Clinton: Half of Trump's Supporters are a "Basket of Deplorables"
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I'm going to miss all this year-and-a-half long drama a couple months from now.
[QUOTE=RIPBILLYMAYS;51029208]What's embarrassing is not the result of the democratic process, but that the situation that led up to it forced the result in the first place (Brexit/Trump).
In our case, the American political system has gotten so bad, and failed so many, that a loudmouthed celebrity steak salesman has become the best choice for fixing it.[/QUOTE]
There's nothing forcing those results at all? People have a choice, that's the entire point of democracy.
If they make a retarded choice, it's their own fault. If they had made the effort of informing themselves they would have realized it wasn't benefiting them.
The results [I]are[/I] embarrassing for those people.
The utterly baffling thing about Clinton's statement, is that four years ago, Romney's ''47% of the population shouldn't be able to vote anyway'' remark did sink his entire campaign right there, giving the Democrats and Obama a massive stick to beat Romney over the head with for the remainder of the election.
[media]https://twitter.com/BarackObama/status/248112876240379904[/media]
I guess Clinton has forgotten that already.
[QUOTE=King Tiger;51029274]That there isn't an obvious alliance between SJWs and global elites (Brexit completely proved this to be true)?[/QUOTE]
What the fuck.
[QUOTE=notlabbet;51027523]It's fucking crazy how divided this nation is. This is going to be a huge issue if something isn't done to stop the two party system.[/QUOTE]
That why I tried to make Hemlock Theory. Its an attempt.
[QUOTE=King Tiger;51029274]What exactly are you denying here? White working-class America hasn't been disregarded as a demographic? They aren't seen as a socially backwards and economically unproductive class of people? That there isn't an obvious alliance between SJWs and global elites (Brexit completely proved this to be true)? What part of this "conspiracy" is fabricated?[/QUOTE]
How did Brexit "Prove" that the SJW and "Global elites" are ruling your lives to make white people insignificant?
How did it do that at all
Damage Control:
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[B]"I regret saying half" [/B]- famous last words
Billy, it's sad what you choose to focus on.
I mean, that statement basically just says she was too generalistic, but it wasn't wrong.
[QUOTE=RIPBILLYMAYS;51027332]Its weird coming from Clinton though. Trump's supposed reason for his lack of a filter is that he doesnt have a political career to lose. I sort of understand why she is going this route, since this will probably be her last chance to run for office, but it almost looks like Clinton is playing on Trumps level now. Calling 1/2 of Trump supporters "deplorables" is basically alienating 20% of the US voter population.[/QUOTE]
They're not voting for her anyway, so I'd say it won't really affect her. Trump voters are generally the ones saying "the polls are a fabrication" and "government corruption is behind everything" and "[insert racism toward any race or middle-east nationality here]." Their views are so embedded in them that they're not going to vote Clinton no matter what she does.
[QUOTE=RIPBILLYMAYS;51029332]Damage Control:
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[B]"I regret saying half" [/B]- famous last words[/QUOTE]
With all the shit Trump has said over the past few months, it's rich calling 'I regret saying half' "famous last words."
For the record, she shouldn't have apologised. After all, the Trump supporters here day in and day out constantly prove her to be correct.
[QUOTE=King Tiger;51029274]What exactly are you denying here? White working-class America hasn't been disregarded as a demographic? They aren't seen as a socially backwards and economically unproductive class of people? That there isn't an obvious alliance between SJWs and global elites (Brexit completely proved this to be true)? What part of this "conspiracy" is fabricated?[/QUOTE]
You have no idea how :tinfoil: you sound. The only part of your post that makes any sense is the part where you mention that working class americans see themselves as disenfranchised by the current order of things. Despair drives people to vote for somebody they see as bringing a change, which in this case is Donald Trump, giving honeyed promises to the poor and desperate to garner their votes, while plugging a policy that'll leave them as impoverished than the poor in a developing nation such as mine.
And as for the part where you claim that there's an alliance between the SJWs and global elites, let me disabuse you of this notion: The global elite do not care one smidgen for those beneath them, and that includes the SJWs you claim are in cahoots with them. Their life is one of power, privilege, and moving pieces around on the board. They don't care for anybody not in the same social stratus, and in fact look down on those they see as nouveau riche or those far below them in terms of riches and wealth.
And if you think Brexit proved it to be true, please don't make me laugh. The campaigns on both sides were a joke and badly orchestrated, and leave itself was a tissue of [i]outright lies.[/i] Remember that 350 million they were talking about huh? what's that, if not an outright lie aimed at scaring people into voting for leaving the EU? and that's just one of many lies.
