Father proves he's a LAD by luring a suspected paedophile to a field and beating him to death
225 replies, posted
[QUOTE=CaptainObvious1;47291168]"If someone has a different opinion to me, then you're wrong"
no
Free speech on SH everyone![/QUOTE]
I didn't know the rules gave you a right to free speech.
Fuck, you're in the UK, you can't even say that it's in your laws.
You know what's worse? This dad isn't a trained dude. He could have been the one killed, and then her daughter could have ended up abused. He should have got someone who's job is to put an end to trouble before it becomes bigger problem, like the police.
[editline]9th March 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=Monkah;47291377]1. This took place in Brazil. I wouldn't be surprised if the justice system in his area was unreliable. If this is correct, the family's safety could be in jeopardy.
2. I doubt it was an intentional murder, otherwise he likely wouldn't have filmed it (and thus incriminated himself)
Yes, Wauterboi. Tell me how level-headed you'd be when you find out that someone was planning on abducting, raping, and possibly murdering your eleven year old child. /s[/QUOTE]
I definitely would want someone to help then because I would more than likely have a ridiculous panic attack. I wouldn't invite him to my house.
[QUOTE=Monkah;47291397]The daughter was texting the rapist for three months, first of all.
For all we know, it could have been the day of the meeting
Because not everything is black and white in life. Someone having killed another is not a reason to pin him to the cross immediately. There are various details we're currently unaware of, and I think a lot of people here are exaggerating how cool they would be when they found out their daughter was [I]x [/I]days away from possibly being raped/abducted/murdered.[/QUOTE]
Isn't this technically first degree murder though? He planned out the whole thing and ended up killing a person.
I'm not sure where the gray area is in that.
[QUOTE=Paramud;47291124]Would someone mind explaining what an LAD is supposed to be[/QUOTE]
it's a sort of weird generic wide spanning term for someone who does something pretty lucky or have cause for applaud and reception of "lad points"; pretty vague but like:
"john winched 6 girls last night and came back with two, top lad"
"drank 2 bottles of buckfast and didn't even spew (and they will genuinely say "hashtag" ) #lad"
on topic though, guy's a fucking psycho, and should not be glorified. Other guy was a creepy bastard, but he did nothing that remotely justified premeditated murder in cold blood
[QUOTE=CaptainObvious1;47291168]"If someone has a different opinion to me, then you're wrong"
no
Free speech on SH everyone![/QUOTE]
i think you're having a hard time understanding the distinction between disallowed from having an opinion and being called an asshole for having that opinion
the opinion that you are an asshole is also an opinion
[QUOTE=ImperialGuard;47291721]I didn't know the rules gave you a right to free speech.
Fuck, you're in the UK, you can't even say that it's in your laws.[/QUOTE]
Might be in the Constitution but you have less freedom of speech than we do.
Good, one less pedophile who are into real child porn and drawn child porn [for example, lolicon] in the world, who can be upset about that.
[QUOTE=AlexConnor;47292271]Might be in the Constitution but you have less freedom of speech than we do.[/QUOTE]
Lol in the UK you can face criminal charges for racist statements. Go on.
I 50% condone the father's actions to the extent of beating him,murder would be a different story. He still should have contacted the law.
[QUOTE=FLIPPY;47292446]I 50% condone the father's actions to the extent of beating him,murder would be a different story. He still should have contacted the law.[/QUOTE]
What does beating him do? It's not constructive.
[QUOTE=CaptainObvious1;47291168]"If someone has a different opinion to me, then you're wrong"
no
Free speech on SH everyone![/QUOTE]
You know, it's free speech to tell you you are wrong.
[QUOTE=wauterboi;47292576]What does beating him do? It's not constructive.[/QUOTE]
Let me rephrase: This guy lured a dude to a meet-up to beat the shit out of him. How is this good?
[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;47291573]Okay, this is very clearly going in circles, so I'll say this;
Premeditated murder is illegal. It is illegal for a [I]reason. Because it is extremely wrong.[/I] According to the info available this man:
* Encountered someone online that intended to molest his daughter.
* Did NOT contact any form of law enforcement of any kind.
* Did NOT plan to contact law enforcement.
* Specifically planned in advance, for 3 months, to meet with this person, to beat/murder him.
* Lured them to a meeting in a secluded area to commit it.
* Brought a video camera with him to record the action.
* Committed the act without a second thought.
* Posted the video of it online.
[I]There is no justification.[/I] He murdered someone, in cold blood, planned in advance. [B][I][U]It does not matter how he felt, it does not matter if it was an accident[/U][/I][/B], all you're doing is trying to excuse [B][I][U]cold blooded premeditated murder.[/U][/I][/B] He is a murderer, and was arrested as such.
And if you somehow fail to understand that this was a 3 month duration, I recommend sharpening your reading skills. I suggest Julius Caesar. It's a great read, all about how you are punished for committing pre-meditated murder even if you think you have a super good reason for it.[/QUOTE]
Actually, it completely does matter 100%.
Brazilian murder conviction is 3-20 years, but has various stipulations:
[QUOTE]Penalties for intentional murder may be reduced by the judge by one sixth to one third, if it was committed for reason of relevant social or moral motivation, or under violent emotion, caused by unjust provocation of the victim.
Penalties for unintentional homicide can be not applied, at the judge's criterion, if the consequences of the crime affect the agent so strongly that the penal sanction reveals unnecessary.[/QUOTE]
You're acting as if he intended on murdering the guy. From the evidence in the video, we can only draw the conclusion that he intended on beating the guy and humiliating him. We can also conclude that his emotions may have gotten the best of him, causing him to continue when he should have stopped. Even in the U.S., this would be considered involuntary manslaughter or heat of the moment instead of murder, and even the crappiest of lawyers could defend him from a murder charge. You need to do some research.
