Google Glass wearer interrogated by police inside AMC movie theater for movie piracy
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[QUOTE=tirpider;43627052]Ignoring me like you did.
Did I offer violence?[/QUOTE]
[quote]A camera hanging on the wall is one thing, but an individual pointing one at you after being asked not to is akin to the "I'm not touching you" game. You deserve what you get at that point. (imo)[/quote]
[quote]You deserve what you get at that point. (imo)[/quote]
That's not inferring anything untoward or violent at all!
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;43627061]Its pretty obvious that you're implying that violence would be ok to use against such people. Police Brutality that is.[/QUOTE]
That's closer to what I was thinking.
But bringing police in doesn't mean violence. That would be between whoever and the police.
Is it really necessary to antagonize someone over your want to use a gadget though?
Piracy is a serious issue in america, first piracy leads to using marijuana, then it leads to marajuanacane production and distribution.
The final step on the road to piracy is full blown terrorism.
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yeah, dumb.
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I don't get why folks are so defensive about their right to jam a camera in someone's face.
It's like they imagine they are some kind of reporter or paparazzi when they are just inconsiderate and rude.
(better than dumb this time?)
[QUOTE=Falubii;43624641]lol do they really think they can stop this from happening. Once devices like this become mainstream it will be impossible.[/QUOTE]
Have filters or encoding on the projection that distorts the image on digital camera recordings.
Bright IR bulbs around and behind the screen to blind the cameras.
Can't think of other things.
Regardless of recording it or not, it's fucking ridicolous any sort of law enforcement had to show up and detain the guy for hours like he was a fucking terrorist. Corporation's interests are priority, as usual.
[QUOTE=The Un-Men;43627272]Regardless of recording it or not, it's fucking ridicolous any sort of law enforcement had to show up and detain the guy for hours like he was a fucking terrorist. Corporation's interests are priority, as usual.[/QUOTE]
Best part is, why didn't they just ask to see if he had any recordings of the movie on it? The guy was innocent, so I'm sure he was more than willing to show it. The solution was literally plug it into a computer, and boom, no recordings of the movie found. But hold on a second, that might require us to slow down, not use the jump-to-conclusions mat, and be adults about the situation for ten seconds.
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[QUOTE=Demache;43627390]Best part is, why didn't they just ask to see if he had any recordings of the movie on it? The guy was innocent, so I'm sure he was more than willing to show it. The solution was literally plug it into a computer, and boom, no recordings of the movie found. But hold on a second, that might require us to slow down, not use the jump-to-conclusions mat, and be adults about the situation for ten seconds.[/QUOTE]You could always stream it so it doesn't appear on local storage.
[quote]What followed was over an hour of the “feds” telling me I am not under arrest, and that this is a “voluntary interview”, but if I choose not to cooperate bad things may happen to me.[/quote]
Oh wow.
Also [url=http://the-gadgeteer.com/2014/01/20/amc-movie-theater-calls-fbi-to-arrest-a-google-glass-user/]better article[/url]
Imo this is a gross waste of resources better used on far more important things, especially with devices like this becoming a norm. What are they going to do when Google does that Google Contact Lens thing they were talking about? Get a team of FBI agents and SWAT to hold me down and pry it off of my eye? Not only that, they also interrupted the movie for other people with nary an apology let along a refund/free screening.
Then eventually we'll get to the point where people can get replacement eyes (If they loose their normal ones) with the equivalent of Google glass and woopity do we'll have people getting detained and having their eyes ripped out.
Sounds like it would make for a heluva lot more interesting articles though.
[QUOTE=Boaraes;43626619]If that woman had a problem with a camera pointed at her then she should never go to any public place ever because there are cameras everywhere.[/QUOTE]
I don't know man, it's kind of different having some random dude with a camera in your face than a CCTV on the wall in the mall.
Remember, Big Brother still loves you no matter what.
[QUOTE=Bradyns;43624843]These will be coming out with prescription lenses.. and I will raise hell if I am asked to remove them.
