B] worse than what the father did.
[QUOTE=Monkah;47291397]The daughter was texting the rapist for three months, first of all. For all we know, it could have been the day of the meeting Because not everything is black and white in life. Someone having killed another is not a reason to pin him to the cross immediately. There are various details we're currently unaware of, and I think a lot of people here are exaggerating how cool they would be when they found out their daughter was [I]x [/I]days away from possibly being raped/abducted/murdered.[/QUOTE] That's amazing relief that feeling of discovering that. That's "thank god I found this information in time" that's "thank god my daughter is safe and sound here and nothing bad happened" That's not anger. Why would you be angry? Your daughter is safe. And the guy is a phone call away from jail. Haven't you ever seen a parent find a lost child? It's not about who or why or how, it's about thank god my child is ok. Plus it doesn't matter about where this was, because the publisher of the story was in a country with a proper police force and the article says nothing about the police being unreliable.
[QUOTE=Monkah;47291397] Because not everything is black and white in life. Someone having killed another is not a reason to pin him to the cross immediately. There are various details we're currently unaware of, and I think a lot of people here are exaggerating how cool they would be when they found out their daughter was [I]x [/I]days away from possibly being raped/abducted/murdered.[/QUOTE] Dood, the father beat a man to death in a field for texting his daughter. This is clear fucking cut that the man is fucking insane. A rational man would either just take his daughters cell phone away, report the man to the police, or delete his daughters account on whatsapp. Your logic is fucking garbage. By your logic, for all we know this guy was just a good Samaritan and wanted to help the girl with her homework.
Glad to see the OP hasn't seen archer's warning about phrasing Nobody's right here, even if someone's a pediphile its still premeditated murder to lure them to a place and kill them
Seriously what the fuck is wrong with this website when you have to explain to a person why its wrong to beat a man to death in a field and record it. What the fuck is wrong with you people.
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[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;47291438]By your logic, for all we know this guy was just a good Samaritan and wanted to help the girl with her homework.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]The 23-year-old man had been messaging the girl for several months on Whatsapp and sent her explicit pictures.[/QUOTE] unless they were studying human anatomy
last bit was referencing people talking about brazil haha automerge
For three months both men faked their identity, planned to meet each other, and intended to do harm to each other. The Paedophile was the only one who didn't know he wasn't talking to who he thought he was. Upon meeting, both men had been fully committed to doing harm to the person on the other end of the text messages and one of the men took the other mans life, while sadistically recording it for a confession. To say the father was in his right mind begs to question if you are in your right mind. You don't plan a murder for 3 months. No sane person does that.
[QUOTE=Monkah;47291445]unless they were studying human anatomy[/QUOTE] Your logic is still shit and it still doesn't justify beating a man to death. Keep trying bud. I mean you don't know what were in those explicit photos. What if it was just funny meme pictures with profanity in them? What if what if what if what if what if
[QUOTE=Monkah;47291397] Because not everything is black and white in life. Someone having killed another is not a reason to pin him to the cross immediately. There are various details we're currently unaware of, and I think a lot of people here are exaggerating how cool they would be when they found out their daughter was [I]x [/I]days away from possibly being raped/abducted/murdered.[/QUOTE] No amount of detail will prevent the fact that a man murdered another man in cold blood. You're bringing up a lot of "what ifs" which are completely irrelevant to this discussion.
[QUOTE=Monkah;47291429]And yes, it's my belief that completely ruining an eleven year old girl's life (and possibly attempting to take it) is [B]far[/B] worse than what the father did.[/QUOTE] Better by comparison doesn't mean good, still killed a man as he was begging for his life
Wow, does anyone have sauce on uncensored video?
[QUOTE=Swebonny;47291463]No amount of detail will prevent the fact that a man murdered another man in cold blood. You're bringing up a lot of "what ifs" which are completely irrelevant to this discussion.[/QUOTE]Isn't that what we said about Martin? And Brown? I think that by jumping to conclusions that the murder was intentional and that the attack lacked ulterior reasoning, we're not going to be getting much done. I'd wait until an official police statement before pointing fingers everywhere.
[QUOTE=Monkah;47291429]And yes, it's my belief that completely ruining an eleven year old girl's life (and possibly attempting to take it) is [B]far[/B] worse than what the father did.[/QUOTE] Except he never would have had that chance anyway because the father was already aware of him. [editline]10th March 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Monkah;47291495]Isn't that what we said about Martin? And Brown? I think that by jumping to conclusions that the murder was intentional and that the attack lacked ulterior reasoning, we're not going to be getting much done. I'd wait until an official police statement before pointing fingers everywhere.[/QUOTE] None of those had camera evidence.
[QUOTE=Monkah;47291495]Isn't that what we said about Martin? And Brown? I think that by jumping to conclusions that the murder was intentional and that the attack lacked ulterior reasoning, we're not going to be getting much done. I'd wait until an official police statement before pointing fingers everywhere.[/QUOTE] It literally does not matter one fucking bit whether or not the father intended to kill the man. He still took him out to a field and beat him to death there. Martin and Brown cases aren't even comparable because they're completely different situations. Fucking George Zimmerman didn't lure Trayvon into a field and shoot him to death and record it.
Okay, this is very clearly going in circles, so I'll say this; Premeditated murder is illegal. It is illegal for a [I]reason. Because it is extremely wrong.[/I] According to the info available this man: * Encountered someone online that intended to molest his daughter. * Did NOT contact any form of law enforcement of any kind. * Did NOT plan to contact law enforcement. * Specifically planned in advance, for 3 months, to meet with this person, to beat/murder him. * Lured them to a meeting in a secluded area to commit it. * Brought a video camera with him to record the action. * Committed the act without a second thought. * Posted the video of it online. [I]There is no justification.[/I] He murdered someone, in cold blood, planned in advance. It does not matter how he felt, it does not matter if it was an accident, all you're doing is trying to excuse [B][I][U]cold blooded premeditated murder.[/U][/I][/B] He is a murderer, and was arrested as such. And if you somehow fail to understand that this was a 3 month duration, I recommend sharpening your reading skills. I suggest Julius Caesar. It's a great read, all about how you are punished for committing pre-meditated murder even if you think you have a super good reason for it.
[QUOTE=Monkah;47291429]And yes, it's my belief that completely ruining an eleven year old girl's life (and possibly attempting to take it) is [B]far[/B] worse than what the father did.[/QUOTE] you mean going to prison for most of her childhood and probably making her feel responsible for her dad becoming a violent murderer, or maybe even for the murder itself, all while far too young to fully understand it all? this is perhaps the single most psychologically scarring thing he could have possibly done in this situation short of physically having her there while he did it, and she may or may not eventually see the footage (the footage of her dad bludgeoning a guy to death) anyway
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