And let me tell you something: sometimes we do need experts to decide on certain matters, especially things we have no idea about. If you follow the same mindset as the asshole Michael Gove, who claimed the 'ordinary British public have had enough of experts' then you are nothing more than a menace to society, and anybody drumming this tune (that we don't need any experts) is an even bigger menace to society.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;51029331]How did Brexit "Prove" that the SJW and "Global elites" are ruling your lives to make white people insignificant?
How did it do that at all[/QUOTE]
"You're a racist dummy if you don't think a globalist organization should supersede your national identity and interests."
[QUOTE=gk99;51029342][B]They're not voting for her anyway,[/B] so I'd say it won't really affect her. Trump voters are generally the ones saying "the polls are a fabrication" and "government corruption is behind everything" and "[insert racism toward any race or middle-east nationality here]." Their views are so embedded in them that they're [B]not going to[/B] [B]vote Clinton no matter what she does.[/B][/QUOTE]
[media]https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/774673449885192192?lang=en[/media]
[QUOTE=King Tiger;51029362]"You're a racist dummy if you don't think a globalist organization should supersede your national identity and interests."[/QUOTE]
Where did I say that
how does brexit prove that
can you speak in sentences and not vague bullshit you think is clever or is that too hard?
[QUOTE=RIPBILLYMAYS;51029364][media]https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/774673449885192192?lang=en[/media][/QUOTE]
Not the fucking mexican, black, or asian ones
[QUOTE=RIPBILLYMAYS;51029332]Damage Control:
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[B]"I regret saying half" [/B]- famous last words[/QUOTE]
Lol she didn't even walk back a single part of what she said. What she said is that she "regrets" saying it. Yeah, what politician doesn't regret a gaffe? She still believes exactly what she said.
[QUOTE=King Tiger;51029369]Lol she didn't even walk back a single part of what she said. What she said is that she "regrets" saying it. Yeah, what politician doesn't regret a gaffe? She still believes exactly what she said.[/QUOTE]
And honestly, you're part of why she's right to ignore those people.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;51029367]Where did I say that
how does brexit prove that
can you speak in sentences and not vague bullshit you think is clever or is that too hard?[/QUOTE]
I wasn't quoting you, I was repeating a common line totted by the Remain camp.
[QUOTE=King Tiger;51029362]"You're a racist dummy if you don't think a globalist organization should supersede your national identity and interests."[/QUOTE]
You didn't answer his question and instead you tried to strawman.
No, seriously. Answer the question. How, in god's name, did Brexit prove that the SJWs and 'global elites' are ruling your lives to make white people insignificant. I mean, for fucks sake, most of the world's elite would be white.
You're not making much sense, and you're turning Brexit into an idiotic conspiracy. Here's a hint; if there really *was* a conspiracy, wouldn't the EU have ensured Brexit never happened? But guess what, it is happening.
[QUOTE=King Tiger;51029373]I wasn't quoting you, I was repeating a common line totted by the Remain camp.[/QUOTE]
Except they didn't, and that's a "common line" [B]you hyperbolicly rewrote to attack them[/B]
[editline]10th September 2016[/editline]
but god forbid, King Tiger, god fucking forbid, we act like adults and actually discuss the issues [B]before[/B] injecting our biases.
[QUOTE=bunguer;51029175]Which is rare coming from Hillary? Lying is rare for Hillary?[/QUOTE]
He said telling the truth is rare for Hillary.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;51029257]
If you think you're "Showing the man and stopping the status quo" you're just fucking wrong. Trump is the status quo as much as Hilary is.[/QUOTE]
The only way to upend the establishment and kick out the bourgeois globalists buying our politicians is to vote for the bourgeois himself :goodjob:
But no I'm sure he really cares about [U]you[/U], the white nationalist worker who is being oppressed by the SJW illuminati, and hasn't displayed a thorough lack of compassion and empathy throughout his entire career.
[QUOTE=RIPBILLYMAYS;51029161]
In Clinton's mind 20% of Americans aren't even American because they are ____.[/QUOTE]
No she said they weren't America.
[QUOTE=RIPBILLYMAYS;51029161]Nevermind that these American citizens have families, jobs, [B]follow American laws, practice American culture, and follow American traditions[/B], because they grew up and now live in the USA. [/QUOTE]
Bolded is questionable.
[QUOTE=RIPBILLYMAYS;51029161]She basically said she doesn't care about that 20% of Americans dont matter at all, [B]and that she puts [I]her voters[/I], not [I]the voters[/I], at the top of her priorities.[/B][/QUOTE]
Trump has done this his entire campaign only with much more vitriol so why don't you like it when Clinton does it.
[QUOTE=Thlis;51029065]It's alright when my team does it. It's a foul if your team does it.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=King Tiger;51029274]What exactly are you denying here? White working-class America hasn't been disregarded as a demographic? They aren't seen as a socially backwards and economically unproductive class of people? [/QUOTE]
I will deny both of these things.
