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Of course, some "instructions" are too vague not to generate a myriad of interpretations, but some of them are quite direct: [b]kill the infidels, always put women in the 2nd place in society, practice polygamy and so on.[/b]
If you're a Muslim and allow or [b]encourage non-believers to blaspheme, for example (maybe you're protecting their freedom of speech), you're sinning. This is what the book says.[/b][/QUOTE]
ive never read that in the quran would you kindly tell me in what aya it is and in what chapter?
also the instructions are vague because the prophet Muhammad is suppose to teach it to you like how to pray or how to respect other religion and stuff like that
the people who fully follow the quran without knowing the prophet muhammad teachings are not the real muslims
[QUOTE=SCopE5000;40640943]This.
As humans we're becoming increasingly technologically sophisticated, there is simply no place for shitty beliefs anymore - they simply impede progress and contribute to hostility.
Christianity was the majority belief held in the time of Galileo Galilei - who discovered, by looking through a telescope, that the world was round and orbited the sun.
What did the believers do? Told him to shut the fuck up and stop going against their beliefs - they told him that if he didn't shut the fuck up, they'd hurt him and destroy his work.
He was condemned by the Catholic Church for 'vehement suspicion of heresy'.
So, he did shut up (to an extent) and their lies persevered for another 100 years or so, before the truth that Galileo had discovered became accepted.
How anyone even respects the church after the thousands of years of similar incidences to the one above (involving, say, witches) I have no fucking idea.[/QUOTE]
Galileo shat the bed when he deliberately tried to piss off the biggest supporter he had for his current theories (the fucking pope) and was put under house arrest. Nobody gave a fuck when Copernicus first said the sun orbits the earth. EDIT: I MEAN EARTH ORBITS THE SUN WHOOPS I NEED TO SLEEP MORE :v:
Giordano Bruno is a way better example, given that he was burnt at the stake.
Bruno was the one who got burned, Galileo barely saved his head back then at the trial. They started harassing him 16 years later tho and made him "confess" that all he said was a lie.
[QUOTE=redBadger;40616913]how the fuck is having four adult male muslim witness a fair way to charge someone for murder? let alone having the rapist confess?[/QUOTE]
i wold just kill that fucker
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How anyone even respects the church after the thousands of years of similar incidences to the one above (involving, say, witches) I have no fucking idea.[/QUOTE]
it's pretty simple. people respect church because the general consensus is that the church is respectable. you point out that the bible is inaccurate, you get told that it doesn't matter because it makes people feel better. you point out that this justification is voided by the fact that the false happiness people derive from religion comes at the cost of immeasurable pain for others, and you get told something along the lines of ''I know plenty of christians that aren't homophobes''. and as you can see in this thread, when you point at that these people are not true followers of the religion, you get told to ''get the hell out of your bubble''. I will never understand why people are so quick to forgive the infinite atrocities of religion. there are less destructive ways to fill an empty life.
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