• Father proves he's a LAD by luring a suspected paedophile to a field and beating him to death
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[QUOTE=wauterboi;47300562]As stated before, I am a defender of pedophiles so long as they are trying to receive help, are not trying to start relationships with children, and aren't performing any crimes. I'm not going to defend this guy's actions because he crossed that line, but at the same time he didn't deserve to die like the way he did.[/QUOTE] this is a bizarre concept to me, but okay i guess. Pedophilia is pretty much a thought crime here in the uk.
[QUOTE=OutspokenGolf;47300698]this is a bizarre concept to me, but okay i guess. Pedophilia is pretty much a thought crime here in the uk.[/QUOTE] That's the thing - and I don't want to venture too far off-topic with this - but if someone came down with cancer, people would feel bad. If someone comes down with schizophrenia, people feel far, far less bad. And then pedophilia? People are quick to hate without empathy, and no one's offering help. What happens when you push people at the fringes of society with hatred, discrimination, and a lack of means to get out of the rut they're stuck in? They usually live a life of depression, and at worst, commit suicide ("I'm this way because it's my fault"), their mental state spirals far past the point of no return or they turn on society ("This world never gave me a chance"). The guy who beat this dude to death is a nut and I would argue he's completely responsible for this, but if we could figure out how to help pedophiles deal with their problems, maybe the entirety of this situation wouldn't have occurred. It is weird, and I'm totally understanding of the boldness of saying I'm empathetic with pedophiles, but people have to drop their emotions and see things for what they really are. Until we grow up and stop focusing on the shock and digust associated with pedophiles, we have to accept a certain level of responsibility for the grime that our society produces.
Don't really give a shit what most of you fucks have to say I support the dad, you don't fuck with family. [editline]11th March 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Delta616;47298359] What if the dead guy had a [b]metal[/b] disorder, what if he didn't deserve to die? We don't fucking know that[/QUOTE] idgaf if he's allergic to metal the moment he started luring someone elses little girl into sexual activity is the moment I stopped giving a fuck what happened to him to be honest, mental disorder or not you don't do that shit without heavy repercussions, a predator is a predator, animal or person; if they're a threat to you and your family you're gonna do whatever you have to. fuck em.
[QUOTE=RichyZ;47300779]uh id call the cops????????[/QUOTE] nah im not saying i wouldnt call the cops im saying i really dont give a shit what happened to the guy luring an 11 year old child should i
[QUOTE=Arc Nova;47300767]Don't really give a shit what most of you fucks have to say I support the dad, you don't fuck with family.[/QUOTE] You love your family so much that you would remove yourself from reality, lure a pedophiles to your house, beat them to death, live a life in prison where you can't see your family again, and traumatize your child who is now both fatherless and the daughter of a psycho murderer? There has to be some point where this whole "DON'T FUX WIT DA FAMILY" and emotional turmoil becomes insane, and I think you've hit it dude. Anything that isn't cutting off contact with the dude and contacting the authorities is more than likely going to be an insane move.
[QUOTE=wauterboi;47300794]You love your family so much that you would remove yourself from reality, lure a pedophiles to your house, beat them to death, live a life in prison where you can't see your family again, and traumatize your child who is now both fatherless and the daughter of a psycho murderer? There has to be some point where this whole "DON'T FUX WIT DA FAMILY" and emotional turmoil becomes insane, and I think you've hit it dude. Anything that isn't cutting off contact with the dude and contacting the authorities is more than likely going to be an insane move.[/QUOTE] I'm not saying I would do it, I just can understand why he did it. im saying i have no sympathy for the sick fuck. he clearly didn't give a shit until he got his repercussions from the father. You think I hit that threshold just because I really don't care some scumbag getting beaten to death? Because clearly thats on the same level as [I]actually[/I] beating someone to death right not to mention you probably wouldn't be thinking exactly 100% sane when some fuckhead is trying to rape your daughter.
[QUOTE=Arc Nova;47300799]I'm not saying I would do it, im saying i have no sympathy for the sick fuck. he clearly didn't give a shit until he got his repercussions not to mention you probably wouldn't be thinking exactly 100% sane when some fuckhead is trying to rape your daughter.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=wauterboi;47291794]I definitely would want [the police] to help then because I would more than likely have a ridiculous panic attack. I wouldn't invite him to my house.[/QUOTE] If you're at the point where you can't think clearly, you need to either calm yourself down or move the decision-making to someone who's in a better state of mind. A disturbed person could have made a change in his life, and instead his life was taken away. Your actions should have repercussions, but there's very little you can do to completely invalidate your worth as a human being and your merit to a life.
[QUOTE=Paramud;47291124]Would someone mind explaining what an LAD is supposed to be[/QUOTE] Large Assault Dad.