[QUOTE=King Tiger;51029274]That there isn't an obvious alliance between SJWs and global elites (Brexit completely proved this to be true)? What part of this "conspiracy" is fabricated?[/QUOTE]
The alliance is because SJW's (what the fuck is an SJW in the context of Brexit?) tend to be leftists and globalism has become more embraced by the left in response to the right receding back into nationalism. It's not really a conspiracy or an alliance so much as two distinct groups agreeing that the EU was beneficial for the UK for wildly different reasons.
[QUOTE=_Axel;51029294]What the fuck.[/QUOTE]
SJWs are basically leftists whose message makes money and correlates with the vision elites themselves have for their own nations. It's no coincidence that while on one hand migrants solve labor shortages or tip the balance of the market in the employer's favor, they also provide a left leaning voting demographic for left wing parties that have been gutted of the historic post-war socialist-lite economic character by neoliberalism and have thus lost their own native working class vote.
It's little coincidence that blue labor, for example, said the class war was over and the issue was social exclusion. It's little coincidence that bernie declared that whites don't know poverty. This is the only space these people have left to agitate after the death of socialism, and it fundamentally doesn't change anything.
Being a SJW means retreating from economics into culture war to achieve ends, and this is a money making opportunity for obvious reasons. What marx saw in capitalism as a historically progressive force that erodes national borders and blurs cultural differences is the foundation for this alliance in an economically globalized world simultaneously griping with the legacy of the 20th century and its ideological battles.
[QUOTE=RIPBILLYMAYS;51029332]
[B]"I regret saying half" [/B]- famous last words[/QUOTE]
Apology didn't go far enough but I love seeing this from a Trump supporter.
[QUOTE=Conscript;51029397]SJWs are basically leftists whose message makes money and correlates with the vision elites themselves have for their own nations. It's no coincidence that while on one hand migrants solve labor shortages or tip the balance of the market in the employer's favor, they also provide a left leaning voting demographic for left wing parties that have been gutted of the historic post-war socialist-lite economic character by neoliberalism and have thus lost their own native working class vote.
It's little coincidence that blue labor, for example, said the class war was over and the issue was social exclusion. It's little coincidence that bernie declared that whites don't know poverty. This is the only space these people have left to agitate after the death of socialism, and it fundamentally doesn't change anything.
Being a SJW means retreating from economics into culture war to achieve ends, and this is a money making opportunity for obvious reasons. What marx saw in capitalism as a historically progressive force that erodes national borders and blurs cultural differences is the foundation for this alliance in an economically globalized world simultaneously griping with the legacy of the 20th century.[/QUOTE]
Oh buddy
is the real world ever going to hurt for you if you ever make it there
This election is a shouting contest now, this is just fucking embarrassing I am so sorry for you Americans right now
[QUOTE=Conscript;51029397]It's little coincidence that bernie declared that whites don't know poverty. [/QUOTE]
Things that didn't happen.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;51029403]Oh buddy
is the real world ever going to hurt for you if you ever make it there[/QUOTE]
I have a comfy IT job and a degree, I'm fine. It's the rest of my generation I'm concerned about, and you should feel the same
Besides tony 'social exclusion not class war' blair, we also have hillary 'will breaking up big banks end racism?' clinton. You really have to look no farther than the current state of the left to see there is an alliance of opportunity between social justice and the elite
Liberals taking the place of Marxists in the 60s has set the stage for this
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;51029378]Except they didn't, and that's a "common line" [B]you hyperbolicly rewrote to attack them[/B]
[editline]10th September 2016[/editline]
but god forbid, King Tiger, god fucking forbid, we act like adults and actually discuss the issues [B]before[/B] injecting our biases.[/QUOTE]
What constitutes a "common line" is up for debate but I know people personally (in the US, for what it's worth) who said to me, literally, that the Brexit campaign "was just a bunch of racists and idiots." That exact phrase was used. And if you followed the campaign for more than 2 minutes, you know that that sentiment was rife throughout the Remain side. Look up video of the protests held immediately after the vote and just listen to what these people were saying.
This isn't a "conspiracy," there's no smoke filled back room where the CEO of Goldman Sachs plots maliciously with Anita Sarkeesian about how they can destroy all white men muhahaha. It's an aligning of common interests that resulted in an ideological alliance. The result is that any expression of anti-globalist sentiment means you must be a racist or nationalist who just hates the outside world. Obviously I'm painting with broad strokes here.
[QUOTE=Conscript;51029413]I have a comfy IT job and a degree, I'm fine. It's the rest of my generation I'm concerned about, and you should feel the same[/QUOTE]
Save your concern for the misguided and desperate who're wanting to put an orange toupeed, thin skinned, bigoted man baby into the Oval Office.
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