I have had glasses since I was 2, and need lenses grounded 8x.[/QUOTE]
If you decide to combine what amounts to recording hardware with your vision correction, and you go somewhere where recording is not permitted and unwelcome, you can't expect to get a free pass just because you don't have conventional vision correction. If you don't want to be asked to take them off, use a normal pair of glasses, or better yet, have a normal pair of glasses as a backup with you. If you go into a private business they have a reasonable expectation of privacy and every right to ask you to either take them off or leave.
Considering how many people here freak out over 'Big Brother' I can't for the life of me understand why you're all so gung ho about taking recording devices into private settings.
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;43629769]I don't know man, it's kind of different having some random dude with a camera in your face than a CCTV on the wall in the mall.[/QUOTE]
Not at all.
[QUOTE=mysteryman;43625443]It's a violation of the code of conduct. You can wear them, just not inside the theatre. If you have a problem with simply taking them off then by all means you don't have to go to that movie theatre.
Working at a movie theatre we take any sort of potential piracy seriously, even if you have your phone out and the camera app open and someone notices we'll keep an eye on you usually from projection and usually call the police. I myself had to on a few occasions watch people from projection in suspicion of piracy. It runs rampant and our theatre is a popular theatre for piracy so we catch people quite often. It's nice because if i'm the one to report it i get a $500 reward.
But getting back to the topic at hand, it's a recording device and against policy to have it on. Why do you even need it on when watching a movie in the first place?
[editline]21st January 2014[/editline]
Regardless if you record more than a few seconds it's violating most movie piracy laws.[/QUOTE]
Or ya know, Google Glass might also be their prescription glasses in which case chances are they only have one pair so making them take them off renders them unable to watch the movie that they paid good money for.
I guess we could expect an exponential growth of prescription Google glasses on nude beaches and similar places...
[QUOTE=Sinbues;43630234]Not at all.[/QUOTE]
Actually it kind of is.
Isn't there a light on the device if it's recording to stop secretly recording other people?
[QUOTE=Sinbues;43630234]Not at all.[/QUOTE]
A CCTV on the wall in a store isn't going to upload a video of you to Youtube to publicly mock you, or record every detail of a conversation, or personally identify you and watch for blackmail material.
It really shouldn't be hard for Facepunchers who freak out over surveillance states to understand why most people don't like a camera in their face.
[QUOTE=chunkymonkey;43630287]Or ya know, Google Glass might also be their prescription glasses in which case chances are they only have one pair so making them take them off renders them unable to watch the movie that they paid good money for.[/QUOTE]
So if the cane my grandpa uses [url=http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m87kubNxgC1r9khx4o1_1280.jpg]is a shotgun[/url], I guess he should be able to take it everywhere without restriction because he needs the cane, and it's totally not his fault that he chose to combine an essential item (his cane) with a non-essential item (a shotgun)?
If a business doesn't want you bringing recording hardware on their premises, they have every right to ask you to take them off or leave. You don't get a free pass if [i]you[/i] decided to combine your prescription glasses with a camera.
[QUOTE=catbarf;43630356]
So if the cane my grandpa uses [url=http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m87kubNxgC1r9khx4o1_1280.jpg]is a shotgun[/url], I guess he should be able to take it everywhere without restriction because he needs the cane, and it's totally not his fault that he chose to combine an essential item (his cane) with a non-essential item (a shotgun)?[/QUOTE]
A shotgun cane is absolutely essential. I mean, if you're ambushed in the city by a bear because he thinks you're unarmed, you can just shotguncane his face off and continue about your business.
[QUOTE=JoonazL;43630343]Isn't there a light on the device if it's recording to stop secretly recording other people?[/QUOTE]
Kind of irrelevant when it's impossible to actually stop a person from recording without entering some sort of verbal/physical argument.
