White House to fight for National Day of Prayer - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Canesfan;21529504]Nothing about the separation of Church and State ever says anything about the government being unable to recognize religion. I'm glad they're fighting for it. I'm sure it'll negatively affect sooooo many people.[/QUOTE] cannot inhibit or advance advance this is sponsoring the presence of religion as a national holiday

[QUOTE=Gmod_Fan77;21529139]If the government makes all holidays entirely secular, they're being biased to Atheists, thus making things inequal.[/QUOTE] i love this false dichotomy if they're not supporting religion, they're favoring atheism :hurr:

He's trying to appeal to everyone. Listen, if you don't like it, how does it affect you anyway? This way, he can score some more votes and stay in office next term, so he can continue to do more good. [editline]03:51AM[/editline] [QUOTE=PrismatexV8;21529546]i love this false dichotomy if they're not supporting religion, they're favoring atheism :hurr:[/QUOTE] Or, they support all of them and favor nobody that way.

Needs more antidisestablishmentarianism

[QUOTE=lulzbocks;21529596]He's trying to appeal to everyone. Listen, if you don't like it, how does it affect you anyway? This way, he can score some more votes and stay in office next term, so he can continue to do more good.[/QUOTE] As if he's doing much good right now. Honestly, the country was founded on the principle of keeping government and religion away from each other; their funds and their practices were never meant to intertwine, and government's only role in the matter was to protect the individual's right to practice religion freely. In my opinion, government didn't need to be caught up in this; let people decide if they want their own day of prayer. Because now Christians are going to want more, other religions are going to demand, and non-religious and Atheist individuals will be wondering what's going on with their calendar. It's all about precedent.

[QUOTE=nERVEcenter;21529735]In my opinion, government didn't need to be caught up in this; let people decide if they want their own day of prayer. Because now Christians are going to want more, other religions are going to demand, and non-religious and Atheist individuals will be wondering what's going on with their calendar. It's all about precedent.[/QUOTE] I guess when you put it that way, it makes more sense. Hm. Why's he doing this then?

[QUOTE=lulzbocks;21529844]I guess when you put it that way, it makes more sense. Hm. Why's he doing this then?[/QUOTE] To win votes on the right. But I sit on the right myself. The pundits will catch on to this and spin this, believe me. They're not exactly stupid.

[QUOTE=Daolpu;21528712]Well a lot of things back religion that the government does, you know, like the Pledge of Allegiance and money? It's just nonspecific. It says "in God we Trust". Though on second thought, plenty of religions don't have a god. Welp I dunno v:v:v[/QUOTE] How about they do what they're suppose to do and stay separate from that shiz.

A prayer day, ok? Why does anyone really care that much, it's not like people are FORCING you to go to church and pray all day.

[QUOTE=Protocol7;21528499]separation of church and state... it shouldn't legally have been passed anyway[/QUOTE] ITT: Sore atheists are forcing others to be open minded. Ignorance is amusing. This holiday isn't forcing anyone to believe anything. Hindus are represented as equally as Christians, and to declare the national day of prayer unconstitutional would also be to deem Christmas unconstitutional. Christmas isn't forced on anyone either, and I dare say it's presence as a widely-recognized holiday is more invasive. But nobody wants to toss Christmas out.

[QUOTE=evilweazel;21530019]A prayer day, ok? Why does anyone really care that much, it's not like people are FORCING you to go to church and pray all day.[/QUOTE] It offers precedent for the future generations of religious fanatics against secularism.

[QUOTE=Billiam;21530035]It offers precedent for the future generations of religious fanatics against secularism.[/QUOTE] I doubt one day a year for prayer is going to cause that much trouble.

[QUOTE=evilweazel;21530019]A prayer day, ok? Why does anyone really care that much, it's not like people are FORCING you to go to church and pray all day.[/QUOTE] It's more of a Constitutional and "Why even have it" thing.

I don't really care, it's not like people are being forced to pray.

[QUOTE=evilweazel;21530069]I doubt one day a year for prayer is going to cause that much trouble.[/QUOTE] It can when it's sponsored by the government.

[QUOTE=Billiam;21530095]It can when it's sponsored by the government.[/QUOTE] Only because of butthurt atheists. This law doesn't affect them in any way.

[QUOTE=evilweazel;21530069]I doubt one day a year for prayer is going to cause that much trouble.[/QUOTE] Why not convert it to a logical and scientific day? [QUOTE=DamagePoint;21530109]Only because of butthurt atheists. This law doesn't affect them in any way.[/QUOTE] "If they're on your side, they're butthurt!"

[QUOTE=davidofmk771;21530127]Why not convert it to a logical and scientific day?[/QUOTE] Why not have both?

[QUOTE=evilweazel;21530135]Why not have both?[/QUOTE] Because advocating religion does nothing, and advocating logic helps us.

[QUOTE=DamagePoint;21530109]Only because of butthurt atheists. This law doesn't affect them in any way.[/QUOTE] yeah, because the only opponents of this HAVE to be atheists. [editline]06:27PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Jenkem;21530034]ITT: Sore atheists are forcing others to be open minded. Ignorance is amusing. This holiday isn't forcing anyone to believe anything. Hindus are represented as equally as Christians, and to declare the national day of prayer unconstitutional would also be to deem Christmas unconstitutional. Christmas isn't forced on anyone either, and I dare say it's presence as a widely-recognized holiday is more invasive. But nobody wants to toss Christmas out.[/QUOTE] lol there are so many things wrong with this post.. do you even have a brain in between your ears?

[QUOTE=Daolpu;21528712]Well a lot of things back religion that the government does, you know, like [b]the Pledge of Allegiance and money[/b]? It's just nonspecific. It says "in God we Trust". Though on second thought, plenty of religions don't have a god. Welp I dunno v:v:v[/QUOTE] I know in the pledge the god part was instituted to separate us from those atheist commies in the USSR, during the 50s. And no, it isn't constitutional either, and too should be removed.

[QUOTE=Jenkem;21530034]ITT: Sore atheists are forcing others to be open minded. Ignorance is amusing. This holiday isn't forcing anyone to believe anything. Hindus are represented as equally as Christians, and to declare the national day of prayer unconstitutional would also be to deem Christmas unconstitutional. Christmas isn't forced on anyone either, and I dare say it's presence as a widely-recognized holiday is more invasive. But nobody wants to toss Christmas out.[/QUOTE] Um, the mere fact that they're acknowledging spiritualism or theism violates secularism. Also Christmas effects most of the US population seriously unlike this holiday.

[QUOTE=evilweazel;21530069]I doubt one day a year for prayer is going to cause that much trouble.[/QUOTE] Do you understand what the word precedent means?

[QUOTE=davidofmk771;21530158]Because advocating religion does nothing, and advocating logic helps us.[/QUOTE] Advocating Religion shows people to be tolerant which will make for a better Country, having a logic day will teach people and also make the country better. I say have both.

[QUOTE=davidofmk771;21530158]Because advocating religion does nothing, and advocating logic helps us.[/QUOTE] That's an opinion.

[url]http://www.theskepticsguide.org/resources/logicalfallacies.aspx[/url] Just to make sure, please click on and read everything in this link. [QUOTE=evilweazel;21530211]Advocating Religion shows people to be tolerant which will make for a better Country, having a logic day will teach people and also make the country better. I say have both.[/QUOTE] But why not make a tolerance day? [QUOTE=lulzbocks;21530216]That's an opinion.[/QUOTE] Tell me one scientifically proven way praying helps humanity.

State and church are suposed to stay separated for a reason.

[QUOTE=evilweazel;21530211]Advocating Religion shows people to be tolerant which will make for a better Country, having a logic day will teach people and also make the country better. I say have both.[/QUOTE] Yeah this. It advocated for freedom of religion, and lack thereof.

It looks like he's just trying to appeal to evangelicals.

[QUOTE=evilweazel;21530211][b]Advocating Religion shows people to be tolerant which will make for a better Country[/b], having a logic day will teach people and also make the country better. I say have both.[/QUOTE] There are so many things wrong with this statement. First, religion is obviously NOT tolerant. Second, you have absolutely zero fucking evidence. Third, my first point is a clear counter-example to your little hypothesis.