TV as Thin as a Sheet of Paper? Printable Flexible Electronics Just Became Easier With Stable Electr
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[QUOTE=LegndNikko;35646782]Wouldn't a tablet with an RSS feed from, say, CNN give the same effect?[/QUOTE]Yeah except cheaper to buy + actual pages.
Gotta love flippin' dem pages.
I love living in the future!
Wall paper TV's, it's be like total recall with the tv windows.
120hz motion enhanced televisions are garbage. makes everything look cheap. i really hope the trend of faster and faster refresh rates dies off (just like 3d has [I]again![/I]) but the thinner and thinner thing keeps going. it'd own to have a [B]structurally sound[/B] television that I could just hard tak to my wall, lol
[QUOTE=Legend286;35647555]He means 24fps.[/QUOTE]
the joke
your head
[QUOTE=BrickInHead;35648932]120hz motion enhanced televisions are garbage. [B]makes everything look cheap[/B]. i really hope the trend of faster and faster refresh rates dies off (just like 3d has [I]again![/I]) but the thinner and thinner thing keeps going. it'd own to have a structurally sound television that I could just hard tak to my wall, lol[/QUOTE]
Makes everything look exactly the opposite.
[QUOTE=sltungle;35645634]This is slightly off topic, but a lot of the new TV technology is annoying me. Most specifically the TVs with insanely high frame rates (which use interpolated frames that don't actually exist as 'in between' frames for the real ones). They're so crisp that it's... unrealistic? It's incredibly offputting. If I rapidly turn my head from side to side in reality things aren't 100% clear, shit blurs together; but with new TVs if you're playing a game and spin your character around in circles everything's like... 100% perfectly crisp and clear - there's no motion blur. It's fucking weird.
I saw some football game on a 240Hz TV at a tech store a while back and it looked like everything was in fast motion.
However I'm perfectly fine with paper thin TVs - they'd be so easy to wall-mount without feeling uneasy about possible falls.[/QUOTE]
It's because we're all used to 24 Frames per second movies on our TVs. Now we can see them how they're supposed to be seen! Mmmm Perfection. It's nice to have the Live action playing at the same framerate as the shitty CGI playing with it
Nice to see this stuff again. . . Saw it back in 2007 for the first time.
Seems like they've made massive progress on this.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcAm3KihFho&feature=player_embedded[/media]
[QUOTE=BrickInHead;35648932]120hz motion enhanced televisions are garbage. makes everything look cheap. i really hope the trend of faster and faster refresh rates dies off (just like 3d has [I]again![/I]) but the thinner and thinner thing keeps going. it'd own to have a [B]structurally sound[/B] television that I could just hard tak to my wall, lol[/QUOTE]
So would you rather your TVs run at 60Hz and get telecine judder any time the camera is panning? They do 120Hz for a reason, no pulldown.
[QUOTE=Pace.;35645610]i want a bendable tv[/QUOTE]
Wouldn't you prefer the way it looks rather than it's malleability?
I remember about ten years ago my teacher told me this would eventually happen, TV's getting so thin they bend like paper.
[QUOTE=sltungle;35645634]This is slightly off topic, but a lot of the new TV technology is annoying me. Most specifically the TVs with insanely high frame rates (which use interpolated frames that don't actually exist as 'in between' frames for the real ones). They're so crisp that it's... unrealistic? It's incredibly offputting. If I rapidly turn my head from side to side in reality things aren't 100% clear, shit blurs together; but with new TVs if you're playing a game and spin your character around in circles everything's like... 100% perfectly crisp and clear - there's no motion blur. It's fucking weird.
I saw some football game on a 240Hz TV at a tech store a while back and it looked like everything was in fast motion.
However I'm perfectly fine with paper thin TVs - they'd be so easy to wall-mount without feeling uneasy about possible falls.[/QUOTE]
Your eyes will adjust after long enough time to it but I agree, it's annoying as hell at first.
This actually kinda sounds like the TV walls from Fahrenheit 451 ( [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fahrenheit_451[/url] )
every newspaper could have this bar code which you scan with your paper tv and it plays a video from a certain article
or gives a selection of videos
[QUOTE=BrickInHead;35648932]120hz motion enhanced televisions are garbage. makes everything look cheap. i really hope the trend of faster and faster refresh rates dies off (just like 3d has [I]again![/I]) but the thinner and thinner thing keeps going. it'd own to have a [B]structurally sound[/B] television that I could just hard tak to my wall, lol[/QUOTE]
I have one of these '120hz motion enhanced televisions' and it makes everything look infinitely better without losing the traditional motion blur you see. It makes action scenes seem much more fluid and helps negate the god awful jerking and low fps that my xbox seems to be cursed with. I'd not swap back to a regular 60hz tv after having had mine. And in case you are watching something that may look better without the sleeker motion you can simply disable it anyway (I find that things like football matches look better in normal mode, but everything else is certainly better in 120hz mode)
higher the refresh rate the better
stop living in the past and learn to adapt
I want to bend it around my willy
[QUOTE=farmatyr;35647576]Who even uses built in TV speakers anymore? In my opinion they should be removed completely on the high end products.[/QUOTE]
My family is poor and we only have one of those fat CRT TVs.
[QUOTE=Derp Y. Mail;35659771]My family is poor and we only have one of those fat CRT TVs.[/QUOTE]
Where did I mention CRT TV's?
[QUOTE=Odellus;35658522]higher the refresh rate the better
stop living in the past and learn to adapt[/QUOTE]
A higher refresh rate is rather unnecessary, and is practically unnoticeable unless the human eye can see things faster than the approximate 60FPS.
Anyone else think these frickin'-frackin' TVs would break even more easily than a plasma screen TV? Especially with kids? Or incompetent Wii players?
I knew something like this would be made when I was a kid. This was almost the exact the same thing I imagined as a kid except it had a touch screen and a touch keyboard along with it. Basically a reusable piece of electronic paper.
[QUOTE=sltungle;35645634]This is slightly off topic, but a lot of the new TV technology is annoying me. Most specifically the TVs with insanely high frame rates (which use interpolated frames that don't actually exist as 'in between' frames for the real ones). They're so crisp that it's... unrealistic? It's incredibly offputting. If I rapidly turn my head from side to side in reality things aren't 100% clear, shit blurs together; but with new TVs if you're playing a game and spin your character around in circles everything's like... 100% perfectly crisp and clear - there's no motion blur. It's fucking weird.
I saw some football game on a 240Hz TV at a tech store a while back and it looked like everything was in fast motion.
However I'm perfectly fine with paper thin TVs - they'd be so easy to wall-mount without feeling uneasy about possible falls.[/QUOTE]
if people recorded at that fps it wouldn't be noticeable or bother you
[QUOTE=garrynohome;35651298]So would you rather your TVs run at 60Hz and get telecine judder any time the camera is panning? They do 120Hz for a reason, no pulldown.[/QUOTE]
you realize '120hz' tvs are 60hz tvs with crappy frame blending, right? I don't mind frame blending, but the TVs never have sufficient processing power to do it without jitter during scene changes.
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[QUOTE=Stonecycle;35668703]A higher refresh rate is rather unnecessary, and is practically unnoticeable unless the human eye can see things faster than the approximate 60FPS.
Anyone else think these frickin'-frackin' TVs would break even more easily than a plasma screen TV? Especially with kids? Or incompetent Wii players?[/QUOTE]
good thing we can easily see more than 60fps
[video=youtube;Q_qscdL-qwI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_qscdL-qwI[/video]
The Nokia Morph is almost real
I'd love a tablet like that, only if it was more comfortable
[QUOTE=NightmareXx;35669085]if people recorded at that fps it wouldn't be noticeable or bother you[/QUOTE]
Yeah, this is basically the issue I think. The problem is interpolated frames. If TV shows were aired at, or movies were recorded at 120 or 240 fps then they'd probably look perfectly fine on a TV with a 120 Hz or 240 Hz refresh rate.
Then again, I'm still not sure why it makes some video games look fake. Is there some limit on the output signal rate on consoles?
[QUOTE=ZombieDawgs;35648510]Some random chick-flic that was on TV felt like they were using a green-screen, is the effect you're describing because it messes with my eyes too.[/QUOTE]
See it only messes with my eyes if they don't do a good job with it. And even then, in some cases when I know for a FACT that it's green screen (in-car scenes, WLIIA-US "Green Screen" game, etc) it can still bug me just a little.
What if it rips?
[QUOTE=sltungle;35672785]Yeah, this is basically the issue I think. The problem is interpolated frames. If TV shows were aired at, or movies were recorded at 120 or 240 fps then they'd probably look perfectly fine on a TV with a 120 Hz or 240 Hz refresh rate.
Then again, I'm still not sure why it makes some video games look fake. Is there some limit on the output signal rate on consoles?[/QUOTE]
Video games on consoles especially are usually limited to a max of 60 FPS, but will usually run at something under that (with a desired minimum being around 30FPS). The limits are artificial in certain games, but stop the game from using too much processing power so that the console can still load content and function. But in some games they hit these limits because the hardware is limited.
60 is the max you'll normally see because that is an average refresh rate I'd expect. So the console can vSync the output. So on most high refresh rate TVs you're having anywhere between 1 to 8 frames being pulled out of nowhere.
I am [B]loving[/B] this generation.
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