[QUOTE=catbarf;43630356]
So if the cane my grandpa uses [URL="http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m87kubNxgC1r9khx4o1_1280.jpg"]is a shotgun[/URL], I guess he should be able to take it everywhere without restriction because he needs the cane, and it's totally not his fault that he chose to combine an essential item (his cane) with a non-essential item (a shotgun)?
If a business doesn't want you bringing recording hardware on their premises, they have every right to ask you to take them off or leave. You don't get a free pass if [I]you[/I] decided to combine your prescription glasses with a camera.[/QUOTE]
comparing google glasses to a cane shotgun is completely valid and totally shows the validity of your argument.
I salute your superior debating
In case you're too dense to realize it I was being sarcastic.
[QUOTE=catbarf;43630356]
So if the cane my grandpa uses [url=http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m87kubNxgC1r9khx4o1_1280.jpg]is a shotgun[/url], I guess he should be able to take it everywhere without restriction because he needs the cane, and it's totally not his fault that he chose to combine an essential item (his cane) with a non-essential item (a shotgun)?
If a business doesn't want you bringing recording hardware on their premises, they have every right to ask you to take them off or leave. You don't get a free pass if [i]you[/i] decided to combine your prescription glasses with a camera.[/QUOTE]
What kind of stupid ass comparison is this? You just compared prescription glasses, with Google Glass, to a concealed weapon.
Wow.
[QUOTE=JoonazL;43630343]Isn't there a light on the device if it's recording to stop secretly recording other people?[/QUOTE]
What's to stop someone from just taking a Sharpie to it if they're going to be secretly recording other people?
What if it's not secret? What if a belligerent customer wants to record a conversation with a store employee, then edit it and put it on the Internet to get the employee fired? Maybe there's some personal altercation, and a video doesn't capture the full story, and you get fired for something that happened over the weekend?
And hey, what about some measure of privacy, [I]especially[/I] in a private business like a movie theater or restaurant? I can't believe how close some of the posts in this thread are to 'if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear'. It's one thing to be talking about recording devices in public, just walking down the street, but as soon as you enter a private business you have no right to have recording equipment.
[QUOTE=Kyle902;43630413]comparing google glasses to a cane shotgun is completely valid and totally shows the validity of your argument.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=chunkymonkey;43630416]What kind of stupid ass comparison is this? You just compared prescription glasses, with Google Glass, to a concealed weapon.[/QUOTE]
Are you both just missing the point that both are examples of combining an essential day-to-day item with a completely unnecessary addition that may be unwelcome in private businesses? No shit they're different, but there is a parallel, and you have to be deliberately dense to ignore it. You choose to make Google Glass your prescription eyewear and not bring a set of regular glasses, so you can't expect everyone to allow you to use Glass in a private setting where recording hardware may be an issue.
no we wouldn't be dense because a shotgun and a fucking camera are two radically different things.
[QUOTE=Kyle902;43630459]no we wouldn't be dense because a shotgun and a fucking camera are two radically different things.[/QUOTE]
[quote] both are examples of combining an essential day-to-day item with a completely unnecessary addition that may be unwelcome in private businesses[/quote]
So yeah they're radically different except in the comparison that is actually relevant to this thread
Do you have an argument or are you just going to continue balking at it
[QUOTE=catbarf;43630467]So yeah they're radically different except in the comparison that is actually relevant to this thread
Do you have an argument or are you just going to continue balking at it[/QUOTE]
How about you use a comparison that ain't balls. We'd probably be more receptive to your "argument" if you did that.
[QUOTE=chunkymonkey;43630490]How about you use a comparison that ain't balls. We'd probably be more receptive to your "argument" if you did that.[/QUOTE]
How about pen lighters on airplanes? How about Swiss army knives? They have functions you may need for your day-to-day life, but also incorporate elements that may be unwelcome, and you don't get to say 'but I need [x]' to justify also having [y].
If a business doesn't allow recording hardware on their premises, it doesn't really matter what else you've stuck to the recording hardware.
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