Who are we to judge?
[QUOTE=Jame's;47292760]Who are we to judge?[/QUOTE]
Welp, I guess this guy settled it. Thread's over everyone. Nothing to discuss here.
[QUOTE=wauterboi;47292712]Let me rephrase: This guy lured a dude to a meet-up to beat the shit out of him. How is this good?[/QUOTE]
I'll answer that boy. It's cus so the pedophiles won't have to hurt kids by getting the twisted ideas from watching loli or real child porn.
[QUOTE=RichyZ;47292840]theres this thing called the police
they're those guys you call when you have suspicions about a criminal in the area[/QUOTE]
No fuck the police they do fuck all. They won't even kill the pedophiles cus these police are soft anyway.
[QUOTE=Ulfric546;47292847]No fuck the police they do fuck all. They won't kill the pedophiles cus they're soft anyway.[/QUOTE]
I bet you're one of those people who listen to the lyrics of "fuck the police" and be like "this is so true, the words have MEANING, they speak to my feelings!"
[QUOTE=ChronoBlade;47292852]I bet you're one of those people who listen to the lyrics of "fuck the police" and be like "this is so true, the words have MEANING, they speak to my feelings!"[/QUOTE]
Stop defending pedophiles and stop sucking the police cocks already I'm 100% serious boy.
[QUOTE=Ulfric546;47292867]Stop defending pedophiles and stop sucking the police cocks already I'm 100% serious boy.[/QUOTE]
What do you have against sucking cocks?
[QUOTE=wauterboi;47292871]What do you have against sucking cocks?[/QUOTE]
I think you miss read the post I made boy so re-read it again.
[QUOTE=Ulfric546;47292867]stop sucking the police cocks already I'm 100% serious boy.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Ulfric546;47292889]I think you miss read the post I made boy so re-read it again.
[quote]stop sucking the police cocks already I'm 100% serious boy.[/quote][/QUOTE]
What are you gonna do? Make another alt 'cause you aren't getting in on all the inside-Facepunch police XXX action? The scandal is bigger than you think, man. We're all in on it. (especially BDA)
I cba to read through 3 pages of flame so I just skimmed through it, but this is what I gathered from it:
If a paedophile plans to rape your daughter, the right course of action is to mash his face in but *just* a little bit.
Doing God's work
Another scumbag removed.
[QUOTE=AlexConnor;47292271]Might be in the Constitution but you have less freedom of speech than we do.[/QUOTE]
lmfao you're an absolute fool if you honestly believe that. The only thing you can get arrested for saying in the US is threats and inciting panic. On your side of the pond, hate speech and racism can get you convicted. You don't have freedom of speech bud, you live in a nanny state.
[QUOTE=CaptainObvious1;47291168]"If someone has a different opinion to me, then you're wrong"
no
Free speech on SH everyone![/QUOTE]
Freedom of speech, not freedom from consequence.
Also holy fuck is it just me or are there even more edgelords than usual defending murder? Seek professional help, seriously.
[QUOTE=meatwad253;47291485]Wow, does anyone have sauce on uncensored video?[/QUOTE]
[url]http://m.liveleak.com/view?i=71b_1425656071[/url]
Really did laugh pretty good though at the end of the video when the pedo whined like a little bitch.
I'm generally a big supporter of capital punishment, but this is just fucking stupid because he hasn't done anything other than text her yet
Guy's a psycho, recording it so everyone can see his 'glory' is more than proof of that
the justice system in just about every country does virtually nothing about pedophiles
in america it's 1-5 for illicit conduct with a minor with most getting plea deals for 1 1/2 - 2 years (usually equates to about a year)
repeat offenses only increase the sentence by a year or two, until they hit 5 offenses, then they get a decade
it's time for some fucking street justice
my father was sent to prison for 5 years for beating a man with a wrench (long complicated story, don't cheat on your spouse)
his defense attorney told him he would've gotten less time if he raped someone
let that spin in your little naive noggins
Just throwing this out there but im willing to bet pretty much everyone who says "oh yeah good job on killing him another scumbag gone from the earth" sort of shit would also argue that ISIS killing non Muslims is wrong.
To them its the right thing to do and to them non Muslims are "the scum gone from the earth".
You need to step back and consider that just because this persons doing something wrong doesn't mean that he should just be put to death, what gives someone the right to do that?
Just because you believe in something doesn't mean you get a free pass to do whatever you want which is exactly why you would argue against what ISIS is doing, yet you would hypocritically argue that this was right.
And before any of you tits says otherwise no, im not defending pedophiles, what they do negatively impacts the life of someone else who can't, at their age, do anything to prevent that so someone else has to do it for them. But you do it in a way that doesn't end up keeping a negative impact, ie - losing their father to the prison system.
[editline]10th March 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=SickJits;47293151]the justice system in just about every country does virtually nothing about pedophiles
in america it's 1-5 for illicit conduct with a minor with most getting plea deals for 1 1/2 - 2 years (usually equates to about a year)
repeat offenses only increase the sentence by a year or two, until they hit 5 offenses, then they get a decade
it's time for some fucking street justice
my father was sent to prison for 5 years for beating a man with a wrench (long complicated story, don't cheat on your spouse)
his defense attorney told him he would've gotten less time if he raped someone
let that spin in your little naive noggins[/QUOTE]
Majority of states in america are minimum 10 years for rape from what I read?
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