[QUOTE=wauterboi;47300810]If you're at the point where you can't think clearly, you need to either calm yourself down or move the decision-making to someone who's in a better state of mind. A disturbed person could have made a change in his life, and instead his life was taken away. Your actions should have repercussions, but there's very little you can do to completely invalidate your worth as a human being and your merit to a life.[/QUOTE] obviously thats the solution, but like i said in these situations you aren't thinking exactly clear. imagine yourself waking up one day and discover some pedophile is hounding your daughter, i hardly doubt you'd be thinking clear. honestly there is nothing that could make me feel sympathy for this guy, he got exactly what he deserved when he went after someone else's daughter.
I can totally understand the anger and stuff associated with rape, albeit downscaled. I learned a lot about a really close high-school friend and her entire life-long situation - stuff like that pumps you full of disgust, anger, and makes you ill to your stomach. The idea that you aren't in your right mind is something I can understand, and I'm friends and family with tons of rape victims and their parents. (which is weird now that I think about it) The part I cannot relate to is when the problem arises - it's a fresh problem that has many different solutions. He came up with a plan to meet up with the guy and beat the shit out of him, and that anger brewed inside of him to the point that he killed the guy. The fact that he chose a bad solution from the very beginning and at no point stopped is where his fault is. He followed through over a considerable amount of time. He had many other ways of dealing with this creep instead of doing what he did, which is why I have no sympathy for the father. I don't have a lot of sympathy for the pedophile either because, like I said, his intentions were in no way good. However, I'm trying to highlight that the beating and especially the murder was totally unneeded and uncalled for. And of course, I do have an interest to understand what brought that man to that point, but with the information provided my sympathy is based solely within the fact that he was killed and he could have had the rest of his life to make changes and live a happy rest of his life.
[QUOTE=wauterboi;47300814]I can totally relate to the anger involved with rape, as I've learned a lot about a really important person in my life that made me sick to my stomach and furious. Those emotions are normal, and I can understand going as far as to punch the dude in the face. I just don't think the guy should have died, nor should he have been pummeled to death, nor should he have been lured by someone who pretty much brought the entire situation up from the very start. [/QUOTE] then we agree, just on different stances. these types of stories get to me on a personal level. I agree he didn't need to die from this but i can 100% understand how we ended up here
I could probably say I have the same interest in figuring out what was going through the father's mind to get him to the point of beating someone to death. While not everyone starts out at a baseline of sanity, what with nature vs. nurture, but for the most part people start out as human beings and get pushed to do crazy stuff. Perhaps he was pushed too far from an emotional upbringing or something along those lines? Maybe [I]he[/I] snapped? I don't know. I guess in that way, I could say I feel some sympathy for him, but with both people my sympathy lies within the formation of their mental state. PEOPLE ARE WEIRD MAN.
[QUOTE=wauterboi;47300814] I'm trying to highlight that the beating and especially the murder was totally unneeded and uncalled for. And of course, I do have an interest to understand what brought that man to that point, but with the information provided my sympathy is based solely within the fact that he was killed and he could have had the rest of his life to make changes and live a happy rest of his life.[/QUOTE] Exactly man, that's pretty much what I'm trying to get at. It could have been handled a better way for everyone involved but I can totally understand how it got to this point when emotions were high
[QUOTE=Arc Nova;47300767]Don't really give a shit what most of you fucks have to say I support the dad, you don't fuck with family. [editline]11th March 2015[/editline][/QUOTE] So you think murder is good? Kind of psycho huh
[QUOTE=gastyne;47300938]So you think murder is good? Kind of psycho huh[/QUOTE] Nope but if you would refer to my previous post you would know that already but nice try. I don't necessarily agree with with the outcome but I can 100% understand how it came to be.
Sorry I didn't read that when I posted that.
[QUOTE=gastyne;47300961]Sorry I didn't read that when I posted that.[/QUOTE] Nah it's cool, that first post I made reads pretty much like typical edgy bullshit you'd see in these threads, should've worded it better at the start.
[QUOTE=Arc Nova;47301027]Nah it's cool, that first post I made reads pretty much like typical edgy bullshit you'd see in these threads, should've worded it better at the start.[/QUOTE] It could be worse. I can't count how many times someone on Facepunch has said something along the lines of, "Hey, I'd totally fuck that guy up, man. And if you won't then you're a pussy!" But yeah, at first it sounded like you were really dismissive but I get it now.
Where is the fucking NSFW tag.
[QUOTE=Delta616;47294320]Says the one who censored it? [/QUOTE] It was censored in the article posted in the OP.
[QUOTE=Delta616;47298359]You're sick. [editline]10th March 2015[/editline] The murder may "justified" but that doesn't make it okay. Did that piece of shit deserve to die? Maybe, but that doesn't make it okay, especially if you're gonna record it and put it on the internet. What if the dead guy had a metal disorder, what if he didn't deserve to die? We don't fucking know that[/QUOTE] Never said recording it doesn't make the person a psychopath, perhaps he did go to far, but pedophiles do not deserve to live. I don't care how they die. [editline]11th March 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=geel9;47298276]You are a cancer on society.[/QUOTE] No the cancer is people who think that people who intend to harm a defenseless child has the right to live. I guess you should just let the pedophile right in your home.
[QUOTE=FLIPPY;47302156]Never said recording it doesn't make the person a psychopath, perhaps he did go to far, but pedophiles do not deserve to live. I don't care how they die. [editline]11th March 2015[/editline] No the cancer is people who think that people who intend to harm a defenseless child has the right to live. I guess you should just let the pedophile right in your home.[/QUOTE] I'd say the person that ends lives is worse than the one that ruins them.
[QUOTE=deadoon;47302253]I'd say the person that ends lives is worse than the one that ruins them.[/QUOTE] A dead pedophile is better than a dead kid.
[QUOTE=FLIPPY;47302266]A dead pedophile is better than a dead kid.[/QUOTE] Which is irrelevant to what I just said.
[QUOTE=deadoon;47302274]Which is irrelevant to what I just said.[/QUOTE] No, it's pretty relevant. If the pedophile did manage to get the young girl instead of the other way around, then there is a high change she would be dead.
[QUOTE=FLIPPY;47302309]No, it's pretty relevant. If the pedophile did manage to get the young girl instead of the other way around, then there is a high change she would be dead.[/QUOTE] It is however I had specifically stated: [QUOTE=deadoon;47302253]I'd say the person that ends lives is worse than the one that ruins them.[/QUOTE] You are interjecting your own words into that making it so both sides are "the person that ends lives".
[QUOTE=CaptainObvious1;47291119]Alright then, let's say you were the father. What would you have done? And be honest about it.[/QUOTE] I'd have called the police because I'm a reasonable, well-adjusted human, not a crazed vigilante.
[QUOTE=FLIPPY;47302266]A dead pedophile is better than a dead kid.[/QUOTE] Not if the kid is the new hitler. Wait, you're sayin a life is more valuable than another ? You're acting like hitler.
[QUOTE=FLIPPY;47302156]Never said recording it doesn't make the person a psychopath, perhaps he did go to far, but pedophiles do not deserve to live. I don't care how they die. [editline]11th March 2015[/editline] No the cancer is people who think that people who intend to harm a defenseless child has the right to live. I guess you should just let the pedophile right in your home.[/QUOTE] Seems like your problem lies more with pedosexuals than with pedophiles (and rightfully so). However, saying that all pedophiles don't deserve to live is a different story altogether. It's not like a person willfully chooses to be attracted to children, especially seeing as an astounding amount of people have the same mentality as you where they consider pedophiles to be subhuman whether they act on their urges or not. Now don't get me wrong, what pedosexuals do is wrong and despicable, but those people have made their choice and they have chosen poorly. This does NOT mean you can go around advocating a mentality that prefers any pedophile be shot instantly for being the way they are. Pedosexuals and pedophiles are something different altogether, with pedosexuals on one end of the spectrum, which includes the people that have chosen for a complete disregard for the destruction of lives they may cause, and on the other side you have pedophiles who do not act on their urges, and are mostly people that often hate themselves for the fact that their brains function in this way. Combine this with the fact that the stigma you are perpetuating leaves them afraid of seeking help for this unwanted mental condition, and I can't help but feel sorry for these people. Sure, being attracted to children is wrong, but don't you think they know that and that they'd rather function like normal, accepted people in this society?
[QUOTE=Bokito;47302672]Seems like your problem lies more with pedosexuals than with pedophiles (and rightfully so). However, saying that all pedophiles don't deserve to live is a different story altogether. It's not like a person willfully chooses to be attracted to children, especially seeing as an astounding amount of people have the same mentality as you where they consider pedophiles to be subhuman whether they act on their urges or not. Now don't get me wrong, what pedosexuals do is wrong and despicable, but those people have made their choice and they have chosen poorly. This does NOT mean you can go around advocating a mentality that prefers any pedophile be shot instantly for being the way they are. Pedosexuals and pedophiles are something different altogether, with pedosexuals on one end of the spectrum, which includes the people that have chosen for a complete disregard for the destruction of lives they may cause, and on the other side you have pedophiles who do not act on their urges, and are mostly people that often hate themselves for the fact that their brains function in this way. Combine this with the fact that the stigma you are perpetuating leaves them afraid of seeking help for this unwanted mental condition, and I can't help but feel sorry for these people. Sure, being attracted to children is wrong, but don't you think they know that and that they'd rather function like normal, accepted people in this society?[/QUOTE] Well let me specify this, I mean any pedophile that intends and actively harms children for their gain. Having thoughts is